good suggestions so far. i really have thought about making it a tri-color and adding white, the only reason i didnt is i already have 2 Wx type lock/enchantment decks that im using in modern and casual. but i agree white really does have alot to offer. i really like the mana denial, a turn one root maze and turn 2 algae with urborg will make most people just scoop then and there, even just a turn 2 algae with urborg is debilitating. i think adding white for ghostly prison, suppression field and sigil of the empty throne is a good way to go.
the eidolons actually are pretty good with the one drop enchantments and with mana bloom it can net cards, yes it is DOA but i run 4 and people also hate on the Courser's which come out a turn b4 so. i think i will up the courser count to 4, drop Erbos, slime and lignify for 2 sigils, 3 suppression fields and 2 ghostly prisons
this is still pretty rough. i was torn between making it a GW or BG deck. i try to avoid Tri color decks but i am tempted to try so with this one
a turn on root maze is pretty debilitating, especially if u have urborg/ Algae it can wreak most decks. i'll admit it is lacking in win cons, but thats why im posting to get som feedback.
curfew anyone? has great synergy with Nevermaker and help protect your creatures.
i have a similar deck that tries to abuse the come into play creatures. Eternal Witness and Familiars Ruse is pretty mean. Evacuation for aggro/token decks or Aethersize but id prefer Evac here. if all your trying to do is just bounce creatures then the deck is never going to win,i mean you can do it but all that's going to happen is a long drawn out game were you end up losing. gotta have a wincon. and with venser at 5 mana he really would need to build around him. hes good but you need to protect him and have lots of creatures/Permanents with ETB Effects for him to be great.
this deck can basically lock an opponent out. being able to counter with familiars ruse and vial in Eternal Witness means you always have a counter. Combine that with nevermaker and cloudstone curio and you can just lock there draw up. this deck is along the lines of just be annoying enough to hope they coincide since it has no real Wincon.
i gotta second cutting down on the discard. its black it does discard but what happens when u empty there hand and ur top decking a mind twist? i would run 4 hymns, and mabey 3 duress, and 3 blackmail. The rats are sub par seeing as u run a boat load of discard and the hypiee's, I would replace him with 4 Gatekeepers of Malakir. the akuba is also a flop. im also not a big fan of nantuko shade as he has no evasion and usually get chumped. you do run alot of remove so mabey as a 2 of? id much rather run Oona's Prowler.
also u need some kinda of card draw. Skeletal Scrying is an awesome card for that, id try to squeeze in 3 if you can.
honestly you need more lower cost cards that have CitP effects. and seriously consider putting at least 2 Flickerwisp in. they are so good in a deck like this. you can not only exile your perm but also problem perms on your opponents side too. if u blink him with venser you can remove things for a whole turn on either side.
here is what i have been running in modern
yeah i found like 3 other guys doing something similar so im guessing its all booty rare/ chandras and tibalts. i convinced my friend to buy like 3 of them just to see,lol. so i will know what it really is in a few days.
yeah i figured it was bull, even if i did buy one for ****s and Giggles id never expect to get anything like jtms or liliana. was just wondering if anyone has bought it and what they got
i know about the buy booster box repack trick, but these seem to be completely different. the description basically says u get 1 planeswalker(possibly in Japanese or Russian) 4 modern rares 4 modern uncommons and 1 foil card or 1 extra walker.
all for 8.99 + shipping. and of course they show a picture of 4x JTMS.
just wondering if anyone has purchased any of these and if there legit/ worth it? im almost tempted to buy a couple, but at 12 bucks each im wary that im just gonna get 2 of the cheapest planeswalkers and a bunch of .50 junk rares.
anyone?
if ur running venser blink then id fit in some flickerwisp,sun titan is always great to if u have alot of 3 and under cmc perms,i run him with just Court Hussar,since if i blink him he dies. though it' does take some building around him to be effective. also a great card i like to run is rise of the hobgoblins. you can make a good amout of knee biters pretty fast. Runed Halo can be just ridiculous, along with pithing needle.
Just so I am clear. Are you stating that Legacy is a format where overpowered cards are banned:eek:
second this one, legacy is in no way shape or form what i am looking for, i play legacy and its a beast unto its own. and exactly the opposite of what im trying to accomplish. thanks to gaea's regent for the real input, everyone else seems to be getting offended or something, like i said im not trying to make casual into a format. maybe everyone is getting confused with the post title, so my apologizes all. i should have named the post something different.
any way my goal was to make a Casual-ish format that encompassed all sets save unsets. the point of banning cards is to neuter know and proven arch types, so as not to have basically legacy, and to allow development of new decks.
so here it is a ban list, we are using the modern and legacy ban list with these additions, it will include all sets save un sets. Tarmagoyf, daze, Force of Will, Strip Mine, WasteLand. Stoneforge mystic, Jace the Mind Sculptor,karakas, Helm of obedience, grind stone, Iona,Sneak attack, intuition, show and tell, lions eye diamond, Gaea’s cradle, cavern of souls, Armageddon, dread return,liquid metal coating, candelabra of tawnos, metal worker. this is a rough draft so far and more will be added/ removed as seen fit.
