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    posted a message on positive depictions of heavier-set / fat / large people in mtg?
    Unlocked, with a caveat:
    The fatty pun has been made, please don't make it again.
    Do not denigrate overweight people. Acknowledging it's not incredibly healthy is fine, but weight and obesity are very complicated subjects.
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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    Well, remember that D&D and Magic are fundamentally different games. Magic needs to follow the blocks for story, while D&D is a game about a narrative and their novels have a ton more creative freedom.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Lore spoilers from AER artbook
    Quote from JZL_Reloaded »
    Of two minds about reading the leak.

    On one hand, it's disappointing to read that, yes, the Consulate/Renegade conflict was your standard pulp/jRPG "evil empire" fare.
    Is it? I didn't get that impression at all. If anything, without Tezzeret the renegades are the bad guys.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from smashkicker »
    This story lost me when we found out that she is a fifteen year old with her own fleet of pirate ships. I mean seriously? I was willing to suspend my disbelief for a single ship but a whole fleet?
    That's the part that lost you? Not the skywhales, the telepathy, the airships, but a 15-year-old with her own fleet?
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Xul »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    With how the story unfolds, I am very afraid that the artbook is again quite innacurate.

    Baral is locked up as of the end of latest story. Jace uses his Illusionist's Stratagem, but not during the rebel attack on the Death Star Aether Spire, but now. And Baral is not the one who dispels it.


    I might be wrong here but what was so inaccurate with the Innistrad artbook? The same events took place but those from the story articles were naturally more detailed. I didn't get a chance to read it myself but I did get to read the Zendikar artbook and that one was spot on.
    The Innistrad Art Book doesn't mention anything about Emrakul sealing herself in the moon.

    In general, the art book summaries are only roughly accurate, but tend to miss a lot of details or get some flat-out wrong.
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    posted a message on positive depictions of heavier-set / fat / large people in mtg?
    Yeah this went to disappointingly predictable places. Locked.
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    posted a message on the mystery of angels and demons
    Angels tend to be the embodiment of white mana on a plane. That isn't always the case, and sometimes they are artificially created through an enchantment, or at least modified by it.

    Demons are the same, except with black mana.

    As for why not on Theros? I imagine the Nyx enchantment prevents them from forming, or uses up the mana that would go into it. As for demons? About half of them are nyxborn, the rest may just have pre-dated the gods or been co-opted by the gods.
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    posted a message on Help with Ghirapur Map?
    The Cowl runs along the river for a while.

    It's not entirely clear exactly where the main fair took place, other than in Artani Hall. Given that Liliana and Chandra's train breaks down and the conductor mentions waiting on instruction from Aradara Station, and they're near the fair at that point, it is likely nearby the Eleven Bridges.

    Quote from Pollaski »
    Isn't it also at or near the coast? The artbook mentions that the land that came to be Ghirapur was a coastal territory being warred over by many different principalities.
    It's on a river that leads to the coast, according to the artbook, not necessarily on the coast itself.
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    posted a message on Daretti, Scrap Savant - Artifact Shenanigans
    Okay, so Aether Revolt is up. It's probably time we talk about the Daretti-potential cards, right?

    Pia's Revolution seems like an auto-include. Either you're pitching it anyway with Daretti's +2, or you're getting 3 free damage in and recurring it with Daretti's -2. It's all upside.

    Scrap Trawler is another seeming auto-include, as it gives you card advantage for something you were going to do anyway, and like Pia's Revolution, you can just pitch it to Daretti's +2.

    Treasure Keeper seems handy. Except for a couple looters, anything I'd grab with this would be useful. Bonus points for it not need to be an artifact, and flavor points if you use Trash for Treasure on it. Basically, it's a sac target that ups your value.

    Servo Schematic might as well be called Servo Wellspring. Useful in that it's three artifacts for 2, which seems like a bargain, but I'm not sure it's worth the space.
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    posted a message on Weatherlight and jacetice parallel universes?
    Moved to Speculation

    There is not. There are deliberate parallels between characters both Pre- and Post-mending, but other than that they take place in the same timeline.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Oh well, Breya, a complementary product character whose six-lines description nullifies what we have known before. But you are right,if they now allow Breya create etherium, why not Tezz. Meh...
    I mean, in Alara Unbroken Esperites had found what they believed to be Carmot already. It stands to reason in the years since (in-game time) someone actually got it to work.
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    posted a message on Sharuum, Everyone's Favorite Kitty
    Universal Solvent seems like it could be handy here. It's pricey, but also infinitely renewable.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt Name and Number Crunch
    Okay, there's no room for Kari in multicolor, so she's DEFINITELY the red legend and expertise. Advika may still be a red legend, or she's competing with Surash for 127 as a multicolor.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from kolayhe »
    I thought Bolas created the Seekers of Carmot and the whole "recipe for etherium requires Carmot" was a joke he played on Tez?

    Man, it's hard to keep up when the novels get retconned all the time.
    Exactly one novel has been retconned - Test of Metal. The latest story went out of it's way to unretcon The Purifying Fire somewhat, by making Chandra's statements to gideon a fiction she made up.

    And the seekers were a trick, but not on Tezzeret. Bolas did actually know that Esper didn't have the right ingredients. Breya found the secret on her own.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Still, etherium is not aether (especially the refined Kaladeshian one), in the same sense that some minerals include water molecules in their structure, but you can hardly drink them ;-) But I can imagine it being used in adapting the device to less ideal conditions than on Kaladesh....

    And we do not know Tezzeret has access to etherium; the card suggests so with him making "etherium cells" , but last time I checked, nobody was able to produce the stuff, just remold it.
    Breya, Etherium Shaper can make it, according to her bio. Presumably Tezzeret could as well.

    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    What about the Blind Eternities?isn't it full of aether?
    There's also that.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    The real question is what was Tezzeret looking for on Kaladesh? Rashmi's invention only barely made it to the fair, he couldn't have known it would be there.


    How I see it is that he (or Bolas) had a knack that with such creative environment full of inventors and innovators, there WILL certainly be something worth, well, stealing. That it, in the end, happened to be the material transporter, was just a lucky result.

    What is more interesting for me...the Planar Bridge works on aether technology, and it could apparently work only with an immense influx of aether, and when Tezzeret activated it, the whole aethersphere of Kaladesh shook with turbulences. It almost seems like it (activating the Bridge) would be a feature achievable only on Kaladesh with its unique properties - much like no other world that the fully metallic Mirrodin could ever serve as world-sized spark transfer lab. So in the end, what use is the planar bridge core to Tezzeret? They would have to find a similar vast source of energy, if they ever want to use it. Of course, if they can use any mana...
    Aether, eh? If only there was some sort of metal infused with the stuff. An Aetherium of some sort, mayhaps. And if only Tezzeret had access to the stuff.

    trollface
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt Name and Number Crunch
    Quote from cleedude »
    Are we actually getting Nicol Bolas? It seems there should be, but with wizards i dont know what to expect anymore.
    No, Nicol Bolas will likely be in Amonkhet. He doesn't actually appear in this story.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    The real question is what was Tezzeret looking for on Kaladesh? Rashmi's invention only barely made it to the fair, he couldn't have known it would be there.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt Name and Number Crunch
    Got the Artbook today!

    Kari Zev, Skyship Raider is likely our red legend and expertise. Advika doesn't appear at all, and the Kari Zev artwork matches the one from the upcoming Magic Story.

    Other new art that sound like cards (some of the new art is clearly intended for the magic story) and my guesses.

    Aether Inspector (It's a dwarf, so white, so 03?)
    Mobile Garrison (I think it's a vehicle, so 61 or 62?)
    Chandra's Revolution (Red)
    Hinterland Drake (Blue)
    Enraged Giant (Red)
    Prizefighting Construct (Artifact, so 72)

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    posted a message on Lore spoilers from AER artbook
    Moved to Storyline

    I'm sad we're not getting a new planeshifting airship, but Tezzeret as a planar bridge is interesting. It appears he still 'won', or at least accomplished his goals.

