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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Anyone think things would be better if most, if not all, of the stories for a block were written by one person, assuming said writer was good.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from user_938036 »
    I hate to bring this up again but it needs to be said: no one is dying. At all. Since Origins only four characters with cards have died: Avacyn, Brisela, Kozilek, and Ulamog. That's all. Only antagonists. And no one at all in Kaladesh.

    It honestly feels like these stories are being written for eight year olds who can't handle any of their favorite characters dying. As the story needed anything else to make it feel more like a superhero comic for children than a legitimate fantasy story.

    If no one is killed by Bolas in Amonkhet, not a single named character, then I'm done with the story.
    I've never really understood this stance. What long running serializations kill off characters with any regularity(besides GoT Way too many people die in that, it seems more for shock than plot most times)?

    I don't want to sound rude or condescending I'm honestly curious because enough people here have voiced such an opinion that it leads me to believe that (semi-main or important side)characters do in fact die fairly often in other stories that I simply don't read. I'm open to the possibility that I don't expose myself to the proper sources but currently it just sounds ridiculous that no one goes about killing important characters with any regularity(besides that one) and a significant number of people expect it here.

    If you just mean significant consequences like death then I can understand where you're coming from a bit better, but considering we're still on only the third story it still seems rather premature.


    I find the whole 'we need a death to happen' thing doesn't really work with what MTG is: a game. Our characters are part game piece, part marketing.Killing them means they can't be printed in main sets.
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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    I feel they still are fine tuning how to tell stories with the Gatewatch as our overarching focus. Battle and Shadows poorly handled new characters, both walker and lendgedary. I think with Kaladesh, we've gotten better stories with Yahenni, Rashmi, Kari. I hope they can find a balance between the long term plot and short term planar stories.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    I wonder if Baan is going to be a recurring character, if not full on antagonist. If so I have to think he may taverse the Multiverse warning other walkers of the Gatewatch's marvelous ability to destablize things.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    I wonder if Tezzeret ia under some sort of deadline? Can't wait to see the why he's doing these things.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Finally, a story! I love how things like scents and sounds are used to represent emontons. 90% sure we'll get a Yahenni card.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    For like two seconds I imagined Jace chasing after Ral to stop him and have a cute moment.

    I have some questions regarding Project Lightning Bug. So it allows Ral to see where planeswalkers are 'walking to, but can he only see planes he's aware of, which would mean planes that he has visited himself right? Or is the known-multiverse mapped out? Because that seems like a powerful tool. And that would make sense that Amonkhet, an uncharted realm, wouldn't show up.

    Ah, all these years and the primary mode of travel between stories is still shrouded in mystery.

    I take Ral's ability to trace where a Walkers going to as confirmation that planes have a location relative to others, like planets in our solar system.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    If I remember correctly, Bolas retreated somewhere after he used Leshrac to seal the Madaran Rift, somewhere he was confidant would survive the end of the multiverse. I wonder of this hidden location is where Bolas went, be it his meditation realm or Amonket.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from RaltheMad »
    Quote from NguyenTranLoc »
    That was okay, I guess? The interesting things happened before and after the big showdown. Apparently Vraska was eaten by the Blind Eternities.


    Or she might have walked to a plane that is being hidden by something or someone. My money is either on Bolas or Ob. Hell this coukd even be how they find Amonkhet.

    Yeah I doubt they'd have Vraska just die like that. A plane hidden sounds like a cool idea.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from Lord_Mektar »
    How has nobody addressed the best part of today's story yet? And by that, I mean Shadowblayde. She's a quirky, female version of every unnecessarily edgy comic book character from the '80s, complete with ridiculous name and an excessive number of pouches on her outfit. If she doesn't have a card in Aether Revolt, I will be extremely disappointed.

    More like a 90s comic book character, but yes she was fun. Hope she gets a card.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from Mullerornis »
    Maybe he'll be a void or shadow mage when we return to Kamigawa, in a proper set or in supplemental products

    Or a ninja.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from willdice »
    Quote from MrPopo »
    The more interesting thing to me about the Elspeth story is it sounds like she grew up on a plane touched by Phyrexians.

