I really appreciate your help! I'm sorry I'm so difficult, I try to make sense but don't sometimes. Now with your advise...can I get a critique on an updated list? It still maybe "eh", but hopefully it's better.
My apologies, I'm new here and I've failed trying to use it....with that aside, I meant that my play group likes to have fun more than anything. Crazy combos that could end games instantly aren't played. And when we build decks, we play casually but want them to be good/playable at the same time...it's very weird I know, so to keep it simple, we play casual. I do have an updated list of this deck. As far as the mana base goes, it's generally the same. My thought was that the ping lands, fetches, and shock lands were bearable because of my incremental life gain. Sorry for my werid post...and being confusing...your help is appreciated! -Skyy
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback!! And my play group and I aren't super competitive, like infinite combos are "banned" with us. On another note, anything you'd change to the list? Like some examples?
Hello everybody! I've been wanting to get into EDH, and I put together and esper oloro deck that likes to do it's thing, but not make my opponents hate me and target me early on, so I didn't add high market/academy rector combo. This is my attampt at a "fair" competitive EDH deck.
Commander- Oloro,Ageless Ascetic
Creatures- Serra Ascendant
Ajani's Pridemate
Drana's Emissary
Vampire Nighthawk
Vizkopa Guildmage
Rhox Faithmender
Wall Of Reverence
Obzedat, Ghost Council
Archangel of Thune
Serra Avatar
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Divinity of Pride
Drogskol Reaver
Cliffhaven Vampire
Defiant Bloodlord
Nyx Fleece Ram
Bloodgift Demon
Felidar Sovereign
(18 total creatures)
Enchantments- Ghostly Prison
Propaganda
Rhystic Study
Mind's Dilation
Sanguine Bond
Exquisite Blood
Phyrexian Arena
Palace Siege
Bitterblossom
Ajani's Mantra
Necropotence
(11 total enchantments)
Mana Rocks- Mana Crypt
Sol Ring
Orzhov Signet
Dimir Signet
Azorius Signet
Darksteel Ingot
Chromatic Lantern
Obelisk of Esper
Guilded Lotus
Other Artifacts- Alhammarret's
Archive
Elixir of
Immortality
Chalice of Life
(12 total artifacts)
Planeswalkers- Elspeth, Sun's
Champion
Sorin Markov
Ob Nixilis Reignited
Sorin, Solemn
Visitor
(4 total planeswalkers)
Instants/Sorcery- Debt to the
Deathless
Supreme Verdict
Anguished
Unmaking
Cyclonic Rift
Merciless
Eviction
Counterspell
Wrath of God
Disallow
Beacon of
Immortality
Exsanguinate
Swords to Plow.
Sphinx's
Revelation
Utter End
Enlightened Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Diabolic Tutor
(18 total instants and sorceries)
Lands- Command Tower
Arcane Sanctum
Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
Marsh Flats
Godless Shrine
Watery Grave
Hallowed Fountain
Caves of Koilos
Underground River
Adakar Wastes
Mana Confluence
City of Brass
Drowned Catacomb
Isolated Chapel
Glacial Fortress
Bojuka Bog
Shambling Vent
Scoured Barrens
Tranquil Cove
Jwar Isle Refuge
Dismal Backwater
Reliquary Tower
Esper Panorama
Myriad Landscape
Temple of Silence
Temple of Enlightenment
Temple of Deceit
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Temple of the False God
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Swamp
(36 lands total)
Any Opinions will be welcome!!! Please send feedback and or suggestions!!
-Skyy
Okay so I just wanted an opinion and advise on a BW control deck! Any suggestions are welcome.
Main board-
2x Gonti, Lord of luxury
3x Thraben Inspector
2x Blessed Alliance
4x Fatal Push
3x Anguished Unmaking
2x Grasp of Darkness
3x Fumigate
3x Oath of Liliana
1x Cast Out
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
3x Liliana, the last hope
2x sorin, grim nemesis
2x ob nixilis reignited
3x Blighted Fen
4x Concealed Courtyard
4x Shambling Vent
1x Foresaken Sanctuary
4x Evolving Wilds
5x plains
6x swamp
Sideboard-
2x kalitas, traitor of ghet
2x dispossess
3x fragmentize
4x transgress the mind
2x Blessed Alliance
1x grasp of darkness
1x quarantine field
After tweaking, this is what I have
Still in development, but feel free to give me suggestions. Also shout-out to all of you helpful people! You've really helped shape the deck. I want to do away with the sphinx's revelation in the main boar and need help with a little better of a mana base. Sideboard suggestions also helpful.
