MTG Salvation

Is there a new place that this deck specifically is being talked about. Like I know there is a broad Discord thread. But I was wanting a specific Pauper Discussion for this deck? Is that still happening. Has anyone added any new cards to their deck?

So just curious.. what way are you typically winning your games in your play group.

Is there a set of cards you typically always tutor for.

Or a combination of cards you always try to have before you blow up the world?

I've just had some clunky games as of late and wanna get a better feel for how you are winning in your playgroup.

Specifically playing with 2-3 opponents..not usually 1v1

Played this deck in awhile?

I added Maddening Cacophony

Just curious if you made any altars to it ?

I think you can switch "undying evil" and "late to dinner" on the spreadsheet under VivienneHell.

Noticed that as I was looking at lists. Would just clean that section up a tad.. nothing major just noticed.

Not a new card but has anyone thought about adding

Angelic Renewal

As a nice recursion for COA

Sry if this has been discussed.. Just became aware of this card

You ever get this deck out and playtest it some more..

Still very fun for me.. Thinking of adding some new cards from some new sets.. Wasn't sure if you saw anything pop up you might add.

Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears

Looked inviting but might be too much mana to be effective

And possible

Tymaret, Chosen from Death

If you need life gain but it might not be worth it affecting the creatures that count graveyard as a buff.. But is away to hurt graveyard decks alittle.


Just thought I would check in.. I really enjoy your deck still

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Now Massacre girl texts reads that when another creature dies this turn each creature other than massacre girl gets -1/-1

1a. When do these triggers happen?? As soon as 1 creature hits the yard?? Do all creatures hit the yard at the same time so now everything gets like -5/-5?

Triggered abilities go on the stack the next time someone would gain priority, so you will be piling six "Whenever a creature dies this turn, each creature other than Massacre Girl gets -1/-1 until end of turn." abilities on the stack, along with six "Whenever Zulaport Cutthroat or another creature you control dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.", one "Whenever Pawn of Ulamog or another nontoken creature you control dies, you may create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token. It has "Sacrifice this creature: Add C."", three "Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, put a +1/+1 counter on Yahenni, Undying Partisan.", one "Whenever another nontoken creature dies, you may draw a card.", and one "Whenever a creature dies, scry 1."

603.3. Once an ability has triggered, its controller puts it on the stack as an object that’s not a card the
next time a player would receive priority. See rule 117, “Timing and Priority.” The ability becomes
the topmost object on the stack. It has the text of the ability that created it, and no other
characteristics. It remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, a rule causes it to be removed
from the stack, or an effect moves it elsewhere.

603.3b If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player,
in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities they control on the stack in any order they choose. (See
rule 101.4.) Then the game once again checks for and resolves state-based actions until none are
performed, then abilities that triggered during this process go on the stack. This process repeats
until no new state-based actions are performed and no abilities trigger. Then the appropriate
player gets priority.

Thanks a ton for walking me through this.. That helps alot.

Wouldn't I get 6 "whenever a creature dies Scry 1" triggers instead of just 1 like you said above as Shadows of the past say whenever a creature dies it does not say whenever a NON token creature dies??

Thanks for the clarification

Ty

Got a couple questions on the timing of -1/-1 of massacre girl

So let me set up the board.

I have:
1/1 myr token
1/1 soldier token
1/1 zulaport cutthroat
2/2 pawn of ulamog
2/2 Yahenni, Undying Partisan
5/5 Harvester of souls
vanilla 10/10
Enchantment: Shadows of the past

Opponent has:
1/1 vampire token
1/1 warrior token
1/1 faerie token
vanilla 3/3, 6/6, 8/8

I cast massacre girl.. She resolves.

So now I have tons of questions on how the -1/-1 works and how the battlefield would look after the fact

1. So all the 1/1 would die with massacre girl ETB but is there an order that I can have them die in?

2. Does zulaport cutthroat trigger for all the 1/1s dying or just itself? as it dies at the same time as the other 1/1s so it only sees itself dying?

3. Do the 0/1 spawn creatures entering the battlefield because of Pawn of Ulamog stay alive as they came into the battlefield after the -1-1 ETB happened

Now Massacre girl texts reads that when another creature dies this turn each creature other than massacre girl gets -1/-1

1a. When do these triggers happen?? As soon as 1 creature hits the yard?? Do all creatures hit the yard at the same time so now everything gets like -5/-5?

2a. How many cards would I draw off Harvester of souls?

3a. How many 0/1 spawn tokens would I get off Pawn of Ulamog? Would they die pretty much immediately?

4a. When do I scy1 off of shadows of the past?

5a .Would Yahenni, Undying Partisan live?

Are these cards the same or different because of the wording?

Zulaport cutthroat - each opponent loses life
Vindictive Vampire - vindictive vampire deals damage to each opponent

1b. Is the wording on vindictive vampire make it act differently than zulaport cutthroat or are they essentially the same card?

Basically I just need clarification on how and when the -1/-1triggers as that will clear a bunch of stuff up

1c. Could someone run me through this board state and show me how it would come out just as laid about above.. With no other interactions from other players or other cards except what you see.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this.. Just want to make sure I have the timing correct and understand how the cards interact properly!

This deck is so good.. Even though I have a budget version of it.. It continues to win..

Appreciate you Wallabe putting in all the work to put the primer together and playtest it and make adjustments.. I always tell plp it's not my deck but yours.

Sad mtgsalvation is closing down so we can't keep talking about this deck. But thanks for all the suggestions you made lyonhaert and I hope to keep playing this deck for years to come.

MTGSALVATION IS SHUTTING DOWN.. What a sad day.. I super loved talking about this deck and all the help you gave me with crafting this deck.. Better get any last chatter about this deck before it shuts down.. Sad day for pauper COA.

MTG SALVATION IS SHUTTING DOWN.. This is very sad.. I really enjoyed chatting about this deck here.. Better get our last few comments in before the shut down date.. Sad day for the silver hive

Quote from CruxMDQ »

Two words.

Cloudshredder Sliver.

This has to be in every deck I would assume.. So powerful

New slivers in modern horizons
the first sliver
tempered sliver
lavabelly sliver
dregescape sliver

You been able to play test this deck yet? . Very interested in building this.. Just want to hear how what you have got so far preforms.