Well, blues and ophidia are town. I for one believe him as far as what he told us.
I'm still firm that Torg is scum. Pretty sure that juls is as well from my re-read that I did. The not being active and lurking feels off.
I can't tell on shadow or Vaimes. It's quite possible that one of them is likely to be scum. But I feel like they can't both be scum.
I'm neutral on mog. I'm seeing a mix of town and scum from him, but as others have pointed out I'm not sure if it's just new town or if it's really scum.
I'll do my no lynch vote when I'm not on my phone. It doesn't like to bold stuff as I've learned from previewing my posts.
@blues, it flooded her whole house and damaged everything about two feet off the ground and below. So I've been trying to help her get new stuff. I will post about the game tonight (early tomorrow morning) when I'm off work.
Guys sorry that I haven't posted. I've been trying to help my sister out about two hours away. A dam broke and her house is flooding. I will post later tonight.
@Blues: Well that does change things. Given that I do believe you, I trust that Ophidia is town, so I'm listening. To answer another question of yours, I have no clue how to read Vaimes. I'm inclined to go with town, but given that I thought Ophidia was scum I could be wrong. I feel like the Scum team is somewhere in King, Osie, and potentially Mog and Megs.
@Shadow: Since I was also scum reading King, what did you see that makes you think he is scum?
Given the circumstances, I am going to go back to where I was before.
vote: Osie
Also, @Megs: I now have two tabs open because I'm afraid of getting ninja'ed by you.
Shadow, I intend to push more discussion by asking questions, which leads me to ask, can we get your current take on one of the things that has me somewhat confused. Which would be the current game position for Mog. Some are reading him as town, while others are reading him as scum. And it feels like they are reading him as either for the exact same reasons. Does that seem to be what it looks like as well to you? What's your current take on it? I know that you said that you are catching up, but I would like to know where you end up standing on this issue.
Like, Blues could be a goat, but I don't like their interactions with Mog or ELph. Though if ELph is in fact town, then the lock is a little risky. But less so in this game than other games since a scum!Blues can play the long game there. I do get the feeling that a duck is a duck, though, and Blues is just town. Which leaves me with the group I mentioned before unless I see more cues.
Osie, what jumped out at you that made you not like the interactions there? I'm trying to get the whole picture so that I can see what is being saw by you.
Megs, you still haven't replied as to why you are voting for Blues. Could you please answer as to why you are?
I still feel like Nago's 180 (Now Osie) was scummy, but I want to hear more from Osie since he's participating. And since I do want to hear more from him and it looks highly unlikely he's getting lynched today, I'm going to move to the other person who I suspected the most.
unvote vote ophidia
We are just over 48 hours from the lynch, so we are going to have to start coming together on votes.
Guys, we are just a few days out from the deadline. We have got to communicate more than we are now.
Wheat, can we get a vote count along with a timeline for deadline?
Vaimes, I'm worried too that we're going to get no where at this rate. It feels like only a few are invested in the game at this point.
I'm trying and will post more in the next few day. My kids are getting back to school, so am I and work decided that they weren't going to look at my new availability do I got scheduled close to forty hours this week and last.
Thanks wheat for the update. Welcome Osie! Hopefully adding you will help bring life back to the game. I wish you could answer the questions that I raised in regards to the previous player in your slot, but I know you cannot tell me what was going through his mind.
I'm torn between a few that I think are most likely to be scum. One is Ophidia because we can't discredit what happened when EL was here. There at the end he kinda flew off the handle really bad before Ophidia replaced. And yes, I know they're two different people, but we can't sit here and act like nothing EL said is important for Ophidia's slot.
The second person is Nago. One, because he hard 180'ed on us all with DV. (Obviously, we were all wrong and I wish I had more experience so that I could feel players better) and the other is because now he is lurking. He has very specific questions directed his way because of the way he turned. I pointed it out earlier in a post, (438 for those who are curious) and still we've heard nothing. He isn't V/LA or at least he didn't announce it to the thread that I saw (Wheat, can you confirm whether he pmed you on being V/LA) and now that we are questioning him he isn't answering. It felt less like he was really scum reading him and more like "okay, time to join this wagon to lynch town!"
The third person that I am questioning hard is Torg. The way that he responded to Blues has me bothered. He nonchalantly says his vote on DV didn't really matter but chose to throw it on there anyway. Blues addresses it pretty well in 441. Why? If you knew him having the most votes didn't really matter, why throw it on there, especially with no justification? (Again, I now understand that the DV lynch was bad.)
