I tried brainstorming a Lili/Titan deck, but I thought the deck lacks enough quality options in the 1-2 drop area, so I never bothered building a physical deck in BW. I'm running UB.
My previous three Liliana decks ran Smallpox. I think the card needs more enablers before it's ready for prime time. It also makes it really hard to get enough mana to cast your Titans.
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Sep 8, 2011Tobler posted a message on Tentative post-rotation build: BW ControlPosted in: Terrapin Guts Blog
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Sep 6, 2011Tobler posted a message on Tournament Report — Grand Prix PittsburghYour first paragraph sums up my feelings when I post to my blog.Posted in: Blog Flamingo
I was excited when your first list was Turbofog
I read/skimmed the whole thing.
I like tourney reports where mistakes are confessed. Confessions are entertaining to read and help build rapport. -
Sep 6, 2011Tobler posted a message on Testing the waters of Scars-ISD standardYeah, I should give him a shot. Solemn is one of the creatures I didn't bother to try yet. Azure Mage, on-color 6cc mythics, and maybe even Skaab Ruinator are other creatures I may try. There are only so many hours in a night and only so many woking brain cells at 4 am.Posted in: Tobler Blog
I've been burned by Smallpox in three different decks now, but I'm like a moth to flame with that card. The Ruinator makes me want to try again, and there will definitely be more stuff to tempt me back in the last 181 cards. -
Sep 6, 2011You're missing your 2 ragers, 1 Glissa, and 1 Sylvok in your deck list at the bottom. Check the spoilers for today. There's a 1UU 5/6 Pod target - Skaab Ruinator. I'd also give Reaper from the Abyss a chance to supplant one of the six drops, even though those three six-drops have been quite good to me in my Podding experience. Hollowhenge Scavenger is something I do not like unless you expect a lot of red burn in your Meta. Three Ragers sounds nice. That's exactly how many Sea Gate Oracles I'm losing at rotation. I've played a lot of Pod, and I wouldn't be able to bring myself to play no MB spot removal.Posted in: HandwrittenHero Blog
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When McArthur was down to six life, Tobler attacked for the kill. McArthur sacrificed his Resistance Fighter to prevent Morphling damage and Tobler did not realize he could spend a blue mana and make Morphling untargetable in response. This mistake did not help McArthur's game plan too much as he was too far behind already and Tobler won on the following turn."
Two mistakes for everyone to see...might as well just win anyway! (Lost the match, though)
I've forgotten more epic misplays than most people will ever make.
I've been ignoring this forum for a bit. I wasn't using any information I was getting here. So, I decide to check it out again today and I see your advice. I'd have to say it's pretty good because I kinda 'got there' before seeing it.
Re: lands
My mana base actually ended up at 4 Darkslick, 8 fetches, 2 Islands, 3 Swamps, and 6 Forests. If I put Ponder in, I'd probably run your exact recommendation.
Re: Image
I did cut a Myr for an Image. It's amazing.
Re: Frost Titan
I've run this guy a couple times now. I like him, but I'm not sure I like him enough. He may actually end up in the sideboard.
Re: Ponder vs. Removal
I want Ponder or See Beyond in the deck - even if it's just two or three copies, but I will not abandon spot removal. I can can see cutting up to two creatures - perhaps Skinrender and/or a Sylvan Ranger - and one Doom Blade for two or three Ponders or See Beyonds.
1 Underground Sea
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Polluted Delta
1 Darkwater Catacombs
1 Bayou
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Misty Rainforest
9 Island
8 Swamp
14 Forest
1 Eternal Witness
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 Sakashima the Impostor
1 Mystic Snake
1 Molder Slug
1 Azami, Lady of Scrolls
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Woodfall Primus
1 Utopia Sprawl
1 Wild Growth
1 Fertile Ground
1 Nature's Lore
1 Rampant Growth
1 Search for Tomorrow
1 Cultivate
1 Journey of Discovery
1 Skyshroud Claim
1 Time Warp
1 Walk the Aeons
1 Time Stretch
1 Spitting Image
1 Copy Enchantment
1 Desertion
1 Forbid
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Lilting Refrain
1 Seal of Removal
1 Seal of Doom
1 Seal of Primordium
1 Putrefy
1 Treachery
1 Capsize
1 Decree of Pain
1 Plague Wind
1 Titania's Song
1 Energy Flux
1 Steely Resolve
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Zombie Infestation
1 Cadaverous Bloom
1 Impulse
1 Abundance
1 Future Sight
1 Harmonize
1 Braingeyser
1 Mindspring
1 Stroke of Genius
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Brainspoil
1 Primal Command
1 Regrowth
1 All Sun's Dawn
1 Time Reversal
1 Sins of the Past
Molder Slug, Energy Flux, and Titania's Song - If I can get away without artifacts, why not punish others for running them? Energy Flux negates most artifact ramp and kills artifact-centric decks. Titania's Song usually means I get attacked by living Lightning Greaves and Sol Rings, but it shuts down so many scary things, like Tormod's Crypt.
