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    posted a message on [[Official]] Miscut, Misprint, Foreign, Foil &Other Oddities Price Thread.
    Quote from Nexusnaga »
    Hi folks, I've pulled a foil tormenting voices from amonkhet out of my standard showdown booster. However, the foil "layer" is not that of tormenting voices, but of drake haven. You can even see where the little authenticity foil thing would have gone on the bottom. Does this increase the value? and if so by how much?

    PS; i'll try and add a picture later

    Thanks in advance for posting a high-resolution picture. With misprints like this, it's almost impossible to tell from just a description.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on What to do with a second pre release pack
    Hi Indi, welcome to MTGS!

    Personally, unless money is super-tight for you I'd either crack it and bolster my cardpool or, like Seal said, get a friend and play Sealed (or both). Here's some math for you:
    These boxes can be had on eBay for $24, shipped. Shipping costs will be $4 or $5, and eBay will take about $2. So you're looking at $18 in your pocket when all's said and done. That's not too much for the effort of posting it, waiting, packaging it, and driving it to the post office. Like I said, if money is tight you might want to do that, but I'd advise against it.

    If you're new to MTG as well as new to our forum, then bust it open with a friend and see what kind of deck you can build with the cards. Hit me up with a PM or post your pool in this thread - we may be able to offer advice on individual cards, if you'd like it.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on The Commander Price Discussion Thread
    Quote from joejack8445 »
    What on earth happened in the last couple of day to Magus of the Wheel? It's going for $19.99 on TCGplayer at the moment and Ebay has one at cheapest for $12.89 at cheapest for an english copy.

    Probably The Locust God. Wheel effects are kind of awesome when they come with 7 1/1 flyers, and the new Gods are more comboriffic for EDH than the AMK Gods.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on [Compiled] Upcoming Promo Information
    Quote from ThorNaadoh »
    So... FNM promos are tokens now (from October onward)?
    No more playable goodies?

    You got it. Check out the OP - I reworked it last night to account for all these changes.

    This is a pretty huge change, and while I hope it works out for us I gotta say that killing the FNM promos seems like a step in the wrong direction. If they'd decided to do so in March, after a loooooong string of failures, people might've been more receptive but FNM foils literally just got good again.

    Foil tokens are cool, but they've gotta be actually useful tokens and not just Standard flash-in-the-pan. Zombie was great. Servo not so much.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on "Selling a whole collection" thread
    Quote from jeffbcrandall »
    I would likely suggest keeping a couple of edh decks that you particularly like, you should also be able to safely keep any reserved list cards you have. But honestly the rest if you aren't going to be using them anytime soon, you should sell.

    I'll echo this advice - if your student loans are anything like mine, your decks won't put a dent in them. And if you find yourself in a new job, in a new state, and you're looking for a way to get a social life off the ground, you'll be glad that you've got those decks in your back pocket. If you can move the rest, that's great (I'd just keep the decks and move the rest - I wouldn't even both holding the RL cards unless you have truly irreplaceable stuff like power or A/B duals). Sure, holding RL cards is generally the best financial move if we're talking MTG cards, but if you're leaving the game then there are other investment opportunities that become available that don't tie up your attention keeping tabs on mtgfinance.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Miscut, Misprint, Foreign, Foil &Other Oddities Price Thread.
    Quote from Stoogeslap »
    I saw that, but Russian brings in a premium when it's foiled out, right?

    Russian promos are not terribly rare. Especially FNM and Game Day. WOTC knows how many stores they have that need prize support, so they print accordingly, but a lot of Russian stores actually get English product because WOTC underprints Russian booster product. That's why Russian pack foils are so stupid expensive - it's hard to get them even in Russia.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on MTG Masterpiece Series Thread
    Quote from GPash »
    Is it just me, or are the Masterpieces climbing in price? In particular, it seems like the chase Kaladesh Inventions (Sol Ring, Chalice of the Void, Explosives, etc.) are spiking. Is it because they're now out of print? Maybe because of the announcement that there won't be Masterpieces every set? How high can we expect them to rise?