Nago bothers me the most of the three. He's not answering, and that flip all of a sudden feels wrong. vote Nago
Also, Blues, did you notice too that Nago used reasoning from before he said DV was town to later vote him as scum. You (Blues, #319) made those points thirty post before nago said DV was town, and then Nago used those same posts to say he was scum. #354 Nago reads EL and DV and TvT, then #384 says that DV is scum, referencing unanswered questions from #319 as to some of the reasoning why. It seems a little odd to me that it took him over 60 posts to go back to that and say he wanted more substance, and then deciding he was scum. Especially after saying he was town. Seems like a hard 180.
I can't say what it does either.
I will get to my claim, but I'm going to wait until others claim first for reasons that will become clear later.
As promised.
I'm still firm that Torg is scum. Pretty sure that juls is as well from my re-read that I did. The not being active and lurking feels off.
I can't tell on shadow or Vaimes. It's quite possible that one of them is likely to be scum. But I feel like they can't both be scum.
I'm neutral on mog. I'm seeing a mix of town and scum from him, but as others have pointed out I'm not sure if it's just new town or if it's really scum.
I'll do my no lynch vote when I'm not on my phone. It doesn't like to bold stuff as I've learned from previewing my posts.
@Blues: Well that does change things. Given that I do believe you, I trust that Ophidia is town, so I'm listening. To answer another question of yours, I have no clue how to read Vaimes. I'm inclined to go with town, but given that I thought Ophidia was scum I could be wrong. I feel like the Scum team is somewhere in King, Osie, and potentially Mog and Megs.
@Shadow: Since I was also scum reading King, what did you see that makes you think he is scum?
Given the circumstances, I am going to go back to where I was before.
vote: Osie
Also, @Megs: I now have two tabs open because I'm afraid of getting ninja'ed by you.
Osie, what jumped out at you that made you not like the interactions there? I'm trying to get the whole picture so that I can see what is being saw by you.
Megs, you still haven't replied as to why you are voting for Blues. Could you please answer as to why you are?
I still feel like Nago's 180 (Now Osie) was scummy, but I want to hear more from Osie since he's participating. And since I do want to hear more from him and it looks highly unlikely he's getting lynched today, I'm going to move to the other person who I suspected the most.
unvote vote ophidia
We are just over 48 hours from the lynch, so we are going to have to start coming together on votes.
Wheat, can we get a vote count along with a timeline for deadline?
Vaimes, I'm worried too that we're going to get no where at this rate. It feels like only a few are invested in the game at this point.
I'm trying and will post more in the next few day. My kids are getting back to school, so am I and work decided that they weren't going to look at my new availability do I got scheduled close to forty hours this week and last.
The second person is Nago. One, because he hard 180'ed on us all with DV. (Obviously, we were all wrong and I wish I had more experience so that I could feel players better) and the other is because now he is lurking. He has very specific questions directed his way because of the way he turned. I pointed it out earlier in a post, (438 for those who are curious) and still we've heard nothing. He isn't V/LA or at least he didn't announce it to the thread that I saw (Wheat, can you confirm whether he pmed you on being V/LA) and now that we are questioning him he isn't answering. It felt less like he was really scum reading him and more like "okay, time to join this wagon to lynch town!"
The third person that I am questioning hard is Torg. The way that he responded to Blues has me bothered. He nonchalantly says his vote on DV didn't really matter but chose to throw it on there anyway. Blues addresses it pretty well in 441. Why? If you knew him having the most votes didn't really matter, why throw it on there, especially with no justification? (Again, I now understand that the DV lynch was bad.)
Nago bothers me the most of the three. He's not answering, and that flip all of a sudden feels wrong.
vote Nago
Um, please explain?
Also, Blues, did you notice too that Nago used reasoning from before he said DV was town to later vote him as scum. You (Blues, #319) made those points thirty post before nago said DV was town, and then Nago used those same posts to say he was scum. #354 Nago reads EL and DV and TvT, then #384 says that DV is scum, referencing unanswered questions from #319 as to some of the reasoning why. It seems a little odd to me that it took him over 60 posts to go back to that and say he wanted more substance, and then deciding he was scum. Especially after saying he was town. Seems like a hard 180.