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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day1 Lights are ON
    Killjoy has been lynched. With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

    Vote count reset.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day1 Lights are ON
    Vote Count 1.0

    Killjoy (3): tomsloger, D_V, Cantripmancer (L-2)

    Not Voting (5) Killjoy, zomgarcwind, shadowlancerx, Megiddo, Anaklusmos

    99 hours remain.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day1 Lights are ON
    It is now Day 1. With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

    Let the battle begin.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day1 Lights are ON
    Town PM

    You are Vanilla Town

    You have no abilities other than your vote, and you win when all the threats to the town are eliminated.

    Key rules to remember:

    1). A day can have any number of lynches. When a player is lynched, they are removed from the game, but their alignment will not be revealed until the end of the phase. The votecount resets after all lynches.

    2). This game is all vanilla. There are no PRs on either side.

    3). The deadline is only 120 hours for the day phase, and 24 hours for the night phase so use your time wisely.

    4). You are expected to make a bare minimum of 5 posts within a day phase, or at least one post per 24 hours, due to the structure and pace of the game.

    5). Always remember to have fun!

    Awaiting confirmations.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day1 Lights are ON
    1. shadowlancerx
    2. D_V
    3. Megiddo
    4. zomgarcwind
    5. Cantripmancer
    6. tomsloger
    7. Anaklusmos
    8. Killjoy

    Pms being sent out.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    No judgment. Sundays are just sometimes awkward days to start since activity can be low.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    Do you really want the game to start on a Sunday?
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    ONE MORE AND WE CAN START MONDAY!-:)
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    I'll tentatively /replace, but this will change to an /in if I'm killed in one of my games/one of my games ends.

    That is, if you'll have me, GJ, after the Mistletoe Puppies fiasco over on MafiaUniverse...


    Well, in a perfect world I'd start Monday, end Saturday morning, start Sunday, so only part of the day would be on the weekend.
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    posted a message on Muslim Ban and SEE YOU IN COURT
    You addressed the Saudi Arabia part, but not the collateral damage part about his ban being worded so poorly, it ended up targeting citizens or people with green cards who were vetted and living here legally as well.

    Kahedron's point I assume you also brushed away. And you plan on condemning the KKK for all the domestic terrorism they perpetrated since post Civil War times?
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    posted a message on Muslim Ban and SEE YOU IN COURT
    Quote from Xul »
    Good for him!
    Baning entrance from the seven countries with historical connections to terrorism and with the majority of population being a part of a religion that is deeply connected with the largest number of terrorist attacks in human history...terrorist attack specifically in the name of religion...is probably the best idea that Trump have had recently. I don't care for liberals crying how this is not right because it is discriminatory because in the end it keeps people safe or at the very least lowers the odds of an terrorist attack from a foreigner entering the US. If Europe had done the same two years ago and banned immigrants access to their countries for the sake of their own people than maybe there would have been less terrorist attacks made by terrorists who came to Europe alongside immigrants, but no, not looking racist and being PC was more important to the leaders of European countries than the safety of their own people.
    Good for Trump! I fully support his decision.


    If there was any facts to what you said, you should be pissed off that the ban did not target Saudi Arabia. Not only was this ban a blatant violation of most AMERICAN RIGHTS as citizens of states were detained, but it didn't even target one of the primary players in the 9/11 attacks.
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    I'm salty about that for a lot of reasons, bit not from you.

    Your on replace, hopefully in
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    Four more!
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    Quote from zomgarcwind »
    DV's eyes glow in the dark, we will know whether or not to follow him


    Did you want to in, comrade?
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    posted a message on US Election Day and results thread 2016
    Quote from warghoul »
    Well he funds groups that are no way inline with the right so I find it interesting to say the least.


    If you were going to call someone out for being a puppet of Soros, it might make more sense to pick a Republican who isn't lockstep with the party. McCain is pretty much as establishment as you can be, while being a little bit more pro-military and veterans than your average right man. The only things that makes him even remotely close to the left is his hatred of Trump (which, isn't hard to see why if you look at their interactions both before and after the election)
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    posted a message on US Election Day and results thread 2016
    Sessions confirmed as Secretary of State. And Trump bitches about the speed of the nominations, ignoring how long it took his predecessors.