    It was known:

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/honor-bound-2009-05-07

    Is there another Phyrexian stronghold out in the multiverse, maybe not as overrun as Mirrodin?

    Yes. Old Phyrexia attacked or had sleeper agents in many planes, including Moag (my personal headcannon for Elspeth's home plane) and Mercadia.

    Plus Karn with his tainted heart stone could have infected countless worlds.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Ajduk »
    Quote from SteamMage »
    Quote from Ajduk »
    This entire chapter confused me. Can anyone explain at which point in the timeline is the Ajani on Kamigawa taking place and what was going on with Tezzeret at that time?


    It looks like six months ago Ajani went to Tamiyo's at some point after Elspeth's death on Theros, shortly before Tamiyo returned to Innistrad. There we learn that the events of Scars happened about two years prior and Agents of Artifice a year before that.

    Five months ago, Ajani finds that Tezzeret is on Kaladesh and goes there, where he meets Mrs. Pashrir and she lets him crash on her couch.


    So Ajani goes to visit Tamiyo but at this point Narset is also a planeswalker. Tezzeret and friends are burning villages in Kamigawa until Tezz gets killed and his body is claimed by Bolas. Then Tezz comes backs, kills some more folks and pisses Ajani off who then goes to Kaladesh to find him...and all of this is happening between OGW and SOI? That is not how I recall the timeline.
    Weird.
    Then again it was a quick read...

    No, Tezzeret burned the Nuzmui village three years ago, before the events of Scars of Mirodin. Given that Ajani goes to Kamigawa sometime after the events of Theros and here we learn that Narset has visited Tamiyo we can infer that Theros and Tarkir happen concurrently.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from PapaThor »
    Ajani lost important people in his life, wears a cloak, broods, and doesn't kill. he's Catman?

    that aside, him opening up his story hit me right in the feels.


    Would that make Tamiyo Oracle?
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Ajduk »
    This entire chapter confused me. Can anyone explain at which point in the timeline is the Ajani on Kamigawa taking place and what was going on with Tezzeret at that time?


    It looks like six months ago Ajani went to Tamiyo's at some point after Elspeth's death on Theros, shortly before Tamiyo returned to Innistrad. There we learn that the events of Scars happened about two years prior and Agents of Artifice a year before that.

    Five months ago, Ajani finds that Tezzeret is on Kaladesh and goes there, where he meets Mrs. Pashrir and she lets him crash on her couch.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Tamiyo has other planeswaker contacts, so it doesn't have to be her who tells Ajani about the Gatewatch
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from 5colors »
    As well as confirming the fact Tezzeret is building...something, makes the planar portal seeming having more footing now.

    Still unknown 100% if Mrs. Pashiri dies, but the book hints Ajani saves all three woman.
    Yep, basically all we learned between Duels and the Fat Pack is that Tezz has retreated to a tower with all of the inventions.

    My issue here is that Rashmi's device wasn't even shown off at the fair. I don't see how it's anything other than an accident that Tezz gets his hands on it.

    Yeah but Rashmi did show the device to Padeem, one of the judges, in a preliminary round. Given that it is a revolutionary invention, and that Saheeli pulled strings to give Rashmi the chance to show it off, I think its not a large stretch to assume the teleporter did impress Padeem.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Flisch »
    Quote from Zarundar »
    but then the rest of the gatewatch arrive because Lilli went to fetch them

    Since creative seems to prefer having the interactions within the gatewatch to follow the Magic colours circle, I assume that Liliana went to fetch the gatewatch. Then Liliana and Nissa are going to have an argument over who is the better friend, because Liliana went to actually get help, while Nissa claims that she at least stood by her friend, while Liliana just disappeared. Then Chandra butts in and says that they were both helpful and wants them to stop fighting.