    It's worth noting that the art book is never the full story, as we've learned several times now.
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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    I think the Gatewatch is less of an issue than the overall unevenness in the story. I think the block change, plus the move to a more serialized story, created some chaos that's only starting to come together. They definitely need more character building moments, and there's a bit of an issue with characterizations feeling a little flat in general, but specific stories like Homesick have been really fun to read. The first year being all Eldrazi didn't help either.

    The main issue, I think, is with the limited space they have portraying complexity is hard. I think the more we see the dynamics of the Gatewatch characters as they conflict with one another, the better the story will be. The story, I believe, has been steadily improving since BFZ, with Kaladesh being mostly good and Aether Revolt looking to be on track there too.
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    posted a message on SJW - Just A Pejoritive
    Quote from MTGTCG2 »
    Alright, so some mod whose username starts with Os just banned me for sharing an opinion he disagrees with on the freaking Debate subforum, how ironic... Anyways also included in this pdf- https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj25OTM6J7RAhVM_IMKHRp4DGg4FBAWCBwwAQ&usg=AFQjCNErXuVhviT5l4dQn2fGsTxVeqyLzw&sig2=tpBiTB0kHGRw5_tmT8uWew is the fact that a study concluded that the average IQ of the children of wealthy black parents was shown to be lower than the average IQ of the children of poor white parents. There is so much more in that PDF but I believe I have highlighted many of the main points.
    Shocking: Study funded by racist group (Pioneer Fund) turns up results that reinforce their beliefs.

    So-called "Race Realists" tend to exist only to reinforce the supposed superiority of the white race. I'm sorry if I don't take the studies from a group whose origins were working with Nazi Germany's eugenics program seriously.

    Quote from MTGTCG2 »
    Also some more things that are bad about SJWs are that they support Islam, a violent, intolerant, homophobic, and mysogynistic ideology that supports many of the things that SJWs claim to be against.
    Christianity is all of those things too - But I support and individuals right to be Christian.

    Gotta love when people say 'Muslim' when they mean 'Arab'. And yes, the United States has been propping up a lot of those regimes that institutionalize this stuff for decades, thanks for mentioning it.

    Quote from MTGTCG2 »
    They also support the BLM movement which influences the killing of cops and organizes riots which cause great property damage and violence, all because of the few times that a cop supposedly shot an unarmed black man and because of the other times that cops shot a black person that was supposedly innocent but upon examination of the evidence was clearly a threat to innocent people.
    Yeah, no. The overwhelming majority of BLM protests are peaceful. There are a few that get out of hand, but it's important to note they're a decentralized group. SOME BLM groups (which are largely organized at the community level) are more overzealous than others. Half the time, it's just other black people who also happen to be protesting, but we can't expect people to tell the difference, can we? (/sarcasm)

    Quote from MTGTCG2 »
    Edit: How am I posting hate? In no way am I advocating for the mistreatment of any group of individuals, I am only arguing against the narratives and beliefs of the SJWs.
    "Not Advocating Hate." Quotes Nazi sympathizers. Okay.
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    posted a message on Daretti, Scrap Savant - Artifact Shenanigans
    Quote from Guerte »
    Planar Bridge and Paradox Engine.

    Thoughts?
    I don't know what Paradox Engine would do for Daretti that Unwinding Clock doesn't. It's strong, sure, but there's only so much mana we can spend at one time.

    Planar Bridge looks like a fun card, but it's a lot of mana for things we can do in other ways, you know?
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Quote from dEATHdEALER »
    long long time goblin player here... played gobs in Every format except EDH.. thx for the primer and any changes yet? also I have ALOT of artifacts in my meta was thinking of adding a goblin tinker some where .. still trying to get a few more cards ...(didnt relise i traded away all 4 of my mogg catchers..
    I've added Grenzo, Havoc Raiser (Swapping for Tormenting Voice), but just realized I didn't update my list! Sorry about that. Kaladesh didn't have anything for me to add, and neither did C16 - although Goblin Spymaster is definitely worth a look.

    Grenzo is just awesome, basically a Bident of Thassa in this deck. He also adds a deck-out win con to this deck.

    As for Goblin Tinker, are they a lot of low cost artifacts? Otherwise I'm not sure how much Tinker will help.
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    posted a message on Star Wars: Rogue One
    Quote from Verbal »
    Quote from Raver »
    Quote from Jay13x »

    Krennic doesn't really feel like the 'bad guy' in this film. He seems to only get yelled at, and I'm not entirely sure what he's doing on Scarif at the end, other than having a confrontation with the rebels.


    Krennic was just a relatively small cog in the machine. That's what I enjoyed is that both sides felt real despite it being very much sci-fi, Krennic felt like that guy in upper management who isn't quite the CEO so he was still susceptible to being reprimanded by his superiors. Despite that, I have a modicum of respect for his character as he actually makes an effort to solve problems himself instead of delegating to someone below him. He goes to Galen's research facility personally to find the traitor and then upon learning Galen himself was the traitor made the trip to Scarif where archive of transmissions was held to review Galen's comms. It just so happens that the archives contains blueprints and other sensitive materials which the R1 team was after.

    Tarkin and Leia were too uncanny valley for me. They should have kept those faces off-screen as much as possible, and we didn't need nearly as much Tarkin as we got (for instance, have him facing the window and just have the face as a reflection). Similarly, the archival footage they used for some pilots was a bit jarring, as the video/audio quality wasn't as good.


    I get that perspective, but I personally liked them fully embracing the characters instead of doing more cameoesque appearances. I suppose it's a stylistic preference.

    EVERYONE dying kind of sucked. I mean, it was kind-of expected, given any survivors would have been getting medals, too, but still.


    Another stylistic choice I suppose. I really do enjoy that grittiness in my narratives.

    I don't understand why the Empire destroyed Scarif. Aren't there a lot of plans there that they need? Over a few rebels, whose fleet they're already taking care of?


    If I recall correctly, Tarkins ordered it because it killed two birds with one stone. He could wipe out the compromised base and kill Krennic to take over the Death Star because he learned Krennic was on the Scarif base at that time.

    Tantive IV in the Rebel Flagship was a cool scene that didn't make much sense. There were other Corellian Corvettes in the fleet fighting, they just had it hiding? Once the high of that amazing third act wore off, this one fridge logic'd me.


    Yeah I remember reading some uproar over how they handled that particular transition to New Hope. The best that I saw in attempting to explain it was that the ship was carrying diplomats (like Leia) and so that ship was kept as a dead man's switch of sorts where if the Empire destroyed that ship, it would cause an uproar and turn people against the Empire even more.

    The Tantive bugged the hell out of me. You can achive the same narative end (the handoff of the plans) by having someone jump into an escape ship of whatever kind and jump to intercept Leia.

    because otherwise them being above tatooine makes no sense. SW FTL doesn't require dropping out of hyperspace, so why are they above tatooine at all? Whereas if someone intercepted Leia while she was on her way to contact Kenobi, that kinda works. Plus claiming it as a diplmoatic mission when they damn well know you've just come from a massive space battle is...dumb at best.

    Similarly bumping into 'death sentence in 12 systems' was kinda dumb, if they were meant to be the same two guys, because they have to leave Jedah more-or-less immediately and go to tatooine as well for...more or less no apparent reason...to be killed by obi like 4 days later.

    They're above Tatooine because part 2 of the plan is to get Ben Kenobi's help.
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    posted a message on Tezzeret the Schemer
    Quote from Lord_Mektar »
    The fact the token created bay the +1 have to tap + sacrifice is tough.
    Why? I'm genuinely curious. Outside of Quicksmith Rebel and Malfunction (and honestly, who is going to use Malfunction on the token), there isn't a whole lot of relevance and it mimics Lotus Petal nicely.