    Maybe Sessions has seen the error of his ways from back then, maybe not?

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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Electric Boogaloo: Sign Ups 1 slot left!
    Welcome to the power of Micro

    This is a unique style of game that changes the game of normal mafia to an exercise of trust, and mystery. The game will consist of 8 people, 2 mafia members, and 6 townie members. Unlike other games of mafia, a lynch will not end the day. The day will continue until either the deadline runs out, or the majority of players are voting no lynch. Alignments of players will not be revealed until the end of the day. This is an open set-up, with all players being vanilla. This game is a much faster pacing with at least one post being expected per day, and the phases lasting 120 hours for the day, and 24 hours for the night. You may sign up for this fun by /in down below.

    In the Light
    1. shadowlancerx
    2. D_V
    3. Megiddo
    4. zomgarcwind
    5. Cantripmancer
    6. tomsloger
    7. Anaklusmos
    8.

    In the Grey (subs)
    1.
    2.

    In the Dark (dead)
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    Shush, Scum.

    @ Megiddo, please vote to empower Cyan.

    Once that's done, we can lynch the Scum.


    No one asked you, heathan.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    I think we got all we can get here. I'm not talking my way out of this. Let's press on, evaluate my wagon and move on.

    Wf > Tammy > Anak
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Axelrod »
    I put it out there more than once that if anyone knew a reason why the scum might have missed a NK other than DV's doc protect they really ought to speak up about it, and GJ said precisely nothing, so, that doesn't look great.

    GJ: why didn't you say something/anything?


    You mean, why didn't drop any hints that there might be a protective role? Shrugs.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    @GJ: please clarify, can your 0 ability target other people than yourself? And are you saying that night 2 you used your -2 ability? If so, where did your empowerment come from?


    I started with two. And my 0 can only target me.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    @GJ: who were your targets both nights? I'm assuming that Axelrod was last night.


    I just 0 night 1
    Axel N2
    And I have 1 empowerment right now


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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Then Srppel ****ed up his code. The 1 implies I have a passive ability, and he would give it to either iso or SC. I also implied there was no list on page 1,I got it from the spoiler on day 2. The no 1 is basically saying don't take me passive.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    target player dies. Don't know why that got deleted.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    -0 Bulletproof
    -2 Me and target are Bulletproof
    -5 The next time I would die
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Yes.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    I agree with tomofslogsville.

    LYNCH ME YOU FILTHY CASUALSALS

    MAKE MY DAY

    BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL

    PUNISH THE TOWN

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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    You know what, no I can't say that with good conscious.

    Seppel, you were an awesome person. Actually, the only surprise was that you looked younger than the what my mind perceived you to be based on mafia. I don't know why I expected older, but I did.

    guess I wouldn't be getting 2-3 strikes.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Sorry.

    GJ, flame me to get modkilled so we can resolve your slot.
    Quote from Seppel »
    Sorry.

    GJ, flame me to get modkilled so we can resolve your slot.


    I thought you were one ugly mother****er when I met you at Gen Con.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    I don't trust any plan with Seppel's filthy paws on it.
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    posted a message on US Election Day and results thread 2016
    Quote from Ljoss »
    Trump went off today on fake news outlets Buzzfeed and CNN. There are plenty of things that are going to be bad about a Trump presidency, but this campaign that he's running against the garbage in the media is fantastic. Here's the video evidence.
    Quote from Ljoss »
    Trump went off today on fake news outlets Buzzfeed and CNN. There are plenty of things that are going to be bad about a Trump presidency, but this campaign that he's running against the garbage in the media is fantastic. Here's the video evidence.


    Nobody hear will deny Buzzfeed has a strong lbieral biased, but calling that fake news would be like me calling Fox "fake news".
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    His attack on me was basically blaming me that I couldn't vote more than one person at a time. I had a hierarchy, went for Bur first, and he accused me of trying to set-up Wild as another mislynch and Anak basically as a distance. It was a crap case then, and it still is now. The only reason I would even care about it would be if I thought TIM was a wolf. Considering he is a strong town read, it is more or less just "lolsTIM" and move on. Aside from a headache, there would be nothing to gain from disputing that case.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Clarify what you mean by some divine circumstance.