    Quote from Zarundar »
    The only blank spot left here is the timing of the confiscation of all the inventions. Does Tez confiscate everything and then fight Pia to showcase his dominance, trying to quell any kind of resistance showing that it's futile (though that could backfire if you make her into a martyr figure) or does he order the confiscation after being forced to retreat. Whatever the case, all of this ends up causing the Aether revolt to break out.

    Confiscation Coup (5/5) comes after Fateful Showdown (4/5), so it's safe to assume that Tezzeret somehow escapes and demands all the inventions after the duel.

    I think while Tezz is fighting Pia, Chandra, Nissa and Ajani crash the duel, followed by the rest of the GW. Because of the interference, Tezz confiscates the inventions under the guise of 'The Resistance is revolting, I need to use your stuff to fight them', conflating the GW with the Resistance.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from user_938036 »
    Quote from SteamMage »
    Quote from Zarundar »
    I do hope we see this character again and that he interacts with Nissa.

    Something in my chest sings a little, but the song isn't for me. My waking mind tells me to ignore the strange humming I feel at a distance. I turn to Chandra.


    That line was interesting to me and I hope it'll be brought up again.


    Sounds like Aetherborn, or at least Yahenni, can feel when someone uses Magic.
    Considering how Nissa likens them to elementals its more probable that the same spell she uses to call out and craft elementals resonates with the aetherborn because they are at heart elementals.

    Hadn't thought of that. Good point.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from Zarundar »
    I do hope we see this character again and that he interacts with Nissa.

    Something in my chest sings a little, but the song isn't for me. My waking mind tells me to ignore the strange humming I feel at a distance. I turn to Chandra.


    That line was interesting to me and I hope it'll be brought up again.


    Sounds like Aetherborn, or at least Yahenni, can feel when someone uses Magic.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    Quote from Mullerornis »
    Anyone else think Yahenni is Green/Black? They did make friends with two mono-Green characters and one from Green's allied colours.


    Aside from being a product of nature, they strike me more red than green. Empathy is a large red trait. But I definitely see green.


    Red and Green both have empathic leaning capacity. Though it seems that Aetherborn all have the empathy sense. So I don't think we can determin Tahenni's colors by it.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Interesting story this week. Cool insight into the nature of Aetherborn. Empathic sense, innate knowledge of how long they have left, cool stuff. Yahenni's is a character I hope we get in Revolt, they're dilemma to employ the vampiric drain, to extend they're life at the cost of another's, great stuff.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from OathboundOne »
    So, it appears that Saheeli Rai is Arlinn Kord all over again.

    Only worse, given that since she was the face of the set it's only natural to assume that she would actually play any role whatsoever in the plane's story.


    It appears that Kelly Digges is of a different opinion
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    So, I just saw someone on twitter point out that Rashmi is an anagram of Mishra, which I also found out is a Hindu surname. Two layer reference or something more?
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Well we know what Chandra's going to do now.
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    posted a message on How did Tezzeret end up as the boss of Kaladesh?
    Quote from Zarundar »
    What bothers me is how Tez could have climbed the ranks so fast, just being a good artificer doesn't cut it, politics are involved too and how do you explain away your amazing skills AND appearing literally out of nowhere?

    I hope they show us how he did it.

    Dr. Jest better still be a thing, he was amazing .-.



    Completely conspiracy nut theories here that I don't really believe myself:
    Imagine Phyrexia DOES invade Kaladesh via Tez somehow. We all know how glistening oil and artifact planes mix. Better than glistening oil and water, that's for sure '-'
    We could have Pia as the Evincar because epic drama. Then Baral could be a high ranking Phyrexian who competes with her, because inner conflict propels Phyrexia forward.
    The judges we have seen so far could be complaeted into praetors.
    The Phyrexians would now have access to planar portalesque technology that they can work on. They now also have access to Aether.
    Also Gremlins are another hint that this is coming, because where else have we seen gremlins? Right, Phyrexia. They will be assimilated and color shifted to black.
    To finalize, Emrakul will be awakened by the gatewatch and she will cleanse the multiverse of the Phyrexians, raising two new titans (She can m'Emrakul Elesh Norn)and scouring this blight from the multiverse. She then makes everything pretty and Kaladeshi again. It makes perfect sense, because glistening oil and the touch of the blind eternities don't go so well together (spark in the heart etc). The ending will be like that of Wolf's Rain though. Also jet fuel can't melt steel beams.