    It's to make sure he isn't stupidly broken with Improvise cards. The tokens would make two mana each in that case.

    I completely forgot about improvise, thanks!
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    posted a message on Tezzeret the Schemer
    Quote from Lord_Mektar »
    The fact the token created bay the +1 have to tap + sacrifice is tough.
    Why? I'm genuinely curious. Outside of Quicksmith Rebel and Malfunction (and honestly, who is going to use Malfunction on the token), there isn't a whole lot of relevance and it mimics Lotus Petal nicely.


    It's to make sure he isn't stupidly broken with Improvise cards. The tokens would make two mana each in that case.

    I completely forgot about improvise, thanks!
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    posted a message on Tezzeret the Schemer
    A lot of players including me, doesn´t ever look at the numbers of a card, so I can see why some people would be confused. I too think they need to find a better way of showing which of them belong to what set and why not do it with a different symbol to represent the Planeswalker deck and the actual deck, in this case Kaladesh
    But there are two potential confusions here. People could be confused about why there are two Tezzerets, which is fair but also not particularly important to anything. The second is where they can play each Tezzeret. By giving it the Aether Revolt symbol, they're indicating it's legal for anything Aether Revolt is legal in.

    Compare to when they didn't do this, and had standard legal cards with their own set symbol. No one actually knew if they could play them.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Star Wars: Rogue One
    Quote from Raver »
    So I figured i'd kickstart the movie discussion post release because i've been thinking about the movie for a full day now. Spoiler alerts obviously.

    Honestly I have nothing but praise for this movie. I wasn't expecting much since it was a spin-off type movie but this blew me away. Not only was it entertaining (as all SW films generally go) but it was actually well directed for the most part in my eyes. Obviously there are nitpicks here and there but generally speaking, everything was right where it should've been.

    Despite the team not being nearly roguish as the title might imply, the rag tag team of misfits and weirdos was everything the movie Suicide Squad wanted to be but couldn't pull off smoothly. The nitpick that I have and apparently a lot of people shared was that the first act was a little off where they tried to introduce half of the R1 team via jumping from planet to planet but felt choppy. Either way, not a huge problem in a movie of this nature. Aside from that, the things I enjoyed

    • The cheese was kept to a minimal which I liked and the grittiness of R1 was a nice addition to the franchise that generally doesn't welcome it with open arms. People died, villains and heroes alike, I was absolutely floored that the whole R1 team died in a Saving Private Ryan esque fashion. I knew for sure someone would die but I didn't know GRRM was feeding the screenwriters hypnotic suggestions. A wonderful touch to show how weak the rebels were in comparison and gave me flashbacks to Saving Private Ryan and Halo: Reach.
    • The stakes were high and there was a lot of uncertainty. The force was a huge plot armor in previous titles that kept the good guys safe whereas in this movie, the only semblance of the force making an appearance was through Chirrut (Donnie Yen) who was force sensitive but did not have access to the full range of abilities that Jedi's have.
    • It actually felt like Star Wars. In the third act especially, it just felt right with two warring factions armed with good ol spaceships and blasters and both sides could actually aim them correctly.
    • Easter egg galore. So many that I found myself in awe and laughing at times. Callbacks to A New Hope with Jyn bumping into two familiar faces in the Jedha streets who will eventually bump into Luke in Mos Eisley. The other was the rebel pilots who did their comm check ins with red 5 conveniently dying in the battle Grin
    • Franchise casting was on point. Genevieve O'Reilly as Mon Mothma finally got her chance to shine in this movie and familiar faces like Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa. James Earl Jones as Vader's voice. Swoons
    • Some people didn't like the CGI Tarkins and Leia but I thought they were incredibly realistic (Tarkins slightly less) but it was nuts and I did a double take when they first appeared as I wondered if they actually managed to find someone that looks strikingly as young Carrie Fisher and Peter Cushing.
    • The Vader fanservice was real. I thought his cameo in the middle of movie was all we're going to get but he came back in the end and really delivered the scene that showcased why the galaxy should be afraid of him. A beautiful, haunting, and brutal slaughterfest but was much needed. Plus his dad joke when choking Krennic made me laugh especially considering he actually is a father during that time.
    • Speaking of humor, I liked that Gareth Edwards didn't abuse it or completely leave it out but found a good middleground. K2SO was a standout and did what Jar Jar could never do: be endearing. I really enjoyed the delivery of the jokes especially in the case of Donnie Yen as he exclaims that he is already blind when they go to blindfold him.
    • Despite being vastly inferior to the Starkiller base in TFA, the Death Star had a much bigger impact and actually struck fear. The test fire on Jedha and the Scarif shot both showed the raw power of the weapon from the point of view of those who it was fired on and drove the narrative and the characters as the R1 team definitely felt the urgency of stopping the weapon after witnessing and experiencing firsthand its destructive capabilities

    Whew, that was a lot of disjointed thoughts but that about covers it all. Thinking on it, I felt like I really enjoyed the tone and style of this movie and Gareth Edwards definitely deserves accolades for this despite being a standalone film. In all honesty, when compared to TFA, I would take R1 over that in a heartbeat.
    I agree with most of this. I really liked the movie. That said:
    • Krennic doesn't really feel like the 'bad guy' in this film. He seems to only get yelled at, and I'm not entirely sure what he's doing on Scarif at the end, other than having a confrontation with the rebels.
    • Tarkin and Leia were too uncanny valley for me. They should have kept those faces off-screen as much as possible, and we didn't need nearly as much Tarkin as we got (for instance, have him facing the window and just have the face as a reflection). Similarly, the archival footage they used for some pilots was a bit jarring, as the video/audio quality wasn't as good.
    • Would rather have spent more time with Krennic being a legitimate threat than constantly getting berated by his superiors.
    • EVERYONE dying kind of sucked. I mean, it was kind-of expected, given any survivors would have been getting medals, too, but still.
    • I liked the Rebels cameos, at least we know that Hera (or maybe her father?) survive, as does Chopper. I completely missed Chopper's Cameo, though.
    • The two angry cantina patrons whose names escape at the moment were a bit much. Like, they would have had to just barely survive Jedha, then go to Tatooine and happen to meet up with the Death Star plans again?
    • I don't understand why the Empire destroyed Scarif. Aren't there a lot of plans there that they need? Over a few rebels, whose fleet they're already taking care of?
    • Tantive IV in the Rebel Flagship was a cool scene that didn't make much sense. There were other Corellian Corvettes in the fleet fighting, they just had it hiding? Once the high of that amazing third act wore off, this one fridge logic'd me.
    • Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa was great.
    Overall I'd say it was a fantastic movie, hampered by some dodgy effects and a some narrative bending to get it to fit into A New Hope nicely.
    Posted in: Movies
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    posted a message on Tezzeret the Schemer
    It really annoys me that they use the same symbol on the planeswalker deck as in the set. How are we to know which one is which? In eight years, no one will remember.

    Some kid in the future: "What? I have two Tezzerets from the same set, but they're different cards! It must be some rare misprint!
    Why would that be? They've got different numbers. The Tezzeret at 190/184 is pretty obviously the one not part of the main set. Besides which, conservation of set symbol space is important, it's a very tiny space to keep coming up with new, distinguishable designs for. I'd rather they use the main set symbol it goes with than invent a new one for 10 cards.

    Nevertheless, I like the card. I think niche walkers do more for the game than generically good ones.
    I agree, I'd rather interesting or unique over obvious.

    The fact the token created bay the +1 have to tap + sacrifice is tough.
    Why? I'm genuinely curious. Outside of Quicksmith Rebel and Malfunction (and honestly, who is going to use Malfunction on the token), there isn't a whole lot of relevance and it mimics Lotus Petal nicely.

