Thanks for the advice all. I talked to the owner before FNM last night, and apparently he thinks it's just something about me that ticks 'Bob' off. So I went ahead and confronted Bob in private, basically asking him if he would mind backing off a bit, and that we didn't even need to speak to each other aside from minimal contact in tournaments if that was what he wanted. He stayed silent the entire time, then walked away when I was done. Dropping after 0-2 in the tournament, and left.
I have no idea what the outcome of this will be, but I hope it will be positive. I just wish he hadn't dropped. He doesn't usually, and I feel like it was because of what I said earlier.
Anyways, thanks for the advice all, I really appreciate it.
Myself:
I am 16, I have been playing magic for 4 years, and I came to this store 3 years ago. I feel I have grown a fair amount in that time, and I try and stay a good sport. I was lucky at birth and have some money, and no expenses, being 16. This means I generally am okay with playing things like x4 JtMS in decks. I usually play control or combo. I took a 6 month break from magic recently, getting back in 3-4 months ago. I get along with everyone but this one person.
Him (Lets call him Bob): Bob is in his 40's, a good friend of the store owner, was his best man at the store owners wedding, ect. He seems to have a stable job, and has no issue with playing money cards, typically plays aggro He is usually a good sport, except against me (More on this later) He gets along with everyone but me.
Reasons that I think he dislikes me:
-I have enough money to buy expensive cards
-I am young, usually the youngest at our store
-I play control
-I do better than him consistently
Examples:
Back in Zen/Scars standard, we are playing in a tournament. I am playing UB control, he is playing WW. We have a tough struggle for the first 5 turns or so, then he overextended into a consume the meek. I manage to lock him down with me at 7 life and take him out with a JtMS 5 or 6 turns later. This was game 3. I say gg (And earnestly meant it), and he looks right at me and says "No, it wasn't. You just countered everything". Bob then stands up and walks away, rather pointedly turning his back to me, leaving his deck on the table.
Shards/Zen standard, I am playing WUr planeswalkers, he is playing Quest (A semi-homebrew UW aiming to use quest of the holy relic with memnites and hawks to win the game, while he stalls with JtMS and co. A bunch of us brewed this and he wanted to play it). Game 2, I won game one due to his mana screw. He plays memnite, hawk bouncing memnite, hawk, and I mindbreak trap the memnite, and path the hawk on his next upkeep, playing a tapped land. He scoops up his deck, and says forfeit. Bob then turns to me, and actually rants at me on my character flaws.
His list:
-I interrupt people when they are talking.
This was true at the time, and I appreciate him telling me this. I have since fixed it to the best of my knowledge.
-I don't respect others
Untrue, I return all respect others show me
-I just netdeck
In standard, yes. I am not a really strong deckbuilder solo, but I enjoy creating a good EDH deck as much as the next guy.
-I only win because I buy expensive cards
I don't think so. I buy them as control tends to get pricey, but I like to think I am winning on skill as much as others are.
-I insult others as im winning
To this he was referring to game one where I said gg. It is honestly just an ingrained habit at this point for the end of every game.
Final example for now:
Recently, playing EDH, 4 player table. He walks in and sits down making it a 5 player table. He is playing BR land destruction, I am playing Karthrus dragon tyrant. From a turn 2 sinkhole on my karoo, to a turn 3 stonerain on my dual, to a turn 4 more LD (Forgot which) on my next land, he LD's me all game, until the azami players combo's out and wins on turn 8. He flashes me a lightning bolt and then turns to the rest of the table and says gg. We do another one without him and it is a massive 3 hour game, he gets back from his table at the 2 hour mark, sees that I have a strong board position, and says "This is why I destroyed his lands, he always plays like a douche" and walks off.
I have talked to several others in my store at this point, and he just REALLY dislikes me for some reason. He is not like this to anyone else, and he even seems ok when he doesn't know I'm around. But then I show up and he clams up and throws passive aggressive insults at me...
Sorry for the long post, this has been going on quite a while, and was even the reason I left magic for the 6 months. So... Long story short, does anyone have any ideas for what I should do?
Card Choices:
Mnumonic Wall: Another deck centerpeice, returns Genisis waves, Warp Worlds, and eventually the banefire.
Aether Adept: Utility, can make your opponent have less permanents on next WW, or can bounce a wall, or a P-Titan if you have 2 cobra's and an aumulet out.
Augury Owl: Can remove cards we dont want Waving into, counts as another permanent for WW, and digs for WW and GW's.
Aumulet: Makes Primevals insane, is another permanent ect.
It doesn't work, and you are not the only one to think of this. You need to return Magosi to your hand to take an extra turn, and since you already need to have a counter on it in order to proliferate on it, it doesn't work, sadly.
Finding out what your own weakness's are, and taking steps to improve them. This sounds obvious, but sometimes it's really hard to asses yourself. I, for example, need to mulligan more. However, I was playing in a PTQ a while back, and kept 2 sketchy hands in a row, and lucksacked my way to victory. I may not have won those if I had not had my weakness. Nevertheless, I still need to realize that, even though it won me a game or two, it is still a weakness, and I still need to improve in it. Anyways, that's my $0.02.
But the biggest issue with this rotation is that the biggest budget decks around so far are going to be either gone or get far more expensive. Rdw needs koth now, and jund/pyromancers are getting far more expensive. Some days it seems like wotc are trying to get rid of all the budget decks. NBC now has grave Titan, valakut has primeval, rdw has koth, ect.
Because a cheaper substitute isn't as good at filling the same role in your deck.
Why doesn't the anti-proxy crowd admit it?
