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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from Burntgerbil »
    Quote from liquid_water »

    Of all the cards to call no way in hell, I wouldn't label prime time as that. As removal gets better, prime time becomes a weaker creature. The only think that makes prime time powerful with one activation is Urborg and cabal coffers... that's it. Get those two lands, and you surge ahead in mana production. Maybe ink moth nexus and that pump land. But other than that, the power level of what ptime can fetch drops sharply. Based on the current list, i find ptime harder to justify on the list, and can foresee him coming off in the next 5 years. If anything, wizards will just make more versions of him and SP since there is a demand in the EDH community for it.


    I agree with Liquid. It seems a really sad thing that Prime Time is right up there next to Balance and Limited Resources. We get it, it would be the best creature to clone. That medal has to go to something.

    Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx + Deserted Temple or Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage or Crypt of Agadeem + Deserted Temple or Gaea's Cradle / Serra's Sanctum could cause quite a bit of trouble also. All of these lands see play in our group. Finding any of them with Prime Time could dramatically swing the game.


    All of the cards you named are either trash tier, require some other factor, and/or can be dealt with through one of many board sweepers. Cabal/Urborg are the only combination that require an opponent to NEED land destruction.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Discussion of the Official Multiplayer Banlist
    Quote from LouCypher »
    I have my doubts about Prime Time. While his "brokeness" is up for debate, his overcentralizing nature isn't. I'm all for reevaluating banned cards, but I'd rather and sooner see Sylvan Primordial, personally. Protean Hulk, Panoptic Mirror and Painter's Servant, however, I 100% favor unbanning (OK, 70% on the mirror, I have some reservations on that one)


    That means nothing. All that happened was that the over centralizing nature went to the next broken card. Basically, we are just totem pole banning at this stage. So unless Craterhoof Behemoth, Grave Titan, Koko, and Consecrated Sphinx are next on the agenda, there was no issue in multiple playgroups of just cloning/bribary the next best thing.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    As of 1795, he is voting kami. Also, add Rhand's vote to my own. Neither your post or his showed up while I was sifting =/
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    Sorry, should say 4 on Karn, didn't count the double vote. And I thought kami had a lot more votes when I said times up. WG or Karn is what I meant.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    As of Annorax's last count:

    Wheat - 3 - Karn, Hansanator, Wildfire
    Karn - 1 - LnGrrR
    Bur - 1 - TCM

    This is how I have seen the change:

    Wheat - 5 - Karn, Hansanator, Rhand, TCM, Kami
    Kami - 1 - Wildfire
    Karn - 3 - DCII, KJ, KJ, LnGrrR
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    Alright, times up. Kami or Karn?
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on xkcd Mafia - Signups
    /in. Let's give it a go.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    While true, you also state that even if we successfully get the re director today, Wildfire shooting is incredibly risky, assuming queen has had maximum success rate.

    I will vote Kami if nothing else can occur, simply because a no-lynch is by far the worse thing to do. WG is my vote for now, ill check back in a few hours, as tomorrow I don't know how my posting will be.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    What do you mean "look for the redirector"? The only post I assume you are referencing is the one that has your theory on what happens on the flip of today.

    I will not be voting kami. He is one of the few PRs who has confirmed his role, even though role cop isn't auto town. WG/Karn should be the lynch today, the former for basically scum posting, his interactions with Rhand, and while I was looking back yesterday, his interaction/defense of kpaca's "gotcha" looked a lot like distancing between him and Kpaca. The latter I would do basically on policy. I don't really have much of his today's action as he is been too lurky, but his posts while here have been almost irrelevant.

    As far as KJ goes, I could not see any reason for him to reveal his double vote unless he was forced to claim before. As a mafia, keeping that in the dark means they can speed lynch an extra day ahead than normal (I want to hear about these games later Arianrhod, OoG).
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Star Trek: Myriad Universes Mafia III: NIGHT 4
    Quote from Wheat_Grinder »
    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Wheat_Grinder »
    You implied heavily that you could not be scum because the small number of VT claims indicated that those claims were all true. I disagree, and the rule of three disproves the idea that all three claims must be true. Did I then use it as extra leverage? Damn right I did; I'll take any nail to help shut the lid on your coffin.

    No, I will not be voting LnGrrrR if you somehow aren't scum because I don't think he is scum. The main crux of my argument against you is your shifty response to TCM and it always has been; the rule of three is merely supporting reasoning and *NOT* a guarantee.

    I only think the rule of three is applicable in this case because I'm pretty sure you're scum.

    Your implying routine is getting boring. Stop putting words in my mouth please.
    I like how that theory of 3 is only applicable if it helps getting me lynches. You're full of ****.

    Can we lynch Wheat now please?


    I'll stop implying if you start telling me what you really mean when I'm supposedly wrong about what you mean. As far as I see it there is *0* reason for you to ask me if I believe there are only two VTs if you aren't trying to make me think that there have to be 3 VTs. What's your version then, if my assumption is wrong?

    Read my ******* post again if you think I'm full of *****, I explained EXACTLY why I think that way. Stop misrepping my intentions.

    I am spending a lot of time laying out reasoning on you and your refusal to explain why you think it's wrong speaks volumes.

    Please can we lynch Kami before I feel compelled to drop my vote on Rhand and never move it? I'm getting really close to doing that but Kami is the better lynch.


    My reponse to dropping a vote on Rhand at this stage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iv4jzVapDs
    Posted in: Mafia
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