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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    Since it was the last post on the last page, I'm reiterating: Move non-Gatewatch discussion to another thread. This thread is about opinions on the Gatewatch. A lot of this belongs in the Amonkhet thread.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    This has veered pretty significantly off track. Move discussion to a new topic about legends if you like, but bring it back to Gatewatch discussion here.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Are relationships really that terrible?
    Youtube is NOT going to have the best life advice for you.

    Relationships are not all doom and gloom. They're actually quite nice, but they also don't always work out for a variety of reasons. It sucks at the end, and people who are perpetually bad at them tend to get embittered and outspoken about it.
    Posted in: Water Cooler Talk
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    posted a message on Geography of Zendikar
    Necro'd Thread Locked, Necro question answered.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Could Moag be Elspeth's home plane?
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Elspeth's home plane is likely one of the ones Karn spread Phyrexian Oil to by accident.

    As an aside, am I the only one who is bothered by that retcon? Not the idea of Karn as an unwitting instigator of doom - that idea has a lot of story potential. I can see Karn's narrative arc becoming travelling around and trying to fix the worlds that he inadvertently corrupted. No, I mean the idea that the catalyst was Xantcha's heartstone. Partly because it seems inconsistent to what know about the heartstones (Xantcha was walking around with hers for ages with no apparently ill-effects, and you can't tell me that even Insane Urza wouldn't have given that thing a once-over for Phyrexian foulness.) Partly because the Phyrexian Oil was itself a retcon - wasn't it supposed to be retcon'd into some weapon deployed during the Invasion? (So how would the Heartstone - created around the time of the Brother's War - have any of the Oil?)

    Mostly, though, I object because it seems like a massive disservice to the character of Xantcha herself, who remains one of the most interesting (to me, at least) characters WotC has ever created.
    The whole bioweapon thing was never canon, or at least never laid out in the fiction. It was barely word of god, because it was the author who posted (to this forum, actually) that it was the original intent, which isn't the same thing. The actual novels never talk about it except in the prologue to the first novel.

    Scars is retconned all to hell, but as someone who read Scars of Mirrodin first and then the rest of the old lore about Phyrexia, it's not really a conflict. Phyrexian Oil was always semi-intelligent, it was a mutagen of some kind, and had a couple weird properties mentioned offhand that make sense.

    I don't think it does a disservice to Xantcha, either, but lends Urza's whole futile endeavor an extra bit of dramatic irony.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Mercury01 »
    Or perhaps it was like Argentum, a stable existing plane, only this one was simply an endless desert, so Bolas built it up and populated it.


    I still don't buy Argentum was pre-existing, it makes no darn sense!
    Why? There are physically empty planes out there. Karn still made Argentum itself, it's just the pocket of reality was pre-existing.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Could Moag be Elspeth's home plane?
    I read the archive trap article today and learned of Moag. I'm no story guru but this is to my knowledge the only plane to have been invaded by Phyrexians "off screen". Could this be Elspeth's home plane then?
    I doubt it, Phyrexia had invaded a lot of places, but generally only to take resources. They didn't usually colonize, with the big exception being Dominaria, which they thought belonged to them.

    Elspeth's home plane is likely one of the ones Karn spread Phyrexian Oil to by accident.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on (Question) ¿Now exists two Nicol Bolas?
    Since now we've reached the silly point of this thread, I'm locking it.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Who is the mysterious teal guy from new phyrexia booster box?
    Re-reading about the Steel Thanes, I think it might be Kraynox. His description is close.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Who is the mysterious teal guy from new phyrexia booster box?
    Let's bring this back to the Phyrexian Art. We can argue about depictions of Bolas' horns as geographical features in the Amonkhet thread. Did not intend for this to sidetrack things.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Who is the mysterious teal guy from new phyrexia booster box?
    Quote from Tanukimo »
    Ahh, the good old days when they didn't put a planeswalker in every key art.
    Yep. The good old days of... now.

    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Cavern of Souls (at Mythic)
    From TCG Player
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Who is the mysterious teal guy from new phyrexia booster box?
    It's just the key art, representing New Phyrexia's victory. It appears to be the same kind of Phyrexian from Enslave, but it's not a specific character.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Quote from demecole »
    what if you got a goblin or another card that said destroy then would my counter work ?
    and if so is there a such thing as a enchamtment that would work for that purpuse
    To the first question, yes, if you're destroying a creature you can regenerate it.