Any opposition to well made proxies is simply silly. Address the points I made earlier or concede the point. As long as the proxy is really well made, why does it matter?
There is someone in my playgroup who objects to me proxying a primeval titan because it is in a standard deck for the next freakin round...
I have no idea what the outcome of this will be, but I hope it will be positive. I just wish he hadn't dropped. He doesn't usually, and I feel like it was because of what I said earlier.
Anyways, thanks for the advice all, I really appreciate it.
Myself:
I am 16, I have been playing magic for 4 years, and I came to this store 3 years ago. I feel I have grown a fair amount in that time, and I try and stay a good sport. I was lucky at birth and have some money, and no expenses, being 16. This means I generally am okay with playing things like x4 JtMS in decks. I usually play control or combo. I took a 6 month break from magic recently, getting back in 3-4 months ago. I get along with everyone but this one person.
Him (Lets call him Bob): Bob is in his 40's, a good friend of the store owner, was his best man at the store owners wedding, ect. He seems to have a stable job, and has no issue with playing money cards, typically plays aggro He is usually a good sport, except against me (More on this later) He gets along with everyone but me.
Reasons that I think he dislikes me:
-I have enough money to buy expensive cards
-I am young, usually the youngest at our store
-I play control
-I do better than him consistently
Examples:
Back in Zen/Scars standard, we are playing in a tournament. I am playing UB control, he is playing WW. We have a tough struggle for the first 5 turns or so, then he overextended into a consume the meek. I manage to lock him down with me at 7 life and take him out with a JtMS 5 or 6 turns later. This was game 3. I say gg (And earnestly meant it), and he looks right at me and says "No, it wasn't. You just countered everything". Bob then stands up and walks away, rather pointedly turning his back to me, leaving his deck on the table.
Shards/Zen standard, I am playing WUr planeswalkers, he is playing Quest (A semi-homebrew UW aiming to use quest of the holy relic with memnites and hawks to win the game, while he stalls with JtMS and co. A bunch of us brewed this and he wanted to play it). Game 2, I won game one due to his mana screw. He plays memnite, hawk bouncing memnite, hawk, and I mindbreak trap the memnite, and path the hawk on his next upkeep, playing a tapped land. He scoops up his deck, and says forfeit. Bob then turns to me, and actually rants at me on my character flaws.
His list:
-I interrupt people when they are talking.
This was true at the time, and I appreciate him telling me this. I have since fixed it to the best of my knowledge.
-I don't respect others
Untrue, I return all respect others show me
-I just netdeck
In standard, yes. I am not a really strong deckbuilder solo, but I enjoy creating a good EDH deck as much as the next guy.
-I only win because I buy expensive cards
I don't think so. I buy them as control tends to get pricey, but I like to think I am winning on skill as much as others are.
-I insult others as im winning
To this he was referring to game one where I said gg. It is honestly just an ingrained habit at this point for the end of every game.
Final example for now:
Recently, playing EDH, 4 player table. He walks in and sits down making it a 5 player table. He is playing BR land destruction, I am playing Karthrus dragon tyrant. From a turn 2 sinkhole on my karoo, to a turn 3 stonerain on my dual, to a turn 4 more LD (Forgot which) on my next land, he LD's me all game, until the azami players combo's out and wins on turn 8. He flashes me a lightning bolt and then turns to the rest of the table and says gg. We do another one without him and it is a massive 3 hour game, he gets back from his table at the 2 hour mark, sees that I have a strong board position, and says "This is why I destroyed his lands, he always plays like a douche" and walks off.
I have talked to several others in my store at this point, and he just REALLY dislikes me for some reason. He is not like this to anyone else, and he even seems ok when he doesn't know I'm around. But then I show up and he clams up and throws passive aggressive insults at me...
Sorry for the long post, this has been going on quite a while, and was even the reason I left magic for the 6 months. So... Long story short, does anyone have any ideas for what I should do?
If that will truly be the meta, then it will NOT be those decks winning.
4 Warpworld
4 Genesis Wave
1 Banefire
Creatures
4 Mnumonic Wall
1 Aether adept
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Primeval titan
3 Augury Owl
1 Elixer of immortality
4 Aumulet of Vigor
Lands
2 Khalni Garden
4 Forest
4 Island
2 Mountain
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Verdant Catacombs
4 Copperline Gorge
Card Choices:
Mnumonic Wall: Another deck centerpeice, returns Genisis waves, Warp Worlds, and eventually the banefire.
Aether Adept: Utility, can make your opponent have less permanents on next WW, or can bounce a wall, or a P-Titan if you have 2 cobra's and an aumulet out.
Augury Owl: Can remove cards we dont want Waving into, counts as another permanent for WW, and digs for WW and GW's.
Aumulet: Makes Primevals insane, is another permanent ect.
*More Later*
The good the bad and the ugly of 2004.
The only thing that stuck out were 2 sentences
1) Skullclamp shouldn't have been banned.
2) Magic is getting even more expensive.
Either of those sound familiar?
The second one was...
How would I make a balanced counterspell?
In this thread, there are people BEGGING for a UUU: counter target spell.
Anyways, it just seems to me that people complain about the same things a lot, and it was an interesting observation.
BTW: Do not post in any of these threads.
So Grave Titan is stronger that Jace or Primeval? Not a chance, especially not Jace.
Or, better yet, Venser's Journal.
Yeah, that combo just became 2 cards instead of 3, and both pieces are well worth running on their own!
There is someone in my playgroup who objects to me proxying a primeval titan because it is in a standard deck for the next freakin round...