    Quote from The Fluff »
    Oh, so Tezz can make Etherium now? Not really keeping up with the story.. but has he always had this ability in the novels?
    Test of Metal had him learn it, but based on his recent appearances that novel has been retconned (his anger management issues were removed by Bolas reviving him in the novel).

    But given that Breya exists, it's likely he figured it out anyway.
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    posted a message on America, The Polarized Society
    Quote from Highroller »
    *Sigh* Ok, so we already had a thread on SJWs, but this bears repeating.

    SJW, or Social Justice Warrior, is generally used to describe a type of person, usually an internet user found on Twitter or tumblr, who has views on racism, sexism, or identity politics that is completely irrational. This irrationality may be seen in this person seeking discrimination that isn't actually there, having illogical views on said discrimination, having illogical views on what constitutes a sensible response to said discrimination, or a combination of all three. These people absolutely are ridiculous, and at times are outright racist themselves.

    However, a problem occurs when you have people who then go ahead and attempt to lump anyone who makes any claim in a discussion about discrimination contrary to their own under the term "SJW," including when said people are being entirely rational. This is the trap we can run into with the use of the term SJW.
    No, SJW is defined by whatever the user thinks it means. It's frequently applied to any progressive stance. It's a useless term.

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    I'm not sure you realize how much you are showing your own bias here. Imagine a devout muslim questioned about homosexuality. To this person, it is a sin that is ugly and inexcusable. That doesn't necessarily mean he or she would also wish to partake in or even support persecution or even actual violence against homosexuals. It will be the same with white nationalists. They can support programs from reduced government support to increased enforced assimilation to deportation to actual ethnic cleansing. You're all lumping them together because they do not want government to enforce this particular sort of equality, which you agree with.
    White Nationalism wants to make my family second class citizens. Yes, I'm biased against them. White nationalism, by definition, wants a white nation. At the very least (and least disgusting), someone who identifies as a white nationalist wants whites to have all the political power.

    The very fact that this has to be explained to you means the Overton Window has shifted too far.

    White Nationalists want inherent inequality, with a group having power simply because they were born pale.

    A "SJW", by contrast, could have a host of different policy goals.

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    What's the critical difference you're suggesting here? I think the great similarity is that both groups have defined an evil other that they can righteously fight. The naive, ignorant, lowlife, evil SJW or bigot.
    You could boil any argument down to this. Do you believe White Nationalists have a fair point?

    "Being born white does seem like a great indicator of who belongs and who doesn't."

    Agree or Disagree?

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    Some of them do fear this, but that is not the point: you're focusing on the most extreme points of view again, which only serves to polarize others to those extremes. White nationalists can want anything from extermination, to sterilization, to deportation, to deregulation, to more specific rules of assimilation, to reduced tolerance of other cultural peculiarities and so on. I'm sure you too can think of a whole bunch of reasons why you would wish to remove a certain type of people from power or society, or wish to make them change (some of) their ways.
    What's a non-extreme white nationalist point of view?

    Why is it wrong to focus on their state goal: a white nation, but not wrong to focus on the extreme views of some people are referred to as "SJW"?

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    Besides, "SJW" is a group that you're defining as having the same agenda, which is rarely the case. White Nationalists share the same rhetoric and goals (an America with only whites, or with whites in power)

    You are clearly contradicting yourself here. There is a lot of difference between only whites and only whites in power. And that is not an exhaustive classification.
    They're equally reprehensible.

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    , whereas Feminism is just one movement of many lumped into "SJW", and one that's not even cohesive within itself. I'd hardly call that a fair comparison. If one person wants ethnic cleansing, and one person wants fairness, they're not the same just because they both say mean things.

    Do you seriously think that is a fair juxtaposition?
    Do you? You seem really defensive of an ideology that, at it's most basic, wants to disenfranchise people based solely on ethnic characteristics.

    And seem to equate people that want that to not happen as equally bad.

    Quote from Mad Mat »
    Now, to be blunt, of course everyone is racist. It's not okay for a black person to be anti-semetic or homophobic, and it's something rarely talked about. There are plenty of feminists who, frankly, don't know what they're talking about. But acting like that's equivalent to White Nationalism's agenda? That's not even close.
    What is the difference, then? Numbers? If so, then at what threshold black supremacism would become a problem? And how do you explain that to the gay guy who got bullied out of his appartment by Turkish immigrants that his grief is not even close to the grief of the racism these immigrants suffer? You know, without nudging him towards supporting the extremists that more closely ressemble the strawmen you keep bringing up?
    I think you're thinking we're having a different argument than we're having. First of all, you don't get to use 'Strawmen' if you think 'SJW' is a reasonable term. Because it's inherently meaningless and solely exists to portray all progressive/liberal platforms as the same irrational nonsense.

    Second, 'black supremacy' or anything like it is also reprehensible nonsense. I don't know why you think that. The problem here is the word SJW, which is used equally on the 'irrationals', as they've been called here, but also on basically any progressive as well. SJW is a perfect attack term because it basically means nothing, but smears everyone.

    Quote from joandeMRA »
    Deciding that America is TOO WHITE and working to create a totalitarian solution that tramples fundamental rights while creating a hierarchy based on race etc., hatred towards people based on their skin color, gender, other accident of birth traits etc. is not morally superior or profound because you call it social justice and sell it with buzzwords like equality.

    White supremacists are not less moral then SJWs!
    What does this even mean?

    Look, no one has decided America is 'too white' except idiots. The reality, if you pay even a little bit of attention, is that people who aren't white men have been historically - and currently - disenfranchised for a wide variety of reasons. Saying 'Olly Olly Equal Rights' doesn't magically undue years of systemic racism.

    The solutions, however, are quite different. One aims to disenfranchise based on race. The other wants you not to be able to do that, and to help fix the problems it's caused over the years.

    It's amazing to watch disaffected white males get radicalized by this nonsense to the point where people legitimately can't see the difference between those two positions.
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    posted a message on America, The Polarized Society
    Quote from Ljoss »

    Not to mention, both sides view on racism; SJW pretend Racism is some sort of proplem that is exclusive to non-white people, and that human value is weighted according not only to your preference, but with what ethnicity you identify with. On the other hand the advocates of freedom say racism is almost non existant (or doesn't exists anymore) while fighting for the right to make offensive jokes and sicrarding every argument on it.


    I relate and I don't know where the sensible middle ground has gone on race.***

    ***which is not to say that something being a middle ground or a moderate position necessarily makes it right, but I think in this case.

    When talking about race here, I mostly spend my time going after the SJWs. I figure that's because this forum can be very left. But I've been on right-wing forums and I'll come across the other way. The thing with the SJWs and race/gender is that they say things that are fundamentally appalling, things that I would recoil at if a white or male friend said them about women or a non-white group. But when they say these disgusting, hateful things, it is not considered racist---and, prejudice + power nonsense aside, these things are not even considered wrong. For a sample, one might google the SJW vs. Stormfront game and see how similar the rhetoric of SJWs and white nationalists really is or what happens when you replace all instances of "men" with "black people" in the words of a feminist SJW or when Buzzfeed celebrates presentations with titles like "white people are a plague to the planet," "white people are crazy" or "white people are dangerous," etc.
    The funny thing here is, you say you don't where the middle ground on race is, but that's because you're moving the Overton Window without even realizing it. You're normalizing an ideology that wants really ugly, inexcusable things because people who want equality also sometimes use ugly language. But they're not remotely the same.

    Comparing "SJWs" to White Nationalists is absurd. White nationalists want the US to be a 'white nation', for white people. "SJWs" want their groups to be treated fairly and equitably, and frame their arguments in terms of the dominant power. Sometimes that results in stupid articles like 'White people are a plague to the planet', but there is no concerted movement to remove white people from America or make white people second class citizens like the White Nationalists want to do to others.