    For the second question, no. All the mono-red goblin-making combos are already in the deck.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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    posted a message on question about Shandalar
    Quote from void_nothing »
    Does anyone know if the Eloren Wilds have any story significance, either in the old game or in recent core sets?

    It does not. It's just another location on Shandalar, one they happened to choose for a Planechase card. It's no more significant than The Hippodrome.
    No STORY significance, no, but it is connected to the old game. It was one of the random location names that could appear over the course of the game.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on question about Shandalar
    The Rabiah Scale indicates it's possible but unlikely. It's kind of their current 'generic' setting, although seeing Faerie Dragons again (one unique aspect of the old setting) would be cool.

    Not really a hook there for a whole block, but between Slivers and the Chain Veil there might be one day.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Quote from demecole »
    sorry to be a bother but explain why i can not do that becuase i thought you could regenterate a sacraficed creature
    and if not then would sacurficing a goblin you crate from mogg war marshil to not have to pay the echo cost work or not
    still get more goblins but might still need don krenko

    sorry for spelling
    Sacrificing a creature is different from a creature being destroyed. A sacrificed creature isn't destroyed, and regenerate only defends against destruction. A sacrificed creature simply dies.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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    posted a message on [Fan Art] Leaked Artwork for Amonkhet?
    This is fan art first posted last year on Twitter by Concept Artist Robert Schneider.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Question referring to Magic The Gathering Art Books
    Quote from Jay13x »
    I just recently got into playing MTG and now am starting to collect the Art Books so I may get an idea of story lines behind the cards and creatures, etc. So far I can see there is one for Innistrad, Kaladesh and Zendikar, with Amonkhet coming this summer. Are there none for Aether Revolt, Eldritch Moon or Gatewatch? Or are they part of the other ones I already mentioned? My apologies if this already has a thread (could not find it) or if I am posting in the wrong section (if so, please move it!). Thanks!
    The art books are for the entire block (the large and small expansion) not just the sets. So the Zendikar Art Book is Battle for Zendikar and Oath of the Gatewatch, for example. Although if I remember correctly it covers everything related to Zendikar leading up to BFZ.

    If you're interested in learning more about the story, make sure to give the Storyline Resources Thread a read-through. The story of the current crop of characters goes back a ways.


    Thank you very much! Glad to know I have only a few books to get and a lot of reading to do! That works for me!!
    Quick book recommendation: DO NOT read the novels In the Teeth of Akoum, Test of Metal or Quest for Karn. Almost all the specific details in In the Teeth of Akoum have been retcon'd, and it'll probably only confuse you. Double that for Test of Metal, it is as not canon as a novel can be without being explicitly retcon'd altogether. Quest for Karn just isn't particularly good, and a one paragraph summary is about as good. I've got summaries for all of them in various archive traps (but the one for Quest for Karn won't be published for another month or two yet.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Question referring to Magic The Gathering Art Books
    I just recently got into playing MTG and now am starting to collect the Art Books so I may get an idea of story lines behind the cards and creatures, etc. So far I can see there is one for Innistrad, Kaladesh and Zendikar, with Amonkhet coming this summer. Are there none for Aether Revolt, Eldritch Moon or Gatewatch? Or are they part of the other ones I already mentioned? My apologies if this already has a thread (could not find it) or if I am posting in the wrong section (if so, please move it!). Thanks!
    The art books are for the entire block (the large and small expansion) not just the sets. So the Zendikar Art Book is Battle for Zendikar and Oath of the Gatewatch, for example. Although if I remember correctly it covers everything related to Zendikar leading up to BFZ.

    If you're interested in learning more about the story, make sure to give the Storyline Resources Thread a read-through. The story of the current crop of characters goes back a ways.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on no new "Weekly Story" For 3 weeks? am I missing something?
    Quote from Gutterstorm »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Renewal is the last story posted. Weekly stories are on hiatus until amonkhet, in their place they've got weekly official magic story team podcasts coming out.


    Indeed. I was surprised to find after the first one that no one here seemed to be talking about them. I haven't listened to them yet. Have you? Is there anything interesting or noteworthy in them?

    Edit: Also why no side stories? Modern masters is coming up and lots of people are still miffed about no commander stories. I guess with Amonkhet not coming until April there's plenty of time for some side stuff?
    I imagine it's to give the creative team a chance to get ahead on Amonkhet's weekly stories and plotting out for future blocks? I get the impression we're not going to be getting many one-offs anymore.

