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  • posted a message on [[Primer]] Teysa Karlov, Grand Envoy of Orzhov
    Eh, mirror entity in my experience is simply the best creature buffer. It won't me a few games. Usuall, I'll either have many tokens or will play a massive token generator + mirror entity. Next turn, sac an optimal the tokens to ashnod's altar, activate mirror entity and swing for lethal. Even without excessive mana, the turn you cast mirror entity you can easily make all your creatures 5/5 or more. The interaction described above is very boring IMO and I would never play it. In any case, if you ever draw mirror entity and activate it for pump, im sure you'll realize how good it is!
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on [[Primer]] Karn, Silver Golem
    hey burntgerbil, could you post your latest deck list?
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  • posted a message on [[Primer]] Teysa Karlov, Grand Envoy of Orzhov
    Quote from judomin »
    I've built this deck from the primer and I love it!

    Any thoughts on these?

    * quietus spike in this deck, it reads "pay 3, target player sacrifices a creature or loses half his or her life." . I always feel like my engine is going but I'm lacking a win con. I haven't tested it but I think it could be more than a win more.
    * helm of possession with a sac outlet, this is targeted removal. It can steal a commander to prevent combo or just get value out of opponents creature.

    Some extras I haven't seen mentionned: sidisi, undead vizier[/card], black market

    The OC of this thread, along with the rest of us stax version players are ok with the game plan of just grinding the game to a halt and winning off bleeder effects, or swinging in with 1/1's that we sometimes just buff. Or looping Gary a few times. Going the long game with this. Sidisi, Undead Vizier was almost always an auto include. I think that might be the reason why you didn't see too much talk about it. Only reason why we wouldn't run this is either CMC, or not wanting to run tutors. Though, I think almost all of our decks are running it. quietus spike, while fun, shouldn't be needed in most builds. Unless you don't want to go long or combo out, I think that most of us think that it's a bit too cute and doesn't help advance the plan. helm of possession falls into the more "cute" pile with the spike. Though, depending on the meta, it might be worth it. I personally would rather just to gravepact the table or make my smokestak pull it's weight (it better in every game, damm thing is a foil after all lol). black market is an odd choice. some of us (like me) swear by it and get all the mana in the world off it. Others just can't get it to do anything. I think it's mostly a meta thing.


    I agree with what you've said except for helm of possession. Probably meta dependent like you said, but in my testing, it was able to take a big threat from the other side and disrupt combos. But I agree, I'd rather have gravepact as well.

    One more card that I think is amazing: gift of immortality. I've only played with it once but it was amazing. I played it on Sidisi, Undead Vizier and sac'ed sidisi every turn to tutor for a card. It's very hard for the opponent to get rid of the gift because you can always sac the creature in response to targeted removal. With the amount of ETB creatures we play, I think gift of immortality is a solid choice.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on [[Primer]] Teysa Karlov, Grand Envoy of Orzhov
    I've built this deck from the primer and I love it!

    Any thoughts on these?

    * quietus spike in this deck, it reads "pay 3, target player sacrifices a creature or loses half his or her life." . I always feel like my engine is going but I'm lacking a win con. I haven't tested it but I think it could be more than a win more.
    * helm of possession with a sac outlet, this is targeted removal. It can steal a commander to prevent combo or just get value out of opponents creature.

    Some extras I haven't seen mentionned: sidisi, undead vizier[/card], black market
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
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