    /end


    Perhaps palms were greased, if you catch my drift.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    I've got an idea about why/how Ajani gets involved. Ajani is still on Theros when either Tamiyo or one of her associates shows up. Ajani learns of the Gatewatch, and ventures to Ravnica to meet with them. While Ajani is meeting with Jace and Gideon, someone 'walks back(Lilliana if the art of Nissa and Chandra in prison is any indication) and tells them whats going on and mentions Tezzeret. Tezzeret leads to Bolas and Ajani is in.
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    posted a message on Wizards Account Holders Exclusive Preview
    OK the flying whale sold me, someone at Wizards listens to Steam Powered Giraffe. I love it.
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    posted a message on How did Tezzeret end up as the boss of Kaladesh?
    I think that if Tezzeret is there under Bolas's orders, it has to be part of some long term plan. I doubt Tezz could show up one day, show off some fancy bit of artifice and be made someone of high standing.

    I think the Fair was orchestrated by Tezz on Bolas's orders, either to get the aether flowing or to push the inventors make some cool tech for Tezz to take.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from SteamMage »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from NguyenTranLoc »
    I've only been around since RTR, so I don't know any details about the Scars of Mirrodin block and have to ask: Was there any mention of Tezzeret taking precautions against Phyrexian infection when he was there? Or is it very likely he's spreading New Phyrexia already? He has artifical body parts after all...
    I have a resources thread just for this! In Dark Discoveries he gets an innoculation against the Phyrexian Oil.


    Scary thing is, the inoculation only slows the infection. Old Tezz may be a Trojan horse. Not likely if the portal tech Rashmi made is going to be stolen for New Phirexia, but still an interesting idea.
    Still, it took decades for New Phyrexia to form, and that's on a plane that was a perfect fit for Phyrexia.

    And seriously people, you're slacking :p (Or maybe I'm just not keeping up)

    I've got some topics for you:


    Saheeli Rai, Student of Tezzeret? Discuss.
    A


    One thing I don't is clear is how long Tezzeret's been a 'Walker. He looks quite old here and given the similar pose and action in what is most likely his card and Saheeli's I could see them going that route.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from NguyenTranLoc »
    I've only been around since RTR, so I don't know any details about the Scars of Mirrodin block and have to ask: Was there any mention of Tezzeret taking precautions against Phyrexian infection when he was there? Or is it very likely he's spreading New Phyrexia already? He has artifical body parts after all...
    I have a resources thread just for this! In Dark Discoveries he gets an innoculation against the Phyrexian Oil.


    Scary thing is, the inoculation only slows the infection. Old Tezz may be a Trojan horse. Not likely if the portal tech Rashmi made is going to be stolen for New Phirexia, but still an interesting idea.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    Erm, didn't it take centuries for the oil to take effect on Mirrodin? I doubt any of that will be going down on Kaladesh.


    Mirrodin's timeline is all screwy so trying to figure how long it took New Phyrexia to become a thing is next to impossible. Plus with Mirrans being half metal already, completion could be faster than say on Elspeth's home plane.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Didn't Dack go into the Theros Underworld anyway?
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from Vorthospike »
    Quote from ThyLordQ »
    Quote from Vorthospike »


    It seems unlikely you could throw a bucket of glistening oil out a window on Kaladesh and not hit an artifact.


    True. I was thinking more long-term. "If Phyrexia gets this, then how can they use it" kind of thing. Which is why I questioned your standard Phyrexian's Organic level.