    I've listened to them, they're interesting but there isn't anything earth-shattering if you've paid attention to Creative Panels in the past.

    We did learn, Re: Amonkhet, that Bolas will be taking direct action this upcoming block, and that James Wyatt is excited about the races.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on no new "Weekly Story" For 3 weeks? am I missing something?
    Renewal is the last story posted. Weekly stories are on hiatus until amonkhet, in their place they've got weekly official magic story team podcasts coming out.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Magic Storyline Resources (The Stories and Lore Are Here)
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Guys,

    today I did some spring cleaning with my daughter and I came across FP brochures from Kamigawa Block Fat Packs (the last ones that were A4-format). Would you be interested in scans? Smile
    Always.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    We also have to remember there's a difference between creating a world on an existing, empty plane and creating an entire plane from scratch.

    Serra's Realm was an entire plane from scratch, but I vaguely remember word of god saying Argentum was created in an existing, but desolate, plane.

    Karn needing to 'manage' the mana core may not have been about keeping the plane stable, but keeping the mana core stable.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    Quote from Spiritfiredoc »
    So if the core was coming apart was something destabilizing? Is the plane, as New Phyrexia, still stable or is it just slowly coming apart at the seams?
    It's not entirely clear. I think the core is stable for now, or at the very least for a long time from now.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    And we do need to note Memnarch was SUPER CRAY CRAY so yes the plan was utterly insane to even consider a viable solution for any problem, he was crazy enough that his hallucinations of Karn were powerful enough to keep Karn from manifesting on Mirrodin.
    Sidebar: In The Darksteel Eye Memnarch DOES say that the core is coming apart with Karn.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    So the Mirran Suns, at least for Memnarch's usage, were like the various pieces of Ramos for the Legacy Weapon?
    Memnarch situated the Panopticon directly under the Radix deep in the core, with the goal that he would use the Green Sun's ejection to imitate that process, yes, and get Glissa's spark.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    Really now? I could have sworn it was brought up during the climax, by either Memmnarch or Karn when they were explaining why Memmnarch needed a planeswalker's spark to steal.
    No, at least not in Fifth Dawn. At the climax Memnarch and Glissa fall into the mana core, but very little is said about the suns. It could have been The Darksteel Eye, though. Memnarch talks about why he needs the green sun's eruption to steal Glissa's spark (he's imitating the Legacy Weapon). When that fails, he has Slobad build the Ascension Web instead.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    I think the blue-green guy is our new planeswalker, just in terms of color balance for the set. We've already got Bolas, Gideon, and Liliana.

    Edit: Attaching arts.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    The Trials seem monocolored, based on the recent releases.

    The Trial of Solidarity (White)
    The Trial of Knowledge (Blue)
    The Trial of Strength (Green)
    The Trial of Ambition (Black)
    The Trial of Zeal (Red)
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    Quote from Jay13x »
    The Mirran 'Suns' are clusters of mana that were jettisoned from Mirrodin's Core. There's not really much else to say about them, we don't know a lot about how the giant ball of mana in Mirrodin's core works, other than it jettisoned five colored mana balls over the course of a couple hundred years.


    I think in Fifth Dawn Memnarch or Karn mentioned that they were an effect of the Plane destabilizing due to Karn not being there.
    I just finished Fifth Dawn today, actually, and it's never mentioned. It's a fine supposition, and it might have been mentioned in Darksteel and I just missed it, but I don't think it's ever explicitly stated. Maybe implied.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on THE ELDER DRAGON THEORY
    Moved to Speculation

    This is... quite the theory.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
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    posted a message on What exactly are the Mirran Suns?
    The Mirran 'Suns' are clusters of mana that were jettisoned from Mirrodin's Core. There's not really much else to say about them, we don't know a lot about how the giant ball of mana in Mirrodin's core works, other than it jettisoned five colored mana balls over the course of a couple hundred years.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Where can I find the story for original Innistrad?
    All the relevant articles are in the Magic Storyline Resources thread: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-storyline/649232-magic-storyline-resources
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on New player - Where to read about all the stories from the blocks?
    Hop on over to the Magic Storyline Resources thread! Let me know if you have any questions. And yes, avoid the novel Quest for Karn at all costs, and probably Test of Metal and In the Teeth of Akoum, too.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Riot
    You want to talk Amonkhet, go to the Amonkhet thread.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from ThyLordQ »
    Quote from Perkunas687 »
    Something I was wondering about that I didn't see brought up (unless I missed it).