    Ctr+F Divine, and you are the only person on this page to actually use that word, so explain what you mean.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Did I just wonder into a Denny's, because this game is a Grand Slam.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Cythare »
    I'm not sure how you categorize that as attacking.


    Rolleyes
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    You can't even ignore me properly.

    You are still going to bruise through me, anak and and Shadow and then get so confused why the mafia team won at the end.

    Seppel attacking Axel is pretty lolsy.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    "Something magical like...killing the Scum team?"

    Was your answer to me saying WF was still PoE, regardless of my death or alignment. Are you really going to tell me with a straight face what you didn't mean was that if WF started shooting wolves?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    My stance on WF has nothing to do with you or how ******* condescending you are being to me Today.

    Back to ignoring you it is, I see.


    Trying to get you to stop making stupid assumptions isn't being condescending. I am sorry you feel that way.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Also, HOW IS HE GOING TO KILL THE SCUM TEAM IF YOU DONT WANT TO EMPOWER HIM?!?!!?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    The point that you seem to just be purposefully ignorant to Manders is that unless something magical happened, WF isn't out of the PoE. Even if I do die today, regardless of my flip, don't you just go into WF tomorrow?

    The only difference here is that if WF is a wolf, he is going to get empowerment and then shoot someone else.
    Something magical like...killing the Scum team?

    Seriously, it doesn't take magic to win the game. If WF is Town and just really bad at it AS I'VE PROPOSED, then we can absolutely win the game without having to lynch him.

    If he's Scum, his time will come.

    You guys are acting like I think he's CONFIRMED TOWN and will NEVER be willing to lynch him. That's absolutely the farthest from the truth WHICH YOU'D KNOW IF YOU READ MY POSTS, so this is why I say you are insulting my intelligence.

    Purposefully ignorant. I want to rage at you so bad right now.


    There is no way that you don't look at WF upon my death. The only difference is that if you are wrong on WF, you lose two townies. Yes WF is "outted" today, but the fact that he pretty much disappeared pretty much speaks volumes to the fact he can't believe he is still alive.

    Like, I flip town. LETS LOOK AT WF SINCE GJ, SC, AND DV were all on the WF wolf train.

    I flip wolf, "DO WE REALLY WANT A ROGUE VIG RUNNING AROUND?

    You are just so desperate to protect him, aren't you? You ignored my reasoning on his DV shot making no sense, and you ignore reasoning here as well to push your own emotional agenda. Because I upset you or something.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    The point that you seem to just be purposefully ignorant to Manders is that unless something magical happened, WF isn't out of the PoE. Even if I do die today, regardless of my flip, don't you just go into WF tomorrow?

    The only difference here is that if WF is a wolf, he is going to get empowerment and then shoot someone else.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    I should review TIM because I don't remember why he's town.

    Also GJ has run away.


    Nope. Just yelling at high school kids to do their work.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Like, seriously. Have you had a single original thought this game Cythare?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Cythare »
    @Manders: I just need 2 empowerment. Anything beyond that would not be usable toNight.

    Quote from Seppel »
    Oh, it just occurred to me why GJ is losing interest in the game when we're literally on an exciting high of information:

    Inevitability.

    He's scum, and he can't see a way to win against the growing, unstoppable townbloc.
    I agree with this. Why didn't this come with a vote, though?


    How original.

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    posted a message on US Election Day and results thread 2016
    I think what's amusing to me is how facebook groups like "Occupy Democrats Logic" or "RedPolitics" are still slamming Clinton right now, and liberals in general. Like, come January 20th, Republicans are going to be in the driver's seat, there isn't much you can blame on liberals right now. It's actually just point blank embarrassing.

    Also, Mitch McConnell really needs to be thrown out on his ass. I don't know what kind of drugs he is on, but the amount of double talk he is on is just ridiculous. Almost like he doesn't know what the internet is, or how ridiculous he looks. I realize he is a Reagan Republican, all the way to the 11th commandment, but still.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Attacking someone =/= OMGUS. OMGUS = either voting the player, or calling that player a wolf after they call you a wolf/vote for you. Just in case you forgot Wink

    And just for you, ignoring WF, I would say PoE points to the team in Seppel > Cythare. Maybe put Anak back in if one of those flips town, but shadow is still likely town.
    See, he's trying to crush the townbloc and failing.
    Quote from Seppel »
    GJ what's your read on me aside from useless? Because I feel like you've called me scum yet you're talking like I'm a chum.