    Ah, yes, I was thinking that if (as Saheeli seems to suspect) these portals can be made to work across planes then Phyrexia could use it to spread by just randomly sending oil to lots of other worlds. Though I'm not clear what makes this telportation much different from something like teleportal.

    Probably the use of aether, instead of mana other teleport spells and artifacts use.
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    posted a message on Spring and Summer Set: Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation
    Quote from beank »
    This look SOOOO much like Stargate and I am super okay with that!


    Indeed. Plus today's story had matter transporting rings.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    Quote from pauloft »
    As for the vedalken having four arms, it's a mirrodin-only mutation, induced by blinkmoth serum. So no worries, here.


    Also the Simic vedalken thanks to biomancy
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Quote from PanteraCanes »
    Quote from SteamMage »
    Could Nahiri be a vampire now? Sorin bit her.


    I was wondering as well. Though I think they are going to go with the vampire has to do something more than feed on you to turn you. Possibly you have to drink the vampire's (or an angel's) blood.


    I have a vague memory that the Planeswalker Guide the 1st time around had a bit on that, but I can't remember the specifics, but I do think your right, there's more that just one bite.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Could Nahiri be a vampire now? Sorin bit her.
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    posted a message on Official MTG Facebook (APAC) Preview - Providence
    Is the reason the life total goes to 26 because 26 is 13 times 2?
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    posted a message on Eldritch Moon General Discussion Thread
    In all seriousness, I doubt when the rest of the Watch hear that Emrakul's on Innistrad, their first thought is going to be "Better change clothes."
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    posted a message on Eldritch Moon General Discussion Thread
    This is how the Eldrazi should have always been.
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    posted a message on Eldritch Moon General Discussion Thread
    The Helvault being capable of holding an Old Walker, one whose main skill is manipulating stone and metal, makes me question just what is up with Innistrad's moon?
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    posted a message on Emrakul or not?
    The way I figure it, Sorin made a two part system to protect Innistrad: The Helvault, a prison made of moon silver capable of locking away even old Walkers, and Avacyn, a constant warden to fight unruly visitors and lock them away.
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    posted a message on Eldritch Moon General Discussion Thread
    Quote from GuguWars »
    So, the story article is up on the mothership...
    And, well, to sum it up, it is INDEED a story about a young girl feeling betrayed by her "sensei"...
    Too bad for Nahiri, if she had stayed a bit longer , she would have witnessed the Jacetus League in action, and that would have changed everything in her mind^^


    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but The Gatewatch only beat Ulamog and Kozilik a few months prior to Sorin unmaking Avacyn. Nahiri sees Ulamog a year ago, when only Gideon is fighting.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    A good story. Minor nitpick over the use of 5000 years when at that time only 4000 had pasted but whatever. Nice to see Nahiri's coping mechanism, seems to pave the way for her connection to red mana. And it was nice to show the difference between pre and post Mending on both Walkers and the relation between planes and the Blind Eternities.
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    posted a message on Emrakul or not?
    I wouldn't mind if Nahiri's plan is to draw Emrakul to Innistrad, and needed to have Avacyn removed before She could enter, but something knackers it up, like whatever Liliana is doing with the Chain Veil. So we get the whole Eldrazi threat, without either a popular plane getting destroyed/ completely changed, or eliminating Emrakul as a player for later parts of the story.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
    I had a thought that Sorin could use that mana to empower Sigarda to be the new guardian.
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    posted a message on Kaladesh General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)
    I just can't wait for the airships. Hope we get a story about sky pirates/raiders.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
    Thought concerning the B/W angel. The Chain Veil is the vessel of the Onakke's resurrection and Liliana has a geistmage doing something with/to it. I think that may lead to the resurrection of the angel.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    Now that everyone's mostly read the article... And it's been a while since her name has come up... Anyone else think the ice story referenced Marit Lage? Something about "The truest cold had risen from the Sea."