    What if Amonkhet's trials are actually attempts to make any dormant planeswalker sparks ignite? Only a select few make it through, and they sound pretty brutal, conditions that might be fertile soil for planeswalker ignition.

    Also, if they saw Bolas as a god, they might think it's a gift from him and be beholden to him, so he has a group of worshipping planeswalkers he helped create/ignite.


    I don't think it was brought up in this thread, but it was talked about a lot in the Amonkhet reveal thread in the Rumor Mill.
    Yeah, I brought up earlier that I believe Ashiok is a Worthy. At the very least, it's an army fanatically loyal to Bolas.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Quote from demecole »
    i beleve i have found a cheaper infiate goblin prodcer you uses a goblin chirurgeon by using 2 to 4 mogg war marshals sacerficing and regenerating them to produce a infanet amount of goblin tokens becuse if the chirurgeon 0 cost no tapping affect. is leagal as far as i know

    sorry about spelling

    You can't regenerate a sacrificed creature, and with the ability you sacrifice before the regeneration ability goes on the stack, so the creature is already in the graveyard anyway.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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    posted a message on Is Nicol Bolas a clockworker?
    Bring it back to Bolas and Clockworking. There are threads already for other discussions.

    In any case, Test of Metal is as not-canon as something can be without being explicitly retconned. Nothing in it will likely ever be mentioned again, and it's worth noting that the process for creating Etherium described in it has been retconned by Breya, Etherium Shaper's story. Pieces of it were already retconned in Dark Discoveries.

    Tezzeret's characterization in Kaladesh matches up with the Tezzeret in Agents of Artifice, not the one from Test of Metal. Liliana and Tezzeret are reluctant allies in Test of Metal, and the events between them (and Jace) are never mentioned in Kaladesh, only Agents of Artifice is referenced.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    After a twitter convo with an egyptologist into magic, it sounds like Amonkhetu is the most flavorful name for people and things from Amonkhet (instead of Amonkheti or something).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Yatsufusa »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Here's a though for you: What if Hour of Devestation is actually the next step in the Chain Veil's story, and it does to Amonkhet what it did to the Onakke?


    What did it do again? I think I got mixed up and was under the impression it's functionally a phylactery object the Onakke are depending on to resurrect themselves from. Considering Liliana's stress from keeping them achieving that using her as the vessel, I doubt she could take it if an entire plane's worth of spirits was absorbed into it as well... unless they (Amonkhet and Onakke) realize that it's outright impossible for their numbers to be resurrected from a single vessel, so they fight an "internal war" in the Chain Veil, which helps Liliana somewhat...
    The entire Onakke people were wiped out by surprise by a mysterious devastation. My thinking is 'the vessel of destruction' makes that happen again.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Yatsufusa »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    There are only two that matter right now, I think: New Phyrexia and now Amonkhet. Give the set title for the second block of Amonkhet, I wouldn't have high hopes for it lasting. As for New Phyrexia, I think the five suns give it a color balance that most others lack (which is typically why they would collapse on their own).


    Now that you've raised it, it gives me some fear that they might be going for a "We didn't defeat Bolas, but we destroyed the plane he created, victory for the Gatewatch!" line... without consideration that the creatures on Amonkhet are probably still actual living beings (whether they are outright Bolas Pawns or not shouldn't be too relevant in a planar collapse).

    Then again, perhaps Amonkhet was already collapsing, which is why Bolas needs a Planar Bridge - he doesn't (and wouldn't) care for his pawns, but to lose a plane's worth of them would probably inconvenience him to some degree. I know this is more of speculation, but it's still the most logical one considering our knowledge that the plane is artificial and Tezzeret's plan on Kaladesh.

    The real headscratcher is the Gatewatch now - if Bolas is indeed on the "defensive", then literally nothing but a loss would make the Gatewatch look "good" now.
    Here's a though for you: What if Hour of Devestation is actually the next step in the Chain Veil's story, and it does to Amonkhet what it did to the Onakke?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from jshrwd »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Quote from wadprime »
    You're absolutely right about Amonkhet though. We don't know Bola's relationship with the plane. We know it's ruled by him, but we don't know anything about the people there. Even if they do want to be saved from his clutches, it doesn't change the fact that Amonkhet is Bolas's home turf.
    I think it's more likely that they actually like Bolas. Wouldn't that be a culture shock?