    Besides, "SJW" is a group that you're defining as having the same agenda, which is rarely the case. White Nationalists share the same rhetoric and goals (an America with only whites, or with whites in power), whereas Feminism is just one movement of many lumped into "SJW", and one that's not even cohesive within itself. I'd hardly call that a fair comparison. If one person wants ethnic cleansing, and one person wants fairness, they're not the same just because they both say mean things.

    Now, to be blunt, of course everyone is racist. It's not okay for a black person to be anti-semetic or homophobic, and it's something rarely talked about. There are plenty of feminists who, frankly, don't know what they're talking about. But acting like that's equivalent to White Nationalism's agenda? That's not even close.
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    posted a message on Gatewatch 16
    Dack and Karn seem likely, as does Koth (supposing he gets help with New Phyrexia).
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    I really, really hope that Tezzeret ends up having been plotting against Bolas the whole time. It would be so funny and ironic when the Gatewatch find out that they actually hurt their own cause by stopping him. Pretty much every block after RTR has ended in a "victory" for the hero(es) but with serious consequences, so it's definitely possible.
    Edit: Crap, I forgot this was no-spoiler discussion. Anyway, I agree.
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    posted a message on Characters you want or expect to see as cards in Aether Revolt?
    Maro confirmed that there is no UR artifact legend in this block. Which is some of the most ridiculous ignorance about what player's want that I've ever seen from a company that usually has such good communication with players. People have already gotten upset twice when they had perfect opportunities (Origins and C15) and failed. You would think that they would learn their lesson.
    I never saw any demand for a UR Artifacts-Matter Planeswalker until after Origins. RG Werewolf? Sure. Remember, when Origins came out Kaladesh block was already done, or too far along to change things. Before Reclusive Artificer in Origins, there wasn't even a RU card that cared about artifacts.

    Heck, before C14, there weren't enough Red Artifacts-Matter cards to care.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Ajani is the only (living) protagonist from previous stories. It makes sense that he would join the Gatewatch.

    I hope that Saheeli joins up too because she has been criminally underused in the story comsidering that she was the face of Kaladesh. We don't really even know enough about her personality for me to decide if I want to see her every block. But she can't be any more boring and one-dimensional than most of the Gatewatch, right?
    Yeah, I really want more of Saheeli. Arlinn Kord got a lot of good characterization in SOI despite being basically separate from the plot. Saheeli is entwined with the main plot, but I don't feel like I've got a good sense of who she is yet.
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    posted a message on Characters you want or expect to see as cards in Aether Revolt?
    The Aether Revolt site has some characters listed. I've attached screens.

    Mitul would be blue, wouldn't he? He's a Vedalken.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from Perkunas687 »
    Saheeli and Tezzeret strike me more as if Chandra and Jaya Ballard met up. Others might be more in the know to their specific powers, though, so this opinion isn't set in stone.
    I mean, her art and Tezz's art being so mirrored does make this seem likely.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from RaltheMad »
    Really disappointed with this one. Tezzeret acted like a five year old that had hia favourite toy taken away from him. This is the man who stole the consortium? This is the man who trained Jace and beat him?
    This is the man who lost the consortium too, don't forget. Who lost horribly to Jace. Who couldn't handle the pressure Bolas started exerting on his organization and started taking out his stress on his subordinates.

    While I agree his portrayal in this felt a little one dimensional, the Gatewatch arriving and interfering with his plans puts pressure on him, pressure he showed in AoA he couldn't handle well. He was very much in character for 'Tezzeret stressed out and no longer feeling on top of things'.
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    posted a message on What is between Nicol Bolas' Horns?
    Necro Thread Locked.
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    posted a message on Répression du Consulat (Consulate Crackdown) - Facebook France community manager
    Given that it's #11, I'm going with Consulate Repression, as that fits better in the number crunch. Unless there are a whole lot of cards starting with S-Z (which I doubt) I think it's the better assumption.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from ChrisBP7 »

    I still believe "The Bridge" is the portal itself. The question is, why is Tezzeret building one? Not for Bolas himself, that's for sure (why would the dragon need that?). Also I might be mistaken, but what if Dark Intimations actually depicts Tezzerets plans failing... plans which were actually against Bolas himself? That's why the flavor text of Battle at the Bridge doesn't seem to be threatening the Gatewatch or Kaladesh directly, Tezzeret wants to somehow use the portal against Bolas (he tried to revolt in Test of Metal as well (and I know that ones canonicity is in question)). The Gatewatch might actually win the fight against him... and then realize that the only one they helped by doing so was Nicol Bolas. That would be a nice twist in my opinion. But of course I could be entirely wrong.


    I thought the art of Dark Intimation was that Tezzeret was building a Bolas clone to use against Bolas. But Tezzeret failing because of the Gatewatch would give reason to have the next set be on Bolas's home plane.


    Dark Intimation - meaning clues or hints, not Dark Imitation, meaning copy.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Ajduk »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    I just had a MAJOR epiphany, people.

    Battle at the Bridge isn't referring to a Bridge like goes over water, OR the portal.

    It's Skysovereign's bridge! Tezzeret is building a new Weatherlight! That explains why the Gatewatch needs Heart of Kiran.


    RIP Weatherlight 2.0
    Still collecting dust in Venser's workshop.
    Alone and forgotten.
    Ha! Yeah...

    Although to be fair, Venser was building Predator 2.0 :p
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    I just had a MAJOR epiphany, people.

    Battle at the Bridge isn't referring to a Bridge like goes over water, OR the portal.

    It's Skysovereign's bridge! Tezzeret is building a new Weatherlight! That explains why the Gatewatch needs Heart of Kiran.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from SimicNuggets »
    Some just are not very good at evaluating/ or predicting the story.

    As for what is new, ....that's a portal behind Tezzeret in Battle at the Bridge, right? Maybe it's just what he needed to bring Draco Bolas to Amonkhet? His flavor text quote ain't all that sinister even, seems like he's got a conflict in mind with someone else...

    (don't get me started on the purple/tentacly silhouettes though)
    Great catch! I did NOT notice that. I guess 'The Bridge' is the name of the Portal, I was thinking it took place on one of the bridges around Aradara station or something.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Ajduk »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Three out of four known cards hint at really NOT positive development for the good guys. I was wondering what the heck is Ajduk talking about Smile

    I wonder what exactly is meant to be going on Dark Intimations....except of it all being a huge callback to Cruel Ultimatum, including the metal mimicking the silhouette of Bolas's horns and the person depicted being Tezzeret.

    And yeah, Tezz looks pretty diabolic at the Battle card. Definitely better than his PW deck version art.


    Pia's Revolution heavily hints on Pia saving the day.
    If Pia dies in the process I honestly wouldn't see it as something negative. At first I was hoping that Tezzeret kills her in a way that scars
    Chandra for life and adds a second dimension to her one dimensional character, but if Pia ends up sacrificing herself for the bigger picture
    that will make Chandra even worse...full of determination just like her mom was...even more cocky and me regretting even more that the Creative
    didn't have the balls to make Ugin just eat her when she talked back at him like an edgy teenager.

    Disallow's ''negative'' vibe is meaningless since Gatewatch members are immune to death via plot armor so I wouldn't count it as a negative development.
    We know that Chandra and the guy with the best title ever need to face off eventually and that it has to be dramatic because their confrontation is a big
    deal for her character development (I admit, I laughed a bit while writing those last two words).

    Battle at the Bridge hints at nothing really other than the already expected confrontation against Tezzeret.

    Hearth of Karn...sorry...Kiran is probably what will end up saving the day. It doesn't look like a doomsday machine to me.

    Dark Intimations is the card which heavily hints that something quite bad is about to happen. It indeed is the one truly negative hint.
    The key factor in it hinting at a negative ending is whether it happens before or after Pia's Revolution.