    Hi GPash. I'd like to direct you to Kaburi's excellent article for some card-by-card numbers. I'd also like to point out that these buyouts started before the announcement about the MPS series not being printed in every set. So, in short, someone (or someones) is attempting market manipulation, and honestly it seems to be working.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on Which Booster Box to Buy (First One Ever)
    Quote from chataolauj »
    I apologize in advance if this isn't the correct place to post about this topic. So, I'm planning to buy my first ever booster box because I want to experience what it's like to open 36 booster packs all at once.

    I'm going within my budget of $90 and under, so the sets that I want to buy are
    • Return to Ravnica
    • Theros
    • Shadows Over Innistrad
    The issue that I'm having is that I'm having hard time deciding which set I should purchase. Return to Ravnica and Theros have nice rares, but Shadows Over Innistrad is more of my play style; Shadows over Innistrad is $12 cheaper ($77 on TCG) too. Also, I'm not looking for return value from the booster box; just want the best all around set from the three, meaning which set has the better commons, uncommons, etc.

    I just want to know what your thoughts and/or experiences are regarding these three sets.

    Personally, I'd go with RTR, given your criteria.

    Some up-front facts:
    1) Buying a booster box to open it will almost definitely give you negative EV (that is to say, unless you're lucky, you'll lose money from doing so).
    2) Opening a booster box all at once is a special kind of fun. I haven't done it in a while (haven't bought any boxes since my daughter was born), but fun is a very reasonable thing to expect out of buying a game.
    3) RTR has solid value in the rare slot, as well as a lot of unique and useful cards at common and uncommon.
    4) SOI will rotate out of standard relatively soon, so most of the cards will decrease in value.

    So, since you want to do this thing, I'd say RTR now, and possibly SOI as well once it rotates out.

    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on SCD: Noble Hierarch MM2015
    Quote from laoshun »
    I have a chance to pick these up at $50.00 a piece or should I wait? Is this a card that will lower in value with more time passing?

    As with most Modern hot cards, I'd say "What is your use for this card?" At $50, it's perfectly fine if you're going to immediately jam 4 copies into a Modern Infect deck and take it to FNM or a GP. Is it a great card to sit on and hope that the price goes up? No. Eventually it'll be reprinted.

    The short-term flip is where it gets tricky, and since she's $55 shipped on TCGPlayer, I'd say that $50 a pop isn't a great deal. While saving $20 on a playset is nice for your own purposes, trying to flip a playset at a $20 profit just isn't worth it.

    To sum up:
    If she goes into a deck you're building now, buy it.
    If you want to try to flip her for profit, don't buy it.
    If you want to try to hold her and bet on a price increase in the fall, don't buy it.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on When to buy enemy fetches--now?
    Quote from jeffbcrandall »
    If you are just buying to hold for potential future use, then you would have to weigh whether you are willing to eat some future losses from a future reprint and when that reprint might be, versus buying them now at a temporary low point. Thusly, if you are buying them for a deck, buying now is 100% fine, if you are buying them for the purpose of avoiding having to buy them later at a higher price, but don't NEED them immediately, then honestly that's going to have to be up to you.

    Well put (as always), Jeff.

    So, OP - we've hashed this around a bit. Care to tell us more about your intended use of these fetches?
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on Update: (Also today 6/26) eBay flash sale means $73 Hour of Devastation booster boxes until 11pm Eastern tonight only (6/23/17)
    Looks like there's another flash sale going tonight. Again, until 8PM PDT/11PM EDT.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Miscut, Misprint, Foreign, Foil &Other Oddities Price Thread.
    Quote from kigall »
    Hey guys,

    I recently received this diagonally miscut judge foil mystic confluence. This is the first time I've seen a miscut judge foil and was wondering if anyone knew how much it'd be worth.

    Thanks

    Interesting.

    While ordinarily I'd say "That barely qualifies as a miscut", you're right that judge foil miscuts are pretty rare. I don't think that you're going to get a significant premium for it, but you may be able to get $5-$10 over normal price.

    There is, as is always the case with misprints, the possibility that you find that one guy with ridiculously deep pockets who really wants it, and is willing to pay 2x. I don't think that it's likely, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    If yours is miscut, though, that means that there are probably 120 others that are miscut in a similar fashion (it's hard to have one miscut card without the rest of the sheet being miscut [hard but not impossible - depends on the QA process]). So, if you're looking to move it as a miscut, I'd move it sooner rather than later.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on When to buy enemy fetches--now?
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Quote from KnickM »
    Besides, the longer you wait, the less time you'll have to actually play with them. That counts for something.