    This seems more likely with the latest story and Liliana saying that Amonkhet isn't just ruled by Bolas. He created it before The Mending.


    Have they ever said what is going on with Created Planes post mending in regards to them self destructing? Did the mending stabilize them all?
    There are only two that matter right now, I think: New Phyrexia and now Amonkhet. Give the set title for the second block of Amonkhet, I wouldn't have high hopes for it lasting. As for New Phyrexia, I think the five suns give it a color balance that most others lack (which is typically why they would collapse on their own).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on libertarianism.
    Quote from MTGTCG »
    Quote from Hackworth »
    What kind of products are we talking about? Any examples?
    Walmart and Amazon have both gotten in trouble under European predatory pricing laws for dropping their prices too low for local companies to compete while propping up their own business with overseas profits. [link] [link]


    The fact that they are dropping prices is a GOOD thing. Its a wonderful thing and well worth other businesses going out of business.
    Except when they raise their prices back up again. The consumer loses, overall.
    Posted in: Debate
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    posted a message on Dealing with judgy friend...
    No, that person sounds awful.
    Posted in: Water Cooler Talk
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    posted a message on What's next?
    1. No, I think the art book states that they're all to meet up on Dominaria after gaining allies. I think the rest of the gatewatch isn't going to listen and go straight to Amonkhet, instead.
    2. Ajani was there way back during Scars of Mirrodin block, he brought Elspeth her armor while she was a pit fighter.
    3. We don't know. He knows a lot of people though, he's traveled all over. We'll have to wait and see, may be new faces, may be old. I'm hoping Dack!
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from wadprime »
    You're absolutely right about Amonkhet though. We don't know Bola's relationship with the plane. We know it's ruled by him, but we don't know anything about the people there. Even if they do want to be saved from his clutches, it doesn't change the fact that Amonkhet is Bolas's home turf.
    I think it's more likely that they actually like Bolas. Wouldn't that be a culture shock?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Epic Summaries of Odyssey and Onslaught Blocks
    Quote from ThyLordQ »
    All righty. I don't know if I'm qualified, but I'd been meaning to order the books anyways, and I've wanted to try my hand at something like this for a while. I'll do my best to get something to ya soon.
    If you're serious, I'll help you with it. PM me when you have the books and I'll talk you through what I usually do.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on libertarianism.
    Quote from MTGTCG »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a monopoly is and does. What's to stop the monopoly from dropping their prices low enough kill the competition, then raising them back up again. This is what happens in real life.


    Whenever it raises prices back up again people will buy from a source not as expensive.
    I'm really not sure you understand what monopoly means. Can you define what you mean when you say 'monopoly'.

    Because it doesn't mean 'big business', it means sole control over the market. Any competition - IF there even is competition - can be easily killed off.
    Posted in: Debate
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    posted a message on libertarianism.
    Quote from MTGTCG »
    Monopolies are only bad if the monopoly raises prices too high. In that case, competition would re-enter the market.
    This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a monopoly is and does. What's to stop the monopoly from dropping their prices low enough kill the competition, then raising them back up again. This is what happens in real life. No one unilaterally decided that monopolies are bad just because.

    Quote from MTGTCG »
    In the case of cartels, it is beneficial to a business involved in one to cheat by going against the terms of the cartel.
    It isn't, actually. That's the whole point, they agree upon mutually beneficial deals, and will actively punish any who don't go along with the cartel agreement.

    Quote from MTGTCG »
    If there is a monopoly on a source of water in an area, which would be unlikely because people living in that area shouldve realized the possibility of such a monopoly occuring and made previous arrangements before moving in, the business with that monopoly would have to compete with trucks that could bring water to that area. The people living in that area could also move away to a place where they know that such a situation could not occur because of previous contract.
    Lol. Do the words "Flint Water Crisis" mean anything to you?
    Posted in: Debate
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    posted a message on Narset, Enlightened Master's Staff Weapon
    The pole arm itself is fictional, but hooks like that were typically to help catch riders on horseback by catch on a piece of armor. Given that the hook faces forward, it's likely to disarm and immobilize opponents as well by catching them in the crook.