    You are the only one on. And you aren't actively doing/saying stupid things.
    You can't even call me town or scum?


    How does Iso actually put up with you?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Oh, it just occurred to me why GJ is losing interest in the game when we're literally on an exciting high of information:

    Inevitability.

    He's scum, and he can't see a way to win against the growing, unstoppable townbloc.


    Well then, just lynch me. Let WF shoot another townie, if that's what it takes.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    GJ what's your read on me aside from useless? Because I feel like you've called me scum yet you're talking like I'm a chum.


    You are the only one on. And you aren't actively doing/saying stupid things.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Attacking someone =/= OMGUS. OMGUS = either voting the player, or calling that player a wolf after they call you a wolf/vote for you. Just in case you forgot Wink

    And just for you, ignoring WF, I would say PoE points to the team in Seppel > Cythare. Maybe put Anak back in if one of those flips town, but shadow is still likely town.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    Quote from Manders »
    You had stopped being a dick. I don't know why you feel the need to insult rather than just play the game, but ok.

    So IF we lynch you and IF you flip Town, other than WF, who should we look into? Who do you think are the last Scum?


    How about you answer the ******* point, that you were wrong about your OMGUS, rather than just calling me a dick for the umpteenth time.
    2nd time.

    Are you not attacking those who are voting you?

    Case closed. Now you answer MY question. Or replace out if you're not going to play the game.


    Anyone voting me over wildfire is either town mislynching or a wolf. Anyone who voted Bur was town mislynching or a wolf. This isn't rocket science either.

    Case closed my ass. This is how people like Trump get to win the White House: Some person thinks making a *****ty strawman and then states 'case closed' is good enough for a debate.

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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Oh boy are we having another uselessness contest?
    Quote from Seppel »
    Oh boy are we having another uselessness contest?


    I wouldn't dare try to match you tit for tat.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    You had stopped being a dick. I don't know why you feel the need to insult rather than just play the game, but ok.

    So IF we lynch you and IF you flip Town, other than WF, who should we look into? Who do you think are the last Scum?


    How about you answer the ******* point, that you were wrong about your OMGUS, rather than just calling me a dick for the umpteenth time.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    GJ should I vote you to punish you for not caring?
    Quote from Seppel »
    GJ should I vote you to punish you for not caring?


    Probably. Only after you vote yourself (if you are town) for pulling such a ***** gambit. What exactly did you do, apart from cause chaos and dissent, and only outted yourself after 3 players were all spiked and no passive abilities were revealed?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Cyan: Declares he has to be town based on his progression and tunneling on me and Anak

    tom: Likely lock town due to interactions with DV

    Manders: Still in the town pile, just not top tier town, and this was long before you voted me

    Wildfire: Was voting him day 1 when I was his strongest town read

    What the **** are you watching? I know you are supposed to be ignoring me, but seriously. What ******* game are you watching? Do you even remember what the acroynym OMGUS means, or are you as bad as Cyan and just like spewing off random mafia lingo to try and make yourself sound right? You have the most posts in this than any other player, yet it feels like you have said the ******* least about anyone else. I liked you before because of tone, and slightly similiar reads. That's it. I don't know what ******* trip your on, or if you just think barning Cyan is still the correct play after all these years, but after I flip, I suggest you take a good look in the mirror, and re-evaluate your reads before you sink the whole game.

    Or, if you are a wolf. Keep wolfing ;). When I die, you are going to start being looked at anyway.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    Why is it sad that Tom has the best reads? He's participating well, he's town, and I like how he came about with his reads.


    I was pretty much wolf reading him all the way until DV revealed his reason for tom being almost lock town. I suppose if I cared about the sub game, megs probably has the best instincts.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    Quote from Seppel »
    Why is it sad that Tom has the best reads? He's participating well, he's town, and I like how he came about with his reads.
    Because they include GJ as Scum.

    He's just OMGUSing his way through this Day.


    Manders

    Because I like and respect you, I am going to ask you to read my posts towards those three players before I rip you the **** apart and take that back.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    I have always had a rule in every game I do that if I am not having fun, I need to stop playing.