Steely Resolve - It's a cheap, non-artifact way to give Gorgons shroud. I should probably also play Dense Foliage as it hurts many strategies (I'm looking at you, Uril) out there and helps Damia not die.
Lilting Refrain and the Seals - the fewer cards I want to hold in hand the better with Damia.
Cadaverous Bloom and Zombie Infestation - The infestation is a cheap way to maximize drawing with Damia. Cadaverous Bloom is just insane. It lets you cast Damia early with mana up for protection, and with Damia out, you ensure seven new cards a turn and every card you don't need makes GG or BB. Even without Damia, you can use it to cast a massive Stroke of Genius or any other draw X spell.
I got laughed at by the player I traded a Pirate Ship to for his Serendib Efreet back in 1994.
I rarely use it, but I think Mana Vortex is just a cool card.
I'll always have a soft spot for Flash, Morphling, and Thieving Magpie.
Before there was Thieving Magpie, there was Sea Sprite + Curiosity.
Oath of Scholars can be quite fun even though it's not exactly the good Oath.
Attunement helped my first Enchantress combo deck along very well. Come to think of it, I think I should throw that into my Damia commander deck...
Someone mentioned Time Elemental. While I don't use it anymore, I have a stack of them mostly because I'm a huge fan of Amy Weber's card art.
I have a a three phase plan from my first post in this thread.
1. Put him in a deck
2. ?
3. Profit!
You run him because he enables self-milling. I'll pray he puts the cards I need in my graveyard into my graveyard. Of course, I'd rather just copy him and activate the copy to ensure what I need in the graveyard gets there.
Why would I run Archon of justice if I want to mill myself? I'm not talking about throwing him into Bant Pod as a 1-of, afterall.
I have a three phase plan with this guy.
1. Put him in a deck
2. ?
3. Profit!
Making him work with Scrapyard Salvo is combo kill, but probably too clunky.
Making him work with Boneyard Wurm may be better.
On the tamer side, he's a flashback enabler.
I envision any self-mill deck would want to play these with Birthing Pod so it can enter the battlefield with four or so untapped lands to pay to use its ability. Also, with the Pod, you can afford to play fewer copies.
I don't think this card is going to compete directly with Titans for deck space. In Pod, he's competing with other three drops. I'd imagine any other deck that uses him either won't run enough land to play Titans reliably or will focus on, more often than not, having his initial casting be from the graveyard and not the hand.
The second time I podded for him, I had sacced a bird for an Image to copy a Grave Titan, and then Podded my Image away for RSD finding a metamorph. My board was three lands, two zombies, a Birthing Pod and a Rune-Scarred Demon. My graveyard was a Bird and an Image. My opponent had land - one was a Mystifying Maze - and two zombies. In this case, Sheoldred would have taken several turns to do anything, and the Demon found me a copy of itself.
The third time I podded for him, I found a GftT and immediately killed an opposing Grave Titan. I had sacced a Wurmcoil to find the Demon. Because my opponent didn't have removal, I had a deathtouch token to kill the titan had it attacked, and I had relevant creatures in my graveyard, Sheoldred would have been the better creature that time.
After thinking about it, comparing Sheoldred and RSD's power in the deck is less dependent on matchup and more dependent on individual situations and the actual construction of your deck and sideboard. I haven't played that many games with the demon, but it has worked well enough that I'm going to keep testing it and playing it over Sheoldred until I'm convinced which is better. I don't want to settle on Sheoldred just because she seems to be the obvious choice.
What's stopping me from running them both is their cmcs of 7. I feel that would make my deck too top-heavy.
For the best chance at premium answers, it would be best to post your 75, the Elder-deck's 75(guessed, if necessary), how bad the matchup is for you, and how much maindeck and sideboard space you're willing to throw at this problem, if any.
I haven't had to face a Dungrove deck, but of course the Myr is a serious suggestion. I imagine it would hold off an Elder while I use other creatures to Pod up my chain of Entomber Exarch (Stampede), Acidic Slime (Forest or Sword), Massacre Wurm (Mana Dorks), and Sheoldred or Rune-Scarred Demon. Even if I can't Pod, the boarded-in Myr soaks an Elder's damage until the Elder gets trample or the Myr gets Dismembered.
Just because you haven't seen it used doesn't mean you shouldn't try it. Mirran Crusader is immune from Dismember and Beast Within. It blocks a non-trample Elder indefinitely, and it is hard for the Dungrove deck to deal with once you are on offense.
I would totally Pod away a slime for a Wurmcoil or Sunblast Angel(when there's a tapped Elder), and I would be happy to draw either assuming I get to six mana. Maybe not-so-much the Sunblast if I have a stalemate and my opponent just needs a Stampede to win.
Thrun is a bordeline maindeckable card that can help.
There's always Haze Frog. It counters a Stampede when flashed, and then Pods into Sunblast Angel to kill your opponent's field. I'm joking, of course......or am I?
Darksteel Myr
Mirran Crusader
Sunblast Angel
Sheoldred, Whispering One
Thrun, the Last Troll
I like that the Myr can block no matter which swords they have.