    The last statement I tend to disagree with completely. That assumption is basically saying modern is going to die along with legacy if a new format were to come around and that will basically never happen, as we have formats going such as the 93 format and vintage still here.

    Oh no, you misunderstand me. I'm definitely not saying that WOTC has plans to shut off Modern. All I'm saying is that if I buy a card in January, I can play with it for 6 months longer than if I bought it in July. It's not more time at the end of the card's legal life, it's more time up front. This is something that people bring up all the time when answering the "when to buy" question, because as much as it's a financial consideration, MTG is still a game, and being able to sleeve up your deck in January instead of July does have its own merits.

    Quote from Colt47 »
    Fetches need to be printed to a level that gets their prices at least in the 20 usd range. That is where most players tend to cap their costs on these kinds of cards, as they basically just serve a function in the game rather than provide feel of play.

    I'm going to disagree on this one - fetches are as expensive as they are because people cap their costs at the current cost of fetches. If players capped their costs at $20, nobody would buy fetches at current prices, and stores would be forced to reduce prices until the cards started selling. It's true that fetchlands are "boring", but these days everybody knows that a solid manabase is critical to deck construction, and the dual lands in a set (be they fetches, shocks, battle lands, bicycles, or peek lands) are usually among the most consistent pickups.

    SHOULD fetches be sub-$20? Well, that'd be nice to get more players into Modern. WILL they be sub-$20? If WOTC chooses to go back to the well for 3 more Masters sets, then fetchland prices will go down significantly. I don't see that happening - I think that they'll space it out a bit. They're definitely going to be reprinted - they sell Masters sets, and that makes good money for WOTC. But if they reprint fetches too frequently, then they'll cease to be a selling point.

    Quote from Colt47 »
    Plus, a "fetchless format"? This is coming from the company that constantly prints Evolving Wilds, which if the primary complaint of fetches mechanically is the shuffling of ones deck, do exactly the same thing. In fact, if we start going into green players are shuffling decks quite a bit if they do search cards for land such as Rampant Growth.

    Yeah, neither of those cards is exactly tearing up tables in Modern, or even Standard. Several people at WOTC have come out and said that the time delay involved in the constant shuffling is not something that they want, and while you're right in that cards that search libraries will always be printed, if they aren't pushed then players won't include them. And since those two examples only fetch basics (and fetch them tapped), they take away a lot of the power of the "real" fetches.

    Again, it's only my theory - WOTC has been pretty silent on the Frontier ... front. But given all the kvetching that they've been doing about shuffling time, plus the fact that fetches pretty much define Modern as a format (in terms of the near-perfect manabase that they create) leads me to believe that the next format won't include them.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on When to buy enemy fetches--now?
    Quote from Colt47 »
    What I'm hoping for is that they reprint the fetchlands in standard set, which should be possible once they get away from the basic land types being attached to lands.

    Yeah, don't get your hopes up.

    Not only is WOTC getting more aggressive with adding basic types to lands, but putting the enemy fetches in MM3 indicates that they're trying to keep fetches out of Standard. My personal theory is that Frontier, or Postmodern (or whatever the next new format is) will be a fetch-less format, to help differentiate it from fetch-heavy Modern - and that means that if WOTC is even considering the idea, they'll hold off on fetches. WOTC will continue to put fetches in Masters sets because they'll sell whatever set they're in, but it's just too much to hope for a Standard-legal printing.

    Enemy fetches are at a decent price right now, and while they may be reprinted in the next few Masters sets, there are enough people like you who have badly wanted them for a long time that the price won't take too much of a hit unless they're in EVERY Masters product for several years.

    Besides, the longer you wait, the less time you'll have to actually play with them. That counts for something.
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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    posted a message on Update: (Also today 6/26) eBay flash sale means $73 Hour of Devastation booster boxes until 11pm Eastern tonight only (6/23/17)
    I wish that eBay would publicize these a little better. By which I mean: at all. Do they want us to make reckless impulse purchases, or not?

    Market Street peeps, little poll: Should we sticky a thread like this so that anyone who notices the sale (because they happen at least once per month, but on zero notice) can notify the whole Cafe?
    Posted in: Market Street Café
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