    I still like the story, though!

    I'm glad that we won't be seeing phyrexia being defeated here on Kaladesh. That was my biggest concern. I will take Bolas losing twice in
    back to back blocks over the pyrexia losing on a plane filled with artifacts only if we finally get some explanation and what has he
    been doing all this time and why?

    Now, onto something more important...who is the standing figure in the art of Dark Intimations. It doesn't look like Tezzeret to me.
    the story spotlights are numbered, so:
    Unknown Event 1
    Pia's Revolution
    Disallow
    Battle at the Bridge
    Dark Intimations

    It's looking like there will be some sparking event, then Pia leads the revolution, Chandra confronts Baral, the Gatewatch confront Tezzeret, and they fail, with Tezzeret's plan coming to fruition.

    Dark Intimation does seem like it's Tezzeret. It's his jacket, gray/white hair, and if you look close you can see the etherium arm.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Daretti, Scrap Savant - Artifact Shenanigans
    Quote from Guerte »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    I like it a lot. For just three mana, you're going to be getting at least a trigger a turn. Either you're getting card advantage from it, or you're getting damage in.


    It definitely has a lot of synergy in here. I dislike that it's not an artifact tho. Lol.

    I'm kinda nervous about this set. On one hand, I'm hoping we get a lot of goodies in here. On the other hand, what if we DO get a lot of goodies? Cuts are already hard to make, not sure if I can do it anymore! Lol.
    Thats good though! I want more than one 'right' way to build Daretti!

    Lots of goodies means red artifacts finally ha a ton of diversity.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Ajduk »
    Spotlights were leaked but other than ''good guys win again'' I didn't really managed to get anything important out of them.

    edit: Ignore, I didn't bother to read what the cards do XD
    Well, thank you for not editing out your initial statement. I had a good chuckle Smile

    I've been telling people... patience. I'm looking forward to Tezzeret crushing the Gatewatch.
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    posted a message on Daretti, Scrap Savant - Artifact Shenanigans
    I like it a lot. For just three mana, you're going to be getting at least a trigger a turn. Either you're getting card advantage from it, or you're getting damage in.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from AliasBot »
    Of note, Sram appeared on flavortext in Kaladesh: Fumigate and Wayward Giant. The rest seem to be entirely new.

    Also, In the Dead of the Night was apparently one of the stories that got a Story Spotlight card - the AER Story page has updated to include Magic card backs attached to the pages of the stories that have tie-in cards, and it was one of them - though it's not Yahenni's Expertise, which had its "normal" version revealed and doesn't have the "Story Spotlight" label on it. I don't think Yahenni themself would rate a Story Spotlight card if Pia Nalaar wasn't one, so...I'm not sure what part of the story is getting a spotlight.

    (If the AER Story page is accurate, the set has 9 stories, and the other stories with tie-in cards are #4, #5, #8, and #9 - which, if my math is right, means that only the last two stories will be revealed after their corresponding cards, as opposed to Kaladesh's three: Deadlock Trap, Fateful Showdown, and Confiscation Coup. Which, hopefully, means that slightly less story will be spoiled by the cards, though the big conclusion is still in the same situation.)
    Interesting. I hope the time is used a bit more speedily than with Kaladesh, which was on a bit of a slow burn.
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    posted a message on Was there a R/G god before Xenagos?
    There was not a Red-Green god, at least as far as we know. Temple of Abandon is referring to the noun definition of Abandon: "complete lack of inhibition or restraint.", which is perfect for the Satyr. It's a hint at what Xenagos was trying to do.
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    posted a message on The Repeal of the ACA
    Quote from Frostdragon4 »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    [quote from="Highroller »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/community-forums/debate/764185-the-repeal-of-the-aca?comment=9"][quote from="Jay13x »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/community-forums/debate/764185-the-repeal-of-the-aca?comment=4"]

    Other than that, I honestly haven't kept up on what's going on enough to offer better suggestions.


    Write your congressmen.

    Voting isn't the biggest thing, it's continual communication and pressure on the largest issues. These people do read their mail and do respond. Pick out the specifics, and use those specifics to your advantage. Not just "angry letter, I want this" rather think through and connect to a narrative and some of the aspects of these people.
    I meant in terms of policy. I studied health policy back when the ACA was first proposed (the initial version were even worse). I haven't been following national health trends enough to give anything more specific right now, I'd have to go do some more research. The ACA has had a mixed effect on the healthcare system overall, but news media reports tend to just focus on Insurance premiums, which are not really a good indicator of overall costs. Mostly because their health provider negotiations are secret, so we don't even know what prices they've negotiated.

    Costs in healthcare are so absurdly invisible, healthcare providers in a hospital couldn't tell you exactly how much their services cost much of the time. This is why trying to treat healthcare (in its current state in the US) like a free market is ridiculous, because basic tenants of economics depend on the consumer having (a) a choice and (b) knowledge of the cost of that choice.

    But that's a whole other rant, not directly related to the ACA but important as a consideration for any kind of healthcare reform.
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    posted a message on Storyline Dissapointment
    Quote from Bhogal83 »
    I'm basing my numbers on the number of people who view and post in the story subforum, relative to the forum in general. The Magic story threads may be the most trafficked ever, but that's only because the player base is at its largest ever.
    View and post is not the same as total traffic. There are plenty of people casually interested who only come to view. And the internet has evolved, MTGS's storyline subforum used to be the place to come to talk story. Now it's divided between MTGS, Reddit, Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook.

    Quote from Bhogal83 »
    What a strange thing to say. You're essentially saying that it is never worth trying again what you once failed at. You also make a bizarre assumption that "Magic players only want to buy cards" which is unsupported by any evidence. Your last sentence is also unsubstantiated.
    You don't get to use the 'unsubstatiated' card when everything you've been saying is based entirely on your own opinion of the quality of the story. You're welcome to dislike the story, as long as you keep it civil, but I'm also going to call you out when you confuse your subjective opinion with objective fact.
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    posted a message on Storyline Dissapointment
    Quote from Bhogal83 »
    I personally think it's good that Creative haven't been releasing so many stories; in my opinion they should stop telling stories altogether. They've been trying to get MTG players interested in their new, lazily written, corporate-driven "vision" of the story for a while now, and, judging from the attendance figures of this subforum, very few players have taken the bait. At this point Wizards is just wasting money churning out this pulp.
    What? The story is more popular than ever. What numbers are you basing this on, because the 'Magic Story' threads are our most trafficked basically ever.

    Quote from Bhogal83 »
    Instead of writing long pieces filled with the Power Rangers winking at each other and saying cringeworthy stuff like "Right on!" and "get real!" (before defeating the greatest threats in the multiverse in the most laughably nonsensical ways), Creative should hire sharper writers and have them focus solely on the flavour text on cards, creating subtle hints of a story that gives enough leeway for people to piece together into their very own story, which will inevitably be much richer and more coherent than any "prose" from the Wizards hacks.

    Alternatively, if Wizards are intent on reaching a mass market, they should abandon this "free story" crap, hire quality tie-in fiction writers like Dan Abnett, and have them craft an elaborate and well-planned novel cycle, sold for profit. Although I find the MTG story embarrassingly awful in general, the shameless nerd in me would pay good money for a mature Game of Thrones-esque novel about the power struggles between the various Khans of Tarkir -- especially if it involves a secret alliance between the Sultai Brood and House Dimir...
    So... do what they were unsuccessful at for 20 years again? Look, magic players only want to buy Magic cards. If they switched back to for-pay novels, the storyline interest would drop significantly.

