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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Okay. I was asleep until 4PM, had class, then chatting with friends because life. Phase ends? Getting my post count in before Twilight is over, on the computer.

    Did a quick skim.
    I guess Shadow jailed me, though he didn't seem to say so. Expected that, with how I entered Twilight the previous phase. Thanks for the save, I guess?
    Last hammered himself.. That adds to my townlean. Though, he apparently claimed vanilla and was tracked? No idea what to make of it.
    If Johnny was redirected to Killjoy, that adds to the possibility that KJ is town. Unless scum redirected towards themselves.
    I think Sloth is town from the previous EoD reaction.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Rhand - town desperado - d2 tom
    axel - town bodyguard - unknow targets
    previous best guess (and still optimal play for axel based on what he thought): n2 shadow
    ITF - vanilla town/d1 mislynch


    Shadow - Jailkeeper - n1 zds, n2 kj

    Zds - unclaimed, <informed by others>



    Umami - tracker - n1 vaimes, n2 sloth (no results)
    GJ - watcher - n1 zds (tubba/shadow), n2 blocked

    Dawning - governor - d2 pardoned jack
    Kj - judge - d2 kills ____

    Jack/vaimes/last/sloth/rod - claimed vanilla

    tubba - mafia (kinda godfather, kinda vig)
    Interesting. I guess it's a dichotomy. Killjoy is townlean for me though.
    As for Umami and GJ, I did remember Umami having a positive look from D1.
    The rest are in random places. Shadow being jailer should be self-resolving.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Of course I wake up to this.

    Quick setup question: Is there literally a dichotomy between me and DBS? I'm incluned to say no because we do different things but I wanna check before I fire.

    I'm honestly questioning that. Mechanics aren't all that easy, so hmmmmmm.
    ...what is happening, the last game we played together you would do nothing but talk mechanics. It's how you insisted I was scum. Am I thinking of someone else?
    Out of everyone, you should understand. It's precisely because of that game I won't push mechanics much.
    I don't follow. I thought you were mostly right that game?

    The doctor roulette/reviver/lightning rod, they all could manipulate the NK to an extent (don't forget the backup). Didn't see how they could all be town but they were.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from tomsloger »
    No umami im not being serious im flailing around not knowing what to think

    If i die tonight my legacy is
    lynch the wolves please
    This is funny.


    Quote from Vaimes »
    I kind of don't really think Jack is scum anymore, so that's neat.

    Kill His Royal Saltiness, Rodemy.
    Mindmeld.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Slothful »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Of course I wake up to this.

    Quick setup question: Is there literally a dichotomy between me and DBS? I'm incluned to say no because we do different things but I wanna check before I fire.

    I'm honestly questioning that. Mechanics aren't all that easy, so hmmmmmm.
    ...what is happening, the last game we played together you would do nothing but talk mechanics. It's how you insisted I was scum. Am I thinking of someone else?
    Out of everyone, you should understand. It's precisely because of that game I won't push mechanics much.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Vaimes »
    I'm honestly questioning that. Mechanics aren't all that easy, so hmmmmmm.
    ???

    Don't you pride yourself on being a mechanical player?
    I do! They aren't as easy as what everyone is saying though, for clarification.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Of course I wake up to this.

    Quick setup question: Is there literally a dichotomy between me and DBS? I'm incluned to say no because we do different things but I wanna check before I fire.

    I'm honestly questioning that. Mechanics aren't all that easy, so hmmmmmm.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Jackrito »
    Quote from tomsloger »
    If jack is town it was still incorrect to pardon him


    It was my death was needed for game state. You should only pardon a lynch if maj agree it was a mistake and not when game state is this good.

    It was a waste of a good ablity and created more issues.
    I find it disturbing that you're advocating your lynch. Had I known you were this suicidal, I would have refrained. /facepalm
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from Jackrito »
    If I knew they was any chance of that lynch being overturned I would of not done anything. The one time I try something fancy before dying. I get pulled back into it after to be lynched again. If KJ is real please overturn it I don't want to be in the exact same gamestate again. Its painful for my pride enough to be mislynced once having to endure it a second time and it being much worse is a personal hell for me and hard to come back from as a player.
    I don't quite regret using my ability with this post.

    Jack was a positive look to begin with, given his early-game posts. It's a bit questionable that he said he was scum, but I believe the risk is worth it.
    I don't recall if the phase was near EOD, but FOS on Rodemy/Last for bringing things to an end so soon.



    so soon? Dude it was like 8 hours to deadline.
    I see. Still questionable, but not as much, then.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Jackrito »
    If I knew they was any chance of that lynch being overturned I would of not done anything. The one time I try something fancy before dying. I get pulled back into it after to be lynched again. If KJ is real please overturn it I don't want to be in the exact same gamestate again. Its painful for my pride enough to be mislynced once having to endure it a second time and it being much worse is a personal hell for me and hard to come back from as a player.
    I don't quite regret using my ability with this post.

    Jack was a positive look to begin with, given his early-game posts. It's a bit questionable that he said he was scum, but I believe the risk is worth it.
    I don't recall if the phase was near EOD, but FOS on Rodemy/Last for bringing things to an end so soon.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Hi
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    probably, he is wrong on me though
    PoE is still pretty tight so we just have to go through it
    and given my VT claim, and a roleblocker existing somewhere
    it's expected I will get heat

    I probably will have little time for this game starting tomorrow which sucks
    Phraze's reaction is probably NAI
    and IDK what a wolf!Phraze game even looks like, havent seen one since she pushed Logic for slanking while he was in a hurricane kek
    no idea what game that was though


    still think your test was pointless if you are town, everything just get's muddied
    I think a wolf might be more inclined to just pretend like they are happy you were hit, but then again that is how everyone should act
    regardless of their alignment, so

    Could just post only once in 2-3 days. The site phases are still 2 weeks, right? The pages are piling.
    And the game is Tales of Berseria. Not sure what my games look like, especially after a year break, but probably very formidable.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Jackrito »
    Hey I told you all I was town and gave you reasons why. I put a fair amount of work into this game. I just wanted to try something so calm down with the hate we would have had nothing to talk about anyway. Its not like you all would believe me if I just said I was town it did not work in day so why would it in twlight. I wanted to see if any of the reactions felt unnatural because I find scum struggle with curveballs and adapting to them. Nobody really stood out though I still think Vaimes is scum though. Really confused by KJ this game as well.
    Good grief.

    Quote from Jackrito »
    Quote from Jackrito »
    I could try and pretend I'm town still but no point. Having 2 scum games at once on 2 new sites. Was a bit too much for me mentally

    . Really annoyed at how much my scum game has fell.
    Oh wow, so you're scum? I guess town is doing fine without me.


    Actually this is the sort of reaction I would expect from scum more then town to what I did. But It's Phraze so who the hell knows if this means anything.
    I feel....
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Wait, actually... Killjoy claimed something?
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Dawning you probably have 36 hours or so. This game has twilights



    Coincidentally, KJ claimed a twilight ability where if we no lynch, he can choose who dies out of anybody who does NOT have the most votes. if everyone is tied, he gets to choose. Basically it's a kill that he gets to decide if there is a no lynch.
    I see. Sounds suspicious to be honest. But if we don't have a vig, I guess that's our KP.
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  • posted a message on Matter Mafia -- End Game: Sursamen Survives
    Quote from Jackrito »
    I could try and pretend I'm town still but no point. Having 2 scum games at once on 2 new sites. Was a bit too much for me mentally

    . Really annoyed at how much my scum game has fell.
    Oh wow, so you're scum? I guess town is doing fine without me.
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