so does any one have any real input or is everyone just gonna argue semantics? i mean is it that much of a big deal to ask for help for this community and not get smart arse remarks for tim, bob and bill? @Jivanmukta, if u read my post here you would see that im making this for me and my playgroup, and like i already said if u dont agree or like it thats fine. u can take it or leave it. use it or lose i really don't care. All i am asking for is some REAL input not sarcasm and nit picking
the eidolons actually are pretty good with the one drop enchantments and with mana bloom it can net cards, yes it is DOA but i run 4 and people also hate on the Courser's which come out a turn b4 so. i think i will up the courser count to 4, drop Erbos, slime and lignify for 2 sigils, 3 suppression fields and 2 ghostly prisons
4 Grim Guardian
4 Eidolon of Blossoms
3 Acidic Slime
3 Courser of Kruphix
Non-Creature Spells
3 Root Maze
4 Spreading Algae
3 Mana Bloom
3 Erbos, God of the Dead
3 Damnation
3 Grasp of Darkness
2 Rain of Tears
3 Lignify
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Treetop Village
4 Tectonic Edge
2 Ghost Quarter
3 Forest
this is still pretty rough. i was torn between making it a GW or BG deck. i try to avoid Tri color decks but i am tempted to try so with this one
a turn on root maze is pretty debilitating, especially if u have urborg/ Algae it can wreak most decks. i'll admit it is lacking in win cons, but thats why im posting to get som feedback.
i have a similar deck that tries to abuse the come into play creatures.
Eternal Witness and Familiars Ruse is pretty mean. Evacuation for aggro/token decks or Aethersize but id prefer Evac here. if all your trying to do is just bounce creatures then the deck is never going to win,i mean you can do it but all that's going to happen is a long drawn out game were you end up losing. gotta have a wincon. and with venser at 5 mana he really would need to build around him. hes good but you need to protect him and have lots of creatures/Permanents with ETB Effects for him to be great.
here is two decks you might be interested in
3 Wall of Blossoms
3 Coiling Oracle
3 Dream Stalker
3 Eternal Witness
2 Kitchen Finks
3 Nevermaker
2 Venser, Shaper Savant
4 Aether Vial
3 Cloudstone Curio
Instants:
3 Remand
3 Familiar's Ruse
4 Curfew
2 Evacuation
this deck can basically lock an opponent out. being able to counter with familiars ruse and vial in Eternal Witness means you always have a counter. Combine that with nevermaker and cloudstone curio and you can just lock there draw up. this deck is along the lines of just be annoying enough to hope they coincide since it has no real Wincon.
4 Court Hussar
3 Flickerwisp
3 Inquisitor Exarch
3 Wall of Omens
3 Sun Titan
2 Restoration Angel
2 Kitchen Finks
2 Blade Splicer
3 Runed Halo
3 Venser The Sojourner
1 Wrath of God
2 Supreme Verdict
4 Detention Sphere
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Elspeth Knight-Errant
2 Celestial Colonnade
3 Mystic Gate
2 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Hallowed Fountain
3 Ghost Quarter
4 Plains
2 Island
hope this helps
also u need some kinda of card draw. Skeletal Scrying is an awesome card for that, id try to squeeze in 3 if you can.
here is what i have been running in modern
4 Court Hussar
3 Flickerwisp
3 Inquisitor Exarch
3 Wall of Omens
3 Sun Titan
2 Restoration Angel
2 Kitchen Finks
2 Blade Splicer
Non-Creature Spells:
3 Runed Halo
3 Venser The Sojourner
1 Wrath of God
2 Supreme Verdict
4 Detention Sphere
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Elspeth Knight-Errant
2 Celestial Colonnade
3 Mystic Gate
2 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Hallowed Fountain
3 Ghost Quarter
4 Plains
2 Island
2 Stone Cloaker
2 Pithing Needle
2 Azoruis Arrester
3 Path to Exile
3 Blind Obedience
3 Sphere Of Safety
been doing pretty good even against some of the top tier decks.
hope it this helps
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-Memnarch
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i know about the buy booster box repack trick, but these seem to be completely different. the description basically says u get 1 planeswalker(possibly in Japanese or Russian) 4 modern rares 4 modern uncommons and 1 foil card or 1 extra walker.
all for 8.99 + shipping. and of course they show a picture of 4x JTMS.
just wondering if anyone has purchased any of these and if there legit/ worth it? im almost tempted to buy a couple, but at 12 bucks each im wary that im just gonna get 2 of the cheapest planeswalkers and a bunch of .50 junk rares.
anyone?
second this one, legacy is in no way shape or form what i am looking for, i play legacy and its a beast unto its own. and exactly the opposite of what im trying to accomplish. thanks to gaea's regent for the real input, everyone else seems to be getting offended or something, like i said im not trying to make casual into a format. maybe everyone is getting confused with the post title, so my apologizes all. i should have named the post something different.
any way my goal was to make a Casual-ish format that encompassed all sets save unsets. the point of banning cards is to neuter know and proven arch types, so as not to have basically legacy, and to allow development of new decks.
Tarmagoyf, daze, Force of Will, Strip Mine, WasteLand. Stoneforge mystic, Jace the Mind Sculptor,karakas, Helm of obedience, grind stone, Iona,Sneak attack, intuition, show and tell, lions eye diamond, Gaea’s cradle, cavern of souls, Armageddon, dread return,liquid metal coating, candelabra of tawnos, metal worker. this is a rough draft so far and more will be added/ removed as seen fit.