    And seriously, what are you even doing here? If you find the story so awful, why do you have an account basically only to talk about it? I'm not saying the story is perfect, but not everything has to be a fantasy epic. I can see Warhammer players, who'd have to have money to spare, buying novels, but Magic players? The reality is the story is better known and more popular than ever thanks to the free online articles. And it's been pretty steadily improving in overall quality.
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    posted a message on The Current Timeline (Of Post-Mending Story Points)
    Quote from Kazooki117 »
    No worries. Maybe over break I could help contribute if you are open to that sort of thing. I feel like there are probably a lot of opportunities to place events between others that I could help tease out.
    Sure, if people want to start adding to it, I'm happy to take it. For instance, we know Enter the Eldrazi happens before Scars of Mirrodin but after Agents of Artifice because Bolas is rebuilding Tezzeret's body.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    I thought the story was fine, it was clearly an introductory piece, but there was a lot more meat on Homesick. Yahenni is certainly interesting.

    Quote from Caranthir »
    Calling a Yaheeni legendary card in Revolt.
    Given that they have a named card, I'm thinking this is a definite.
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    posted a message on The Current Timeline (Of Post-Mending Story Points)
    Quote from Kazooki117 »
    This looks pretty good, in your mind how close is it to being done? It seems to be missing a lot of stuff from origins and Theros, and stuff relating to Ob Nixilis, Garruk, Guildpact, among other things. It might be helpful to have a list of events that haven't been placed in the timeline yet. This would help in organization and might make it easier for others to dig up sources for timing if they know what events still need to be placed in the timeline.

    I don't know if you want to go down this road, as it may become too chaotic, but you might also be able to at least place some events in between others. For example, Garruk's getting cursed happened some time in between 1 and 3 years earlier. This happened after Liliana received the Chain Veil, which was some time after Agents of Artifice, 3 years ago, but before the point 1 year ago when the Helvault was shattered. Same thing for Elspeth's tragic betrayal, which was some time between 2 years earlier, when The Quest for Karn occurs, and 6 months earlier, when Ajani arrives on Kamigawa. I don't have any specific quotes for these, but logically they have to occur between those points at the very least, because of changes in characters (no chain veil vs. chain veil) and characters present (Elspeth on Mirrodin, so still alive, then Ajani saying that Elspeth is dead, so not still alive).

    I dunno, I'd like to help out because this is interesting and seems fun. I'd be up for compiling a list of events that need to be placed and seeing how many of them can be placed via source quotes or the relative placement method.
    I apologize, I didn't see this until more recently. I've added a few notes for Tarkir and Theros, and I've updated the document a little bit to add in a few more approximate dates (as in, we know what range they take place in now).
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Reminder: We've had a bit of drift here, this thread is for discussing Magic Story articles relating to Kaladesh. We've got a new one today!
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on The Repeal of the ACA
    Quote from Highroller »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    I think it's important to realize that the Affordable Care Act isn't perfect, and is outright bad for some parts. It ended up doing little to address rising costs, and had a number of issues throughout that would need to be addressed. It was a band-aid solution to the healthcare problem.
    So what would be the surgical solution?

    Because on the one hand we have soaring costs of healthcare, and on the other hand repealing the act would result in a bunch of people disenfranchised from getting health insurance, and then on top of that the government charging them for being disenfranchised (seriously, why is the healthcare mandate even a thing?)

    So, where do we go from here? Obamacare obviously is problematic in its current form, and whether we scrap it entirely or amend the plan, we still need a new plan. So what would a new plan even look like?
    I think it's important to note that the healthcare mandate, while crappy on the surface, isn't nearly as bad as the idea of increasing premiums for lapsed coverage. That's because the ACA is specifically designed to help the people who would be the ones choosing between healthcare and paying rent. The other proposals are much, much worse for those disenfranchised. The health mandate was to force more low-risk people into the pool, people who were choosing between healthcare and a sweet new TV, but that didn't work out so well. Tons of young people just paid the tax instead, lol.

    The most realistic scenario for fixing our healthcare system is the nationalization of insurance. That's still a hard sell though. Nothing else would really address the rising costs, because insurance is a major part of the problem for rising costs. Maybe more feasibly, we'd need to tackle some big areas, which the ACA addressed somewhat but rarely adequately:

    We'd need laws making insurance/healthcare provider/vendor negotiated prices public. Right now, that's all secret, which is a large part of the reason healthcare doesn't function like a regular economic system. Besides the fact that most people can't shop around when they're bleeding to death.

    We'd need to ensure access to preventive care. Most of our bad debt in healthcare is from people who don't have insurance and let healthcare problems fester until they're really expensive. I don't remember the exact examples anymore, but expenses in medicine are often counter-intuitive. Getting a pre-diabetic on metformin for 20 years is a hell of a lot cheaper than letting them become a full blown diabetic with all the resulting health issues. And even then, getting a diabetic in manageable condition and getting to health issues earlier is way cheaper than hospital stays.

    Other than that, I honestly haven't kept up on what's going on enough to offer better suggestions.
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    posted a message on The Repeal of the ACA
    I've been trying to avoid Debate more recently, but since health is my field, I have to comment. On Price: I find that a lot of physicians - who have maybe a few hours of public health/healthcare economics training decades before in Med School - think they understand how the system works. They generally don't - they only understand how it affects them.

    What's done with the high risk pools is going to be the key issue, since those are the people the ACA is primarily set-up to help. If some kind of disaster coverage is set up for these people, that would help, but the problem is that they typically need regular health maintenance to avoid those big expensive hospital stays, and a system like Empowering Patients just doesn't 'get' that. Allowing insurance companies to upcharge for lapsed coverage? That's... going to get bad.

    I think it's important to realize that the Affordable Care Act isn't perfect, and is outright bad for some parts. It ended up doing little to address rising costs, and had a number of issues throughout that would need to be addressed. It was a band-aid solution to the healthcare problem.

    It's also important to realize the health infrastructure as a whole has only just gotten to the point where a lot of the provisions in the ACA are implemented, and repealing the whole thing now would be a giant, expensive mistake. The ACA is HUGE but in general when people talk about it, they're referring to the health mandate. Which is only a small portion.

    The bottom line is that any healthcare reform has to address preventive medicine for the entire population - without bias as to what - to be effective.

    Quote from gumOnShoe »
    It isn't entirely clear exactly what's going to happen, but it certainly looks like worse coverage for the poor and elderly on the whole. Which is pretty standard fair. Republicans still believe that healthcare is something that only the people who "add to our economy" deserve. Anyone who's lazy and doesn't have a job can die in the gutter they sleep in, that's just fine. That's freedom.
    You were doing so well, but then you had to end with a mustache-twirling caricature and your credibility just went *PBBBBBT*.
    I mean, while this is a bit hyperbolic, it's not that far from the truth. We've only had EMTALA for 30 years in this country. There was a significant period of time where this WAS the majority opinion, on both sides. A rather large portion of the reason for the spiraling cost of healthcare has to do, directly, with our inability to let people die in the gutter.

    I'm not advocating it, but a lot of conservative plans do tend to ignore or not help those who need it the most - and also happen to be the most expensive.
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Quote from Fixius »
    He has someone who has to play with Chandra, Torch of Defiance ?
    Is it worth the cost in the Krenko, Mob Boss deck ?

    Chandra is decent in any red deck, but I haven't spent the money to test her in Krenko yet.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Gammarra »
    You know what would be really cool? If this was the start of a storyline leading our way back to DOminaria! I know this is likely going to end up being Nicol Bolas' home plane, but many have felt he was originally from DOminaria and it would be a cool twist if this opens the gateway (maybe literally!?!?) to good old Dominaria!
    Given we're coming up on the 25th anniversary, I think that's a reasonable suspicion. I'd bet that either the fall 2017 or summer 2018 set is a Return to Dominaria.
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    posted a message on New TV and old video game consoles
    This thread seems to know what its talking about.
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    posted a message on New Green Walker
    The funny thing is, Chandra is the planeswalker with the most cards. Jace is second to her, now. She and him were tied for story appearances, too.