    It's sad, but I am not having fun on mtgs anymore. In a way, it's a shadow of the game I used to remember I love. I blame Curse for about 95% of the issues, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a problem. The only reason I have stayed as long as I have is that I like quite a few of the players I play with. And I despise replacements. I might be an ********, but I'll be damned if I ever turn into a hypocrite.

    The secret to being the ultimate wall? Ultimately not caring.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Seppel »
    *Points to wagon*

    *Points to people who were voting WF previously*
    GIVE ME NAMES.

    CLEARLY YOURE UPSET ENOUGH TO KNOW WHO YOURE GOING TO BE LAUGHING AT, RIGHT?


    I don't actually care.

    Manders, Cyan, tom to a lesser extent. Normally I would just hit a button and see the vote count, so going back is irritating. I would rather just do nothing.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    It is sad to me that tom has the best reads of the lot because at least he still thinks WF is scum. Just scum with me.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    *Points to wagon*

    *Points to people who were voting WF previously*
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Also, nice wolf pop.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Anyone who thinks I am a wolf and WF is town.

    And your right, it isn't about punishment. It's about recognizing bad play from wolf play, and understanding that two aren't mutually exclusive.

    (and I know. I am trying to be all angry, and my phone puts the wrong thing in. Really. Twice now in a 24 hour period. It's tilting sometimes).
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Sorry Manders, I didn't realize all we did this game was sing Kumbia and let bad plays go unpunished. Clearly, I just don't get it anymore.

    Can't compete. I don't even want to see your list because I going by your poe, I could probably turn it upside down and be ok with it.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Thanks johnny.
    Your endorsement means a lot :eyeroll:

    Where's your fire, bro?
    Growl at someone. Stir ***** up.
    We'll ignore whatever you say anyway because antispew, but it will be cathartic


    1). DV made a very valid point about why he isn't dead. It really isn't my opinion, I just agree with someone else's.

    2). I would rather you just lynch me. I want to see these ****ers just try to come back from it. IT astonishes me Wildfire wasn't just auto dunked for that DV shot. I made a really valid point that his DV shot made no sense when both Manders and Seppel was reading wolfier than him.

    3). 99.9% is not a great statistic, mate.

    4). Work on your trolling skills tom.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    @Megs

    tom is pretty much confirmed. Or decided not to let his buddies know to shoot DV. There is a < 100% chance DV dies last night if tom was wolf.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Did you ask him if he has any empowerment left, or did that bright idea escape you?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Like litterally, the fact that you brush aside everything else I said to focus on the caveat, says everything I need to know about your approach today.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Manders »
    Manders, use your ******* brain.
    Don't be a jerk. What about my posts makes you think I am NOT using my brain? The fact that I thought about it WITH MY BRAIN for 3 days?

    Get over yourself.


    You ******* aren't if you think I am a better lynch than WF.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Cythare »
    Setting aside my own read on him for now, you don't think that someone who can kill others but requires support from other players to do so can't be trusted to play as Vanilla? Reading him as scum is one thing, but your black and white interpretation of "have him kill or lynch him" ignores a third option. If he gets no empowerment toDay, then he shouldn't be able to quick draw. If he does still quick draw tomorrow despite receiving no empowerment, we definitely have a problem and he is insta-dead.

    I'll respond to the rest of your stuff later.


    We don't know how much empowerment he has, if he gets pumped by his buddies, or even if he started with 1. DV started with a negative number. It isn't impossible to imagine Wild probably started at 0 or 1.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    --Town--
    TheIceMan
    Gentleman Johnny
    shadowlancerx
    Axelrod
    Cyan
    Cythare
    Anaklusmos
    Iso
    tomsloger
    Seppel
    D_V
    Manders
    Tordeck
    --Scum--
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    Can we lynch Seppel yet?
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    I kinda wonder if Iso is playing the same game as the rest of us. His scumteam (in addition to containing literally half the game) looks a lot like my townblock. Minus Seppel, of course.
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    ok wildfire.
    This is your list from a couple weeks ago.

    Those bottom few names still who you want to shoot?


    I'm probably shooting seppel
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    GJ wagon seems iffy. Cyan wagon seems iffy. I still don't get why Anak was ever wagoned. Seppel wagon I can get behind but I'm probably just shooting that fool today anyways.