    It's likely modeled on the Chinese guandao.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Necropotence Art Character
    Quote from Aethenlor »
    In Mark Tedin's art for Necropotence, there is a skeleton who has also appeared as a Vanguard avatar, and art in an Un- set. Do we have any leads on this character in the lore or is this just a generic skelly? Necropotence has always been my favorite card, I just want to know if "The Skull" is a named character or what
    Unfortunately, there is no character from either the Ice Age novels or comics that would correspond to the Lich from Necropotence :/

    Edit: That doesn't mean there isn't, just that I don't know of one.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
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    posted a message on Story quality since BFZ
    It seems consensus is the story is slowly getting better, which I think is true - especially now that we're past the initial chaos caused by the paradigm shift. Chris L'Etoile in particular seems to be a great influence on the story, and his pieces tend to stand out.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Don Krenko, Combo Goblins
    Paradox Engine is absolutely insane in this deck, especially when you get Krenko in play.
    Good call. I will play test and report back.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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    posted a message on Epic Summaries of Odyssey and Onslaught Blocks
    Quote from ThyLordQ »
    What's the rough time frame for needing these articles?
    Not for months, yet. It would need to be done before I publish on Time Spiral, which won't be until I've basically completed all the stories I want to write Archive Trap articles on. So, four to six months.

    It'd be nice to have it sooner (within a month), so I can post it before Mirrodin, but it's not essential.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on Epic Summaries of Odyssey and Onslaught Blocks
    Hey all! While I've got my Archive Trap agenda more or less planned out for most of this year, before too long I'm going to be covering the Time Spiral crisis. I've been trying to hit all the characters and events relevant to the story of the Mending in anticipation of getting there, but adding six additional novels to my plate (especially novels not available in e-formats) is a bit too much for me with all the reading and re-reading I still need to do. I'm looking for a guest writer to either do a 1-3 article original summary of the story to be hosted here, or an existing series that I can ask the author for permission to republish here.

    If anyone is interested, or knows of a series that already covered the story in detail, please let me know!
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    posted a message on Questions about Zendikar's Geography for Plane-Shift Zendikar D&D Campaign
    So, the answer is basically 'it depends' or 'it's up to you'. To answer your questions specifically:
    1. The Roil's volativity varies from place to place, as do the effects. You're safe fudging it for your ruins.
    2. The same goes for how much the terrain is changed. In some places, everything has been upended. In others, it's the same big rocks that get lifted and dropped over and over.
    3. Roil tides vary, in some places they're too frequent to settle there, in others they barely get any.
    4. Both! It depends on what the roil does.

    I'd start with A Planeswalkers Guide to Zendikar, but if you can get the Art Book it's overall a better resource.

    Essentially, if you're making a setting, you can adjust the rules how you want. The roil isn't one cohesive event plane-wide, and as the quote from the Guide states, it could be more intense at the top of a mountain than a bottom. In the novel In the Teeth of Akoum, it's more intense inside a canyon than outside it. Basically, you have carte blanche.
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    posted a message on Archive Trap: A Vorthos Guide to MTG
    Quote from George »
    Thanks Jay for your work. I really enjoy the articles and I think they fill a precious void.

    At the same time, I also like your approach of linking or hosting other sources when the recaps already exist. On that note, you mentioned some time
    a blog by Squirle_Master. Which one is it?
    Quote from Jay13x »

    I know this ends up being quite of bit of pre-mending lore that I'll miss, but Squirle_Master covers that so well in his blog that it's not worth me treading into a lot of it.
    It's called Multiverse in Review, it's linked from the resource page and also some of my articles on older lore. Squirle used to be a storyline moderator here, did a lot of things I'm doing (but for older lore). He's a great resource, and has a ton of materials that I didn't even know existed.
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    posted a message on Lore spoilers from AER artbook
    Quote from JZL_Reloaded »
    Quote from Jay13x »
    Is it? I didn't get that impression at all. If anything, without Tezzeret the renegades are the bad guys.


    Are you kidding? The Renegades are utterly spotless. They're goofy teenagers, sports heroes, socialites, lovable grandmothers, etc. Not one of the stories shows them doing anything that could be seen in a morally grey way, much less in a bad light. They're not FALN, the Irish Republican Army, or whatever recent revolutionary comparison would be.

    Now the Consulate on the other hand, these guys are stereotypical authoritarian goons, corrupt mafiosos, and ruthless Einsatzgruppen burning down villages. They're even okay with public executions of children, per Chandra's origin story. Bad dudes, clearly, with little redeeming value showcased in the stories. Oh wait, the Aradara Express runs on time...that's all that matters.