    Nissa IS the third most common planeswalker, however, with six appearances.
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    posted a message on Commander 2016 General Discussion
    Quote from Flisch »
    I agree with Oathbound though. They could have just told us "no Magic stories in the next five weeks" and it would have been fine.
    I think that was part of the problem. There was expectation for something more.
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    posted a message on Commander 2016 General Discussion
    Quote from OathboundOne »
    Sigh.

    Frankly, none of the articles published for the last three weeks counts as a "Story" to me.

    I'd be less annoyed if they have just said "Sorry guys, no stories between Kaladesh and Aether Revolt." than calling this.... filler "story."
    It made sense when it was Savor the Flavor or Uncharted Realms. I get using the slot for creative articles, but retitling 'Magic Story' obviously doesn't help with the perception that flavor articles are okay.

    I'm genuinely surprised and disappointed we aren't seeming to get a real Commander story :/
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    posted a message on Commander 2016 General Discussion
    Take discussion of the Kaladesh Planeswalker Guide or Making of articles to Kaladesh General. I'm renaming this specifically for Commander 2016, since it appears today was the last piece before Aether Revolt begins.
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    posted a message on Crackpot Headcanons
    Quote from Caranthir »

    Mine is this: So. We know that the Phyrexian home plane was an artificial plane created by an unknown ancient dragon planeswalker. Bolas certainly didn't seem like he was the granddaddy of the Phyrexians when he sent Tezzeret there as a spy. So, if Bolas isn't the dragon planeswalker who created Phyrexia, that leaves.....


    Sorry to be the party-pooper, but this is not entirely what we know. The precise formulation in the book is "ancient planeswalker who favored the form of a dragon", meaning (and even hinting) that dragon was not his original appearance.
    This reminds me of another headcanon: Ugin is a Jeskai Monk who mastered all five fires and ascended as a planeswalker (much like Narset did), and took the form of a dragon.

    I wonder if the Raven Man is actually the remaining essence of Leshrac. The rifts were sealed with Night's Reach's porcelain mask on Dominaria, right? That's his first appearance to Lilliana. Granted I also buy into him being a figment of Lilliana's mind or psyche, but it's entirely possible he's literally a PW fragment too, who knows.
    Last we heard Leshrac is trapped in the true Mask of Night's Reach. Supposedly, he died, but it's off camera and only from Bolas' stated intention. It could just be a sparkless Leshrac, and Leshrac did have mental powers.

    I wonder what the deal is with Night's Reach. Before Thassa's Bident theft there was her mask.
    Night's Reach could cross between planes. Back in the day, there were a bunch of creatures, mostly black, that could do that if powerful enough. Is that what you mean?
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    posted a message on The Great Aurora and the Mending
    I'm looking for help again, this time about the relationship between the Great Aurora and the Mending. The wiki links them, but I don't have the novels to confirm, nor any players guides that info might have appeared in. Can anyone provide a reference? Preferably photos or screenshots of where it is mentioned. If it's in a novel, mention which chapter and what novel, otherwise just give the source.
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    posted a message on Breya Casual EDH (looking for some Ideas)
    Off the top of my head, here are my suggestions (My Decklist is here, if you want to play around with it):

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    Creatures
    Angel of Invention
    Angel of Invention nets you two artifacts AND an anthem effect, on an evasive body. It's a must.
    Eldrazi Displacer
    The colorless mana activation cost isn't a big deal in a deck with plenty of mana rocks.
    Reckless Fireweaver
    This does 3 damage to each opponent just for casting Breya. It's a stealth Purphoros, and almost as dangerous in an artifact deck like this.
    Feldon of the Third Path
    Feldon is great for a deck that's looking to blink. If Pia and Kiran Nalaar are dead, you can revive them every turn. Suddenly, on an opponents turn, you can have three creatures that weren't there before. Making them an artifact helps all around, and you get to keep their tokens.
    Padeem, Consul of Innovation
    Your artifacts (including Breya) are untouchable, and you'll likely always have the highest CMC artifact, so it's an extra card every turn, too.

    Mana Rocks
    Hedron Archive, Darksteel Ingot, Fellwar Stone

    Thran Dynamo might be pricey but it's the best mana rock that gives you less than it costs.

    Planeswalkers
    Tezzeret the Seeker
    Tezzeret is on the line price-wise, but he is pure artifact ramp for your deck. His +1 lets you untap your mana rocks or artifact lands for more mana, and his -X lets you find them. He is a MUST for any artifact deck with blue.
    Saheeli Rai
    Saheeli is on the price border but definitely worth it for her -2, even more so if you can get off her ultimate.
    Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast
    Daretti is another one on the line, but another one that's worth it. Creating artifact creature tokens and allowing you to sac artifacts for removal is awesome. His ultimate is also great if you can pull it off.

    Other
    Bident of Thassa
    This is an artifact, and unlike Thopter Spy Network, you draw a card for each creature that deals damage, not just one card for dealing damage.
    Panharmonicon
    For a deck with this many ETB effects, this is a must.
    Ghirapur Aether Grid
    There will be times when you've got nothing to do with your artifacts. Just Breya and her tokens and one other artifact lets you deal damage at the end of your opponent's turn.
    Voltaic Key, Unwinding Clock
    Why wouldn't you want to untap?
    Trading Post
    Always valuable.
    Sculpting Steel
    Always useful in an artifact deck, although it might be slightly out of your price.
    Unburial Rites
    You have enough non-artifact creatures to make this worthwhile.
    Saheeli's Artistry
    This is obscenely good in this deck. It's a mini-rite of replication for artifacts. Speaking of which...
    Rite of Replication
    Imagine copying Myr Battlesphere five times.

    Lands
    Darksteel Citadel, Ancient Den, Seat of the Synod, Great Furnace, Vault of Whispers
    These are MUSTS. They inobtrusively add to your artifact count, with the bonus of being tutorable. Especially great with Tezzeret the Seeker, because his -X becomes -0, Put an artifact land from your library into play.

    Comes with Breya
    Faerie Artisans
    I feel like most people aren't understanding exactly what this card does. This gives you the ETB effects of every creature your opponents play! And on your turn you get the last creature an opponent played, which also happens to be an artifact token to sac to Breya. Combined with some other cards, it's bonkers.
    Chromatic Lantern
    This comes with the deck, and is instant mana fixing.
    Beacon of Unrest
    This is an auto-include in any artifact deck with black.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    More images. I should have saved the first few posts of the thread for them.

    Flamingoes, Sheep Minotaur, Egret Aven and Jackal/Ainok/Houndfolk.

    The Egret has human arms, so I'm not sure that's not a costume, but the Ram Minotaur seems to have the greyish fur throughout.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    I've updated the OP with the information from the Viz Media announcement now, too. I'm uploaded some images as well that I'll put in spoilers on the OP for references.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Hey everybody
    Welcome!
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    posted a message on Breya, Etherium Shaper
    Quote from Guerte »
    This is the list that I plan on trying out if people are still trying to figure out what to play.

    Breya, Shaper of Combos
    And here is mine: Breya, Death of a Thousand Thopters.

    I like Breya specifically because she's not Sharuum. Don't get me wrong, I like winning, but when I'm winning a five-player free-for-all with every other player turned against me? It might be a bit too strong. I want a swingier Artifact Deck anyway, and Breya lets me turn my creatures sideways.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Perkunas687 »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    I added the art book cover to the OP. Also, for your viewing pleasure, see attached image.


    Nice find! Is Theros within the development timeframe of Amonkhet? I've thought it was around three years to develop, so was Theros coming out as Amonkhet was being planned? That might be a decent reason for the armor similarity, if Ashiok has been to/is from Amonkhet.
    Given Vengeful Pharaoh, they've been planning a Bolas Egypt plane for a long time. I think Ashiok was just seeded as vaguely Egyptian, for potential use later.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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