There is no happy ending as long as Liliana keeps trying to act like she doesn't care about anyone else. Thus far, Liliana x Jace has been "I mean it's not like I like you or anything." at best and downright toxic at worst, and the worst part about it is that she does genuinely care about Jace. Liliana's display of emotion when she pleaded to the Gatewatch to flee from Bolas was a huge turning point for her character, because it shows that she does care. Even something as minor as her being off-put by what the Hours were doing to the people on Amonkhet was noteworthy, because it meant that even she had her limits.
Yes, if she continues to act that way there will be no "happy ending". But I think that since the character was introduced to us, there has been some improvement in her personality, she has already dismantled or has affective thoughts now than before in relation to Jace (the core of the story of "argents of artifice" is about it). And I think that progress is continuous, so if we get to an "end", she will end up being honest with herself.
What do you mean by the "true" Jace? I don't know if you've noticed, but we've never seen the "true" Jace (meaning, Jace with all his memories intact) outside of his one story on Vryn, and I doubt that Jace would have put up with Liliana's games or even consider entering the Infinite Consortium with all Alhammaret put him through.
That's why I used some ("") in the term "true."
When I used the word "true" to speak of Jace, I was referring to the Jace we knew before having his mind wiped by Bolas: Mental Magician, Living Pact, Ravnica's Citizenship, Gatewatch member, no childhood memories, etc. The character we knew before.
I think now, Jace is a mix of past and present. But the fact that he is now aware of what he was and what he was doing, will lead him to take actions more like the "true" Jace. (But that's just my guess)
Where I wrote "true", you can read "past" or "previous".
You found what a bit silly? That he was actually enjoying his life in what seemed to be an eternity? That he was actually open about his fascination with everything around him, and displayed how creative he can be? That he was actually more sociable and a good listener? Which part did you find silly?
I'm not saying I did not like it, I even liked it. The first chapter on the useless island was the best thing I read in magic's lore to this day. But just being fascinated by anything made him look a little silly. I mean, when you are a planeswalker with colossal knowledge, you hardly feel impressed and tend to have a sharper critical sense.
Living freely and enjoying life is good too. But when you know so many things and have many responsibilities, you tend to ponder about your actions.
I think this period of Jace's life was like a good summer vacation, but now it's time to get back to work and solve some ***** in the multiuniverse.
There is no "true" Jace, Jace is the name we give to the male telepath born in Vryn who was manipulated by his mentor, lost his memories, planeswalked to Ravnica met Emmara, you know the rest.
Second IxaJace is imo one of the most important moments in Jace story, because we see that despite everything, at his core he is a good man, he lost his memories twice, in none of these time he uses his powers to manipulate others or with malicious purposes, instead the first time he lost his memories (i'm not counting the many incidents with his mentor) he went to Ravnica, used his powers every now and again to understand where he was and get to know a little more about his new city, the second time (Ixalan) Vraska was terrified, she knew that a Jace without his memories was extremely dangerous, but again, instead of using his power to manipulate etc, he uses it to help others, to understand others (Vraska) and even to make Vraska more confortable (when he created an illusion of Ravnica in the winter) so for me, Ixalan showed me that Jace is actually an amazing character, there was nothing silly about it.
And finally about Lily x Jace, WotC is going to need A LOT of Liliana centered stories to make her as real as Vraska is, when i first saw Vraska, i loved it simply because i loved her aesthetics, but i thought" she's probably going to be a generic Gorgon murderer" and the C16 story and Ixalan made me realize that no, she doesn't need to be a generic assassins just because she is a gorgon and has black as one of her colors, but Liliana (IMO) is the tipical sexy necromancer, she is ruthless and manipulative and uses her beauty as a way to manipulate others and she... wait that's all she is, Liliana is a powerful woman there is no denying that, she is beautiful, but she isn't human, i find easier to realte to Rakdos then to Liliana, so no i don't think the current Liliana has any chance with Jace, at the end of today story Jace said somethin like "A while ago i would have died climbing those stairs or at least pass out" (i don't remember his exact words), but that meant that he changed, he is stronger now and not just physicaly, he is mentally stronger, he won't be manipulated by her again, that's what i think.
I think most of the things I've answered to Etherium Sage can be used to debate with you. I would answer you in detail, but I have to leave now. Sorry.
So... And I'm the only one here who still cheers for a "Jace x Lili" happy ending?
I even find the relationship Jace and Vraska interesting, but I see no future in this because liliana is the only one where the "true" Jace has some love interest (and is reciprocated, even if it is in a strange way). Besides the fact that Lili is a more interesting character than Vraska.
And I do not even need to say i've always liked our blue mind sculptor. I'm glad to see him back with all his thoughts (or part of them). I liked this "new Jace" of Ixalan, but found it a bit silly.
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Anyone know when we start to get the stories?
For sure. If i have to bet in a lesbian couple, would be chandra and nissa.
Yes, if she continues to act that way there will be no "happy ending". But I think that since the character was introduced to us, there has been some improvement in her personality, she has already dismantled or has affective thoughts now than before in relation to Jace (the core of the story of "argents of artifice" is about it). And I think that progress is continuous, so if we get to an "end", she will end up being honest with herself.
That's why I used some ("") in the term "true."
When I used the word "true" to speak of Jace, I was referring to the Jace we knew before having his mind wiped by Bolas: Mental Magician, Living Pact, Ravnica's Citizenship, Gatewatch member, no childhood memories, etc. The character we knew before.
I think now, Jace is a mix of past and present. But the fact that he is now aware of what he was and what he was doing, will lead him to take actions more like the "true" Jace. (But that's just my guess)
Where I wrote "true", you can read "past" or "previous".
Yes, that's just my opinion.
As the fact that I prefer to see a "JacexLili" than a "JacexVraska", it's just my opinion.
Many of the thoughts I'm sharing with you are just my opinion. hahaha
I'm not saying I did not like it, I even liked it. The first chapter on the useless island was the best thing I read in magic's lore to this day. But just being fascinated by anything made him look a little silly. I mean, when you are a planeswalker with colossal knowledge, you hardly feel impressed and tend to have a sharper critical sense.
Living freely and enjoying life is good too. But when you know so many things and have many responsibilities, you tend to ponder about your actions.
I think this period of Jace's life was like a good summer vacation, but now it's time to get back to work and solve some ***** in the multiuniverse.
I think most of the things I've answered to Etherium Sage can be used to debate with you. I would answer you in detail, but I have to leave now. Sorry.
I even find the relationship Jace and Vraska interesting, but I see no future in this because liliana is the only one where the "true" Jace has some love interest (and is reciprocated, even if it is in a strange way). Besides the fact that Lili is a more interesting character than Vraska.
And I do not even need to say i've always liked our blue mind sculptor. I'm glad to see him back with all his thoughts (or part of them). I liked this "new Jace" of Ixalan, but found it a bit silly.
hahahha
ty for the explanation