    The Uncharted Realms offered no evidence of Renegade wrongdoing and plenty of boundaries crossed by the Consulate. If WotC creative didn't want this to be some Manichean, Star Wars kinda deal, then they've done an exceptionally poor job.
    Our very first introduction to renegades are Pia and Chandra Nalaar sending their reckless young child on a smuggling run. The renegades use a bunch of child soldier in life-or-death scenarios. Oviya Pashiri's activities directly fund crime lords like Gonti.

    They're not good.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from Folza »
    I am predicting the Amonkhet story might be starting earlier than we think, so that we do get some Magic story fix between now and the next block. Perhaps after Battle and Dark Intimations, maybe we will get a Dovin Baan, Tezzerret or Nicol Bolas background story (A Nicol Bolas story of what he has been up to on Amonkhet would get me quite excited).
    This is my thinking. We got re-introduced to Tezzeret with very little background, and Bolas requires more explanation, as does Amonkhet as a whole.

    Ideally they'll develop the Gatewatch during that time. We'll see them regroup on Ravnica, and see a few stories of them on Amonkhet scoping the situation out and planning.
    Hopefully? The characters definitely need time to breath and develop a bit more naturally.
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    posted a message on The Current Timeline (Of Post-Mending Story Points)
    Fantastic work! I'll make sure to bookmark this page for reference when my own project finally gets to the Post-Mending days!

    One question though: because of the two reference in "A Gaze Blank and Pitiless" and "Stone and Blood" ("The doubts had started last year, when Avacyn had mysteriously disappeared" and "One year ago - Nahiri slammed into a surface on her hands and knees, her endless fall over at last.") you only have a very short time for Avacyn to actually be gone. Would it be possible to interpret that first quote as "the doubts had started last year, during the period in which Avacyn had mysteriously disappeared" and to move the actual disappearance further back in time? Or are there more references backing up a short disappearance of Avacyn?
    It could be. Avacyn's disappearance timeframe is squishy. Obviously, when people say 'Last Year', and don't specify a month, it could mean almost anywhere in a two year time span, depending on when in the year the person making the statement is and when the previous year the event happened. I don't see a reason why the sealing couldn't have happened closer to Alara (which would have to be before Zendikar but not by much, putting it at around 3 years ago).

    There reason I ask is, in the IDW comics Dack Fayden visits Innistrad, where people are saying things like "Avacyn, why have you forsaken us?", heavily hinting that Avacyn is already imprisoned at that point. But later in that comic series Dack meets Malfegor, and Malfegor dies in Alara Unbroken. Since Alara Unbroken features the re-powering of Bolas it has to take place after Agents of Artifice, and since Sarkhan Vol is made Bolas' minion in that novel it has to take place before Zendikar block. You've got the end of AoA and Zendikar both at 3 years ago, so that would place Alara Unbroken at that spot as well, the IDW comics even earlier, and possibly Avacyn's disappearance earlier still.
    The timeline of the Dack comics has always bothered me for just this reason. I think it's fair to say Avacyn was in the Helvault 1.5, but could have been imprisoned earlier. Sorin showing up in the Dack comic make it seem to take place during Dark Ascension.
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    posted a message on positive depictions of heavier-set / fat / large people in mtg?
    Unlocked, with a caveat:
    The fatty pun has been made, please don't make it again.
    Do not denigrate overweight people. Acknowledging it's not incredibly healthy is fine, but weight and obesity are very complicated subjects.
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    posted a message on What's your opinion on 'The Gatewatch'?
    Well, remember that D&D and Magic are fundamentally different games. Magic needs to follow the blocks for story, while D&D is a game about a narrative and their novels have a ton more creative freedom.
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    posted a message on Lore spoilers from AER artbook
    Quote from JZL_Reloaded »
    Of two minds about reading the leak.

    On one hand, it's disappointing to read that, yes, the Consulate/Renegade conflict was your standard pulp/jRPG "evil empire" fare.
    Is it? I didn't get that impression at all. If anything, without Tezzeret the renegades are the bad guys.
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    posted a message on Magic Story: Kaladesh & Aether Revolt (No Spoiler Discussion)
    Quote from smashkicker »
    This story lost me when we found out that she is a fifteen year old with her own fleet of pirate ships. I mean seriously? I was willing to suspend my disbelief for a single ship but a whole fleet?
    That's the part that lost you? Not the skywhales, the telepathy, the airships, but a 15-year-old with her own fleet?
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Xul »
    Quote from Caranthir »
    With how the story unfolds, I am very afraid that the artbook is again quite innacurate.