    Could be. The art used for that song was Cover of Winter from Coldsnap.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Man this story was awesome. Tamiyo's use of stories and lore from other worlds reminds me of Jodah used Kjedor legend and history to summon a lost army in the Eternal Ice. On that note, was the song from the ice world Dominaria during the Ice Age?
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Quote from Glamdring804 »
    Quote from Tekkactus »
    The Wizards Facebook page referred to G&G as teenagers in their link to the article. That's not correct, is it? I thought they were older.


    I think they were supposed to be 18 in the original story, or something like that. They should be about 20 now.

    Honestly, this is the best Innistrad story yet. Absolutely perfect in execution, and totally hilarious. Oh how I've missed the twins. Good job Wizards. A+

    Also, did anyone else get the reference of Ludevic's last name?


    Yep I did. I also think his name is a reference to the Ludovico technique from a Clockwork Orange.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Quote from Megatron »
    Quote from SteamMage »
    Given how the Cecani siblings send letter and parsels, is anyone sad we don't have a zombie postman?

    Do you mean Geralf's Messenger?


    I can't believe I forgot about the Messenger.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Given how the Cecani siblings send letter and parsels, is anyone sad we don't have a zombie postman?
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
    Feroz's Ban kept walkers off Ulgrotha. And more mundane methods could be used. Radha stabbed Teferi in the head which disrupted his conscience and left him 'dead' for a bit.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    I think for the most part, the sets happen either one right after another or at roughly the same time. Innistrad 1 and Scars could have happened at the same time where Battle and Shadows have to happen one after the other.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
    Nahiri being locked in the Helvault does sound like that's the path they're going down. I guess being trapped there would have protected her from the Mending until the vault got opened, which would explain why she's not 100+ years in appearance.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
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    I wouldn't call that a huge hole. Lili only cared about the demon she needed to kill. Everything else is trivial detail. All kinds of crazy demons and Avacyn were also flying out of there, there was probably chaos and a lot going on.
    I get what you're saying, but if Nahiri's presumably sealed in there, it's difficult to imagine that she's one of the weak ones there. I would believe that she's the most powerful presence in Helvault. One might be distracted by all the flying nonsense that's released, but it'd be pretty hard to ignore a walker's aura.

    The way the Helvault broke opened, my detail's a little fuzzy. I wonder how they would "come out". Like bursting out like a grenade, so they'll be a little rattled and shaken, or something like merely walking out the door.

    At the same time, you'd also think Liliana would've mentioned Nahiri to Jace if she could sense her. Speaking of, who's to say they can sense each other?


    Hadn't thought of that. Who can and can't sense other PW? Maybe its just a Sorin thing. Maybe Sorin can no longer sense PW on innistrad without his creations.

    Old walkers could sense the Spark but it wasn't a sure thing. Freyalise could sense Jaya's unflared Spark, but though Jodah was the Walker. I don't think NeoWalkers have that Spark sense.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
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    This weeks story was okay, once again we get more questions then answers lol. I'm actually really excited to see more of Tamiyo characterization since she has so little lore about her (Tibalt had his origin story and a duel deck to help give insight into his character).

    I wonder though, why is Jace feeling the madness and seemingly not the other walkers (except maybe Nahiri)?

    Jace being affected by the madness more than the other 'Walkers is either because of his telepathy or him touching the crytholith.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    I think Jace's growing insanity would work better if we didn't know the general plot of the set. I find it really funny that Tamiyo writes that the crytholiths are stone shapes that manipulate mana and Jace doesn't even think of hedrons.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
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    I would note, most Eldritch Horror IS Gothic Horror, or it was at least the next evolution. They pair together really well.

    Side note: I saw on Reddit a little while back that In Garruk's Wake also has weird tentacle/vein things. I'm not saying Liliana is behind this, but it's certainly ANOTHER possibility, lol.


    Whoa, it's true. That pic has weird purple tentacles too.


    This is an interesting possibility. The Chain Veil might be powerful enough to gradually cause plane-wide corruption. Have we ever gotten an explicit description of what the Chain Veil can do?