    I'm back at home with normal internet access so I'll try to be more active toDay.
    Quote from Azrael »
    A QUICKDRAW HAS ENSUED BETWEEN Wildfire AND DV!!!

    The Rules:

    If DV votes for Wildfire first, Wildfire will die.

    If Wildfire votes DV first, DV will die.

    Be quick, or be dead.


    Tell me Wildfire, why didn't you shoot at Manders/Seppel? Yes, DV was in your list, but you barely mention him at all, and went in today pretty much going "Shoot Seppel, Shoot Seppel"?
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    GJ
    Why did you empower Wildfire yesterday?


    If he isn't going to die, might as well use him. Him shooting outside of the PoE is a death sentence anyway.

    Oh look he shot out of the PoE on one of the townies players in the game.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    The funny part Cyan. I don't even think you are a wolf. I can't believe you would push me with a straight face as a wolf the way you are now. Like, it's inconceivable to me. You don't make plays like that, or tunnel that hard as a wolf. You just keep snapping the same traps over again, hoping this time will be the one.

    Quote from Cyan »
    This is the definition of flailing scum. GJ knows that he is getting lynched ultimately, and is just trying to pull through one more town mislynch first, by any means necessary. Especially since WF is basically the Vig.


    Quote from Also Cyan »
    People need to really read statements like this when they are made. GJ isn't really saying that he isn't scum, he's just saying 'but this game isn't part of my scum meta wahhhhh!'.

    This is a great example of the Caught For The Wrong Reasons tell.


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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Cyan »
    I don't make ***** up as either alignment and I don't flail. Except for right now

    Post time.


    FTFY


    Nicky, I wish you had half the skill in mafia you used to have. I want GooCyan, not ******* AACyan.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance Night 5
    Quote from Tordeck »
    @Iso - What you call a mistake I call purposeful disinformation. WF made a claim that while I'm not the only one that could call him out on it I am the best to do so as I obviously know my own meta best. It is my theory that he was banking on me missing it or getting enough people behind it before I could call him on it that it wouldn't matter what I said in my defense. Unfortunately for him I am actually paying attention to what it is going on and he got caught. After tom, WF is the best candidate for a scum lynch toDay.
    Quote from Sir Chris »
    ##unvote: tom
    ##vote: WF


    Okay seriously.
    Quote from Manders »
    Quote from Tordeck »
    Quote from Cythare »
    @Tordeck: What are your thoughts on Anak?
    Lynchable. Tom is the better candidate though.
    Why?
    Quote from Seppel »
    I have no idea what the person who told me what to do with my night action was trying to tell me to do, so I moved Iso's passives to DV.

    My loyalty is now up for bid.

    Empower me to claim one of the following:

    (1) Empowerment in return.
    (2) Your choice of who I move passives from/to.

    D_V did you get any kind of notification of being targeted last night?
    Vote Wildfire

    1). He is as low impact as Anak is.

    2). SC was digging him pretty hard.

    Sorry, finals week. super low energy.
    I support this avenue as well.
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from Cythare »
    A scum role or a scum play? Roles are potentially randomized.
    both

    If you're town with that role you try to hit scum. Obviously.
    Manders did think I was scum I guess. So if shes town that checks out.

    I guess randomized roles is a thing though

    Sigh
    I didn't target you because I think you're Scum. (Though I do. That hasn't changed.) I targeted you because I think you empowered Scum Yesterday. Can't have that.
    Quote from Iso »
    Quote from Seppel »
    I have no idea what the person who told me what to do with my night action was trying to tell me to do, so I moved Iso's passives to DV.

    My loyalty is now up for bid.

    Empower me to claim one of the following:

    (1) Empowerment in return.
    (2) Your choice of who I move passives from/to.


    Joke's on you, I didn't have a passive. And if D_V had one, you're lying.
    Why is he lying? I don't recall him saying he swaps passives, so you shouldn't have gotten any from D_V if he has any.
    Quote from Tordeck »
    More intentional disinformation by WF.