    Baral is locked up as of the end of latest story. Jace uses his Illusionist's Stratagem, but not during the rebel attack on the Death Star Aether Spire, but now. And Baral is not the one who dispels it.


    I might be wrong here but what was so inaccurate with the Innistrad artbook? The same events took place but those from the story articles were naturally more detailed. I didn't get a chance to read it myself but I did get to read the Zendikar artbook and that one was spot on.
    The Innistrad Art Book doesn't mention anything about Emrakul sealing herself in the moon.

    In general, the art book summaries are only roughly accurate, but tend to miss a lot of details or get some flat-out wrong.
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    posted a message on positive depictions of heavier-set / fat / large people in mtg?
    Yeah this went to disappointingly predictable places. Locked.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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    posted a message on the mystery of angels and demons
    Angels tend to be the embodiment of white mana on a plane. That isn't always the case, and sometimes they are artificially created through an enchantment, or at least modified by it.

    Demons are the same, except with black mana.

    As for why not on Theros? I imagine the Nyx enchantment prevents them from forming, or uses up the mana that would go into it. As for demons? About half of them are nyxborn, the rest may just have pre-dated the gods or been co-opted by the gods.
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    posted a message on Help with Ghirapur Map?
    The Cowl runs along the river for a while.

    It's not entirely clear exactly where the main fair took place, other than in Artani Hall. Given that Liliana and Chandra's train breaks down and the conductor mentions waiting on instruction from Aradara Station, and they're near the fair at that point, it is likely nearby the Eleven Bridges.

    Quote from Pollaski »
    Isn't it also at or near the coast? The artbook mentions that the land that came to be Ghirapur was a coastal territory being warred over by many different principalities.
    It's on a river that leads to the coast, according to the artbook, not necessarily on the coast itself.
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    posted a message on Daretti, Scrap Savant - Artifact Shenanigans
    Okay, so Aether Revolt is up. It's probably time we talk about the Daretti-potential cards, right?

    Pia's Revolution seems like an auto-include. Either you're pitching it anyway with Daretti's +2, or you're getting 3 free damage in and recurring it with Daretti's -2. It's all upside.

    Scrap Trawler is another seeming auto-include, as it gives you card advantage for something you were going to do anyway, and like Pia's Revolution, you can just pitch it to Daretti's +2.

    Treasure Keeper seems handy. Except for a couple looters, anything I'd grab with this would be useful. Bonus points for it not need to be an artifact, and flavor points if you use Trash for Treasure on it. Basically, it's a sac target that ups your value.

    Servo Schematic might as well be called Servo Wellspring. Useful in that it's three artifacts for 2, which seems like a bargain, but I'm not sure it's worth the space.
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    posted a message on Weatherlight and jacetice parallel universes?
    Moved to Speculation

    There is not. There are deliberate parallels between characters both Pre- and Post-mending, but other than that they take place in the same timeline.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Oh well, Breya, a complementary product character whose six-lines description nullifies what we have known before. But you are right,if they now allow Breya create etherium, why not Tezz. Meh...
    I mean, in Alara Unbroken Esperites had found what they believed to be Carmot already. It stands to reason in the years since (in-game time) someone actually got it to work.
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    posted a message on Sharuum, Everyone's Favorite Kitty
    Universal Solvent seems like it could be handy here. It's pricey, but also infinitely renewable.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt Name and Number Crunch
    Okay, there's no room for Kari in multicolor, so she's DEFINITELY the red legend and expertise. Advika may still be a red legend, or she's competing with Surash for 127 as a multicolor.
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    posted a message on Aether Revolt General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed Here)
    Quote from kolayhe »
    I thought Bolas created the Seekers of Carmot and the whole "recipe for etherium requires Carmot" was a joke he played on Tez?

    Man, it's hard to keep up when the novels get retconned all the time.
    Exactly one novel has been retconned - Test of Metal. The latest story went out of it's way to unretcon The Purifying Fire somewhat, by making Chandra's statements to gideon a fiction she made up.

    And the seekers were a trick, but not on Tezzeret. Bolas did actually know that Esper didn't have the right ingredients. Breya found the secret on her own.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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