    Not really, in my remembrance, but with the shenanigans going around the plane, it wouldn't surprise me if the Chained Veil is being affected.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
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    What I'm still wondering, is the mind magic Jace is influenced by Edgars doing (really hoping he isn't off paneled), the madness on Innistrad or, if I remember correctly Markov vampires have a talent for psychic magic, so maybe all the dying bodies there are influencing him.


    I think the Manor itself just has a kind of residual build-up of psychic effect from the millenia of use by Edgar and his brood. And probably some built-in effects they used to unsettle unprepared visitors. I didn't read this and think Jace was being affected by whatever madness is afflicting Innistrad right now; I thought that was just what Markov Manor probably is/was/had always been like Smile


    True, but why then were Jenrik's thoughts not drowned out by centuries of vampiric thoughts?


    Perhaps it stood out because it was so dramatically different form everything else?


    Could be. But I stand by the idea that the madness affecting plane caused the memories (and Jace's sensitivity to them) to be amplified.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
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    What I'm still wondering, is the mind magic Jace is influenced by Edgars doing (really hoping he isn't off paneled), the madness on Innistrad or, if I remember correctly Markov vampires have a talent for psychic magic, so maybe all the dying bodies there are influencing him.


    I think the Manor itself just has a kind of residual build-up of psychic effect from the millenia of use by Edgar and his brood. And probably some built-in effects they used to unsettle unprepared visitors. I didn't read this and think Jace was being affected by whatever madness is afflicting Innistrad right now; I thought that was just what Markov Manor probably is/was/had always been like Smile


    True, but why then were Jenrik's thoughts not drowned out by centuries of vampiric thoughts?
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    Alas poor Jenrik, we knew you so little.

    A bit jarring with the transitions but it fits the madness theme. Jace using his limited skill in telekinesis is nice. Guess Tamiyo sent Jenrik to explore the connection between Avacyn and Sorin. Since we know Nahiri blew up the Manor, her being the cause of, or facilitating, Avacyn's madness gains evidence.
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    posted a message on Tamiyo's Journal puzzle solved?
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    I don't really understand why people think Emrakul on Innistrad is lazy..

    Would people call a JTMS reprint in SoI lazy just because it's following a "Return to Zendikar." Or would they call a Snapcaster or LoTV reprint lazy just because it's "Return to Innistrad?"

    I don't get it..


    I think it's lazy story telling. While yes we don't know how Emrakul will affect a plane without outside interference, having the whole mystery angle end with her, especially right after BfZ, seems pointless. If SoI was a set or two later, I think it could work, if that's the plan.
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    posted a message on Tamiyo's Journal puzzle solved?
    Forgive me if I'm mis-remembering, but didn't one of the blurbs for the set mention something about uncovering a new threat to the Multiverse?
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    posted a message on Tamiyo's Journal puzzle solved?
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    Ugin was right.
    Too bad people predicted Emrakul much earlier.


    WotC had to predict people would guess Emrakul so if they hope it's a complete surprise they were kidding themselves. That said we may have a twist coming.
    Emrakul is only obvious to those on MTG websites looking deep into the lore and analyzing all the tiny details. This is not the average player though. It's like in Game of Thrones/A Song of Fire and Ice where the R+L=J theory is painfully obvious to anyone looking for it, but not at all for the average show watcher/book reader.


    Fair point, but anyone trying to decipher these clues/solve the mystery would also think of Emrakul. The people who would be completely surprised by these are the same people who would have missed the fact these clues are here in the first place.

    I'm wondering if Emrakul is a red herring


    I hope Emrakul is a red herring. It's too soon for her to show up, even if she isn't dealt with.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
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    absolutely loved the exchange between Liliana and Jace.

    "Nine hells, you are a reckless fool!"

    what is that? a Forgotten Realms reference? or has Liliana been to FR?