    Tom, WF, Anak scum team for sure.
    Quote from Cythare »
    Also don't like wildfire's post - the first part of his post feels like fishing disguised as a question to "why tom", the second part feels like a smear attempt rather than an actual attempt at engaging Tordeck (who I'm coming to realize requires actual investigation into his motivation since his base play looks scummy in a vacuum), and the third part is wifom.
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    im last?
    im gonna be so consensusy


    Wolfy.
    Quote from Wildfire393 »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    im last?
    im gonna be so consensusy


    If you're really worried about this, write it now and PM it to someone.
    lolol
    reading this as serious is wolfy
    Quote from Manders »
    Since I will not be able to do this once I leave work (and it is a completely random list, anyway...)

    Gentleman Johnny - No clue
    Seppel - Neutral who should be ignored
    Wildfire393 - Scum
    Manders - What Little Girls Are Made Of
    D_V - Town
    Anaklusmos - Scum
    Cythare - Leaning Scum
    Tordeck - No clue
    Axelrod - Heavily leaning Town
    Iso - Leaning Town
    Cyan - Leaning Town
    shadowlancerx - Slightly leaning Scum
    TheIceMan - Probably Town
    tomsloger - Heavily leaning Scum
    Quote from Cythare »
    I can just go now so I don't hold things up later.

    Strong Town:
    D_V
    shadowlancerx
    TheIceMan

    Lean Town:
    Axelrod
    Tordeck
    Gentleman Johnny

    IDK/Neutral:
    Cyan
    Seppel

    Lean Scum:
    tomsloger*
    Iso
    Manders

    Strong Scum:
    Wildfire
    Anaklusmos

    *Would be a stronger scum read, but cannot be scum with Anaklusmos, who seems much more likely.
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    Sure that's fine:

    Shadow
    DV
    Axel

    GJ
    Cythare

    Iceman
    Iso

    Manders
    Tom
    Anak

    Tordeck
    Cyan
    Wildfire


    Neutral
    Seppel

    When I made this list I totally forgot Wildfire said he was going to suicide, so that should be fun.
    I dislike that most of my strong scum reads are also some of the lowest posters, but I feel like the higher posters have been pretty townie. I would not be at all surprised if there is a deep wolf in my greens, and another wolf in my yellows. Anything higher would surprise me at this point.
    Anak's post about wagon analysis felt like him actually doing something for the first time this game, and while I initially had him lower down, I'm moving him to yellow for the time being.
    Seppel, I want you to tilt me. No one is doing ***** anyway, maybe we can make a reaction. YOu know you want to do it.

    Let me ask a question to anyone else: It feels very few people have town Wildfire/Anak over any other players (mixed on me, Iso, Tim, even someone had a wolf read on Axel, I think). I feel a bit worried that there is too much concensus going on, even before lists are done.
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Why are we making these lists? Because DV asked for them?

    I'm probably pretty close to where I was yesterday, in that I haven't really reviewed anything in light of Chris/Bur flips. What I want to do, and probably will when I have more time, is a full-on wagon analysis of Bur. Like I used to do, in the good old days...sigh.

    Anyway, it's currently something like:

    Strongly Leaning Town:

    TheIceMan
    Manders
    DV

    Leaning Town:

    Shadow
    GJ

    Neutral:

    Cyan
    Wildfire
    Cythare

    Leaning Scum:

    Iso
    Seppel
    Anak

    Strongly Leaning Scum:

    Tom
    Tordeck



    These are just a handful of posts of people posting reads between day 2 both before and after Wildfire shot Tordeck. Litterally TIM was the only person who even suggested WF could be lean town, and while tom made a single comment about it being a great ability, there was little trust to be gained. Wild wasn't being pushed as hard as I thought as I remembered, but I dare any ******* one of you with a straight face to tell me WF was not in the crosshairs for day 2 or going into TODAY. No one asked him about his empowerment requirement or tried to actually pump him up. You either think he is town and should want to pump him up to make sure we can't get two lynches, or you lynch him so he can't basically keep chain gunning townies. There is no inbetween. And since he is claiming he only needs one empowerment to fire, and tried to not even go for the big hero shot, not shooting into PoE, just a big "I THINK DV IS WOLF" shot, and you pretty much brush it off as "lolWF".

    Whatever. Shadow, take a gamble on wildfire tonight. Manders, use your ******* brain. And start evaluating. Or, continue to sink yourself. If I get lynched over someone who shot two of the more obvious town players in this game, I don't want to actually win.
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