    The original Phyrexia consisted of nine layers called spheres. They were called the Nine Hells.
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    posted a message on Magic Story Articles Discussion: SOI & EMN [No Spoilers]
    An ok story. You'd think Jace would be far more careful on a world he knows very little about. Also, since his newest card has Unsummon on it, why can't he ever use a telekinetic spell to deal with threats he can't mind affect.
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    posted a message on Epiphany at the Drownyard
    This art reminds me of the Anti-Stargate weapon Anubis used on SG1.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
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    Didn't the blurb for the art guide mention some potential threat to the multiverse itself? Doesn't look like that refers to Nahiri if she's the harbinger, nor to some random sea-god since those would be plane-bound.


    "Terror falls from the skies on blood-spattered wings, and nameless horrors lurk in the shadows. These pages, lavishly illustrated with the award-winning art of Magic: The Gathering, are your entry into a world beset by terrible evils on all sides and betrayed by the hope it held most dear. Tread lightly as you follow the heroic Planeswalkers of the Gatewatch as they investigate these dark mysteries, for the nightmare they will uncover is a threat to the whole Multiverse."

    It did, but that could also be Nahiri, despite her vendetta. I mean, a terrorist cell might just be using one bomb on Innistrad, but they could have more bombs for other planes, if you know what I mean.


    This blurb, especially the 'uncover a threat' part makes me think we aren't getting Emrakul. We already know the Eldrazi are a threat. This is something new.
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    posted a message on Nahiri the Harbinger
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    Can anyone explain why this card implies "no Jace"? I feel like I'm missing something.

    Operating under the '5 Planeswalkers per block' standard, we'll have Nahiri, Sorin, and Arlin in SoI and two in EM.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
    It was never told exactly how Sorin created Avacyn right? If so this theory can go out the window, but based on the discussion so far how's this for a possibility:

    Avacyn's power was related to the direness of the human's situation. This would require some sort of thermometer function that makes Avacyn's power wax or wane based on the lifeforce of the humans on the plane. What if he measures this through the leylines of Innistrad using Cryptoliths (using knowledge gained from watching Nahiri work)? He placed these on the moon so the Demons and other evils wouldn't find it. Enter Nahiri looking for vengeance who quickly finds out the Cyptolith's location and their function (It is her expertise after all). She decides that the best way to get back at Sorin is to "reprogram" Avacyn using these Cryptoliths (See Avacyn as Sorin's Robocop who gets a virus uploaded).

    • Structural Distortion's flavor text can as such be interpreted as Nahiri saying "You let the people I cared about be killed, now I will do the same to your people" instead of "You gave my world Eldrazi, now I'll bring them to yours."
    • Avacyn's vision of the cryptoliths is the moment where the reprogramming kicks in.

    TL;DR: Avacyn is corrupted because Nahiri hacks Sorin's secret moonbase.


    We know Avacyn can hear prayers so she's somehow connected to the humans of the plane. The Moon being the observation station is a good idea. I doubt the Angels and Demons could reach the Moon, making it the perfect place for Sorin to build it.

    Of course the problem now is Sorin can't pot up to the Moon anymore.
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    posted a message on Shadows Over Innistrad General Discussion
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    I really don't know what to think about the reason why the angels (except Sigarda) have gone mad.

    The theory of Nahiri altering Avacyn's mind because the angel was "made" can make sense, but why the other angels (angels that this week story makes clear are different) are also corrupted?

    While I can understand that some art may point to Emrakul, I think the angels' corruption has nothing to do.

    Good work, WotC.


    The corruption affects other beings, the mother, Kelse, was hit with an unusual anger towards her son.
    She could not describe it, could not explain it. In a moment all her love and care had left, vanished into the growing dark, and anger had filled her fully, a lightning bolt striking her heart. And not just anger, but a seething resentment and scorn, emotions she had never felt about Maeli before. And worse, she had displayed those feelings in front of Avacyn. Avacyn, who had saved Maeli. Who had saved her.

    So it seems that the natural angels can be affected, with Avacyn's madness directing their own toward her goals.
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