Like I said, need suggestions for main deck and mana base. Please no snapcasters or liliana of the veil, as this is "semi budget". Now, onto the sideboard...
SodeBoard: (15)
Spells- 2 supreme verdict
3 crumble to dust
3 negate
2 doom blade
2 go for the throat
Hello! thank you for your reply! Now, another question for you, the build has changed recently, it's still a raw build, so if possible could you give me an ideal decklist? Please no snapcaster mages (due to semi budget)
Thank you! The 3,3,2 split is definitely solid, much appreciated!
Maybe give me a 26x list of lands as a suggestion for this build?
Also, path is already in the board, so what to do with the hero's downfall?
Hello, I'm new around here, and would like some opinions and advise on an esper control deck I'm building, as I am having trouble with it. Please keep it semi budget (no snapcaster mages etc.)
Main board:
4x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
3x thoughtseize
4x serum visions
4x lingering souls
3x mana leak
3x remand
2x spell snare
4x path to exile
2x ojutai's command
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1x elixir of immortality
Commander- Oloro,Ageless Ascetic
Creatures- Serra Ascendant
Ajani's Pridemate
Drana's Emissary
Vampire Nighthawk
Vizkopa Guildmage
Rhox Faithmender
Wall Of Reverence
Obzedat, Ghost Council
Archangel of Thune
Serra Avatar
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Divinity of Pride
Drogskol Reaver
Cliffhaven Vampire
Defiant Bloodlord
Nyx Fleece Ram
Bloodgift Demon
Felidar Sovereign
(18 total creatures)
Enchantments- Ghostly Prison
Propaganda
Rhystic Study
Mind's Dilation
Sanguine Bond
Exquisite Blood
Phyrexian Arena
Palace Siege
Bitterblossom
Ajani's Mantra
Necropotence
(11 total enchantments)
Mana Rocks- Mana Crypt
Sol Ring
Orzhov Signet
Dimir Signet
Azorius Signet
Darksteel Ingot
Chromatic Lantern
Obelisk of Esper
Guilded Lotus
Other Artifacts- Alhammarret's
Archive
Elixir of
Immortality
Chalice of Life
(12 total artifacts)
Planeswalkers- Elspeth, Sun's
Champion
Sorin Markov
Ob Nixilis Reignited
Sorin, Solemn
Visitor
(4 total planeswalkers)
Instants/Sorcery- Debt to the
Deathless
Supreme Verdict
Anguished
Unmaking
Cyclonic Rift
Merciless
Eviction
Counterspell
Wrath of God
Disallow
Beacon of
Immortality
Exsanguinate
Swords to Plow.
Sphinx's
Revelation
Utter End
Enlightened Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Diabolic Tutor
(18 total instants and sorceries)
Lands- Command Tower
Arcane Sanctum
Polluted Delta
Flooded Strand
Marsh Flats
Godless Shrine
Watery Grave
Hallowed Fountain
Caves of Koilos
Underground River
Adakar Wastes
Mana Confluence
City of Brass
Drowned Catacomb
Isolated Chapel
Glacial Fortress
Bojuka Bog
Shambling Vent
Scoured Barrens
Tranquil Cove
Jwar Isle Refuge
Dismal Backwater
Reliquary Tower
Esper Panorama
Myriad Landscape
Temple of Silence
Temple of Enlightenment
Temple of Deceit
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Temple of the False God
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Swamp
(36 lands total)
Any Opinions will be welcome!!! Please send feedback and or suggestions!!
-Skyy
Main board-
2x Gonti, Lord of luxury
3x Thraben Inspector
2x Blessed Alliance
4x Fatal Push
3x Anguished Unmaking
2x Grasp of Darkness
3x Fumigate
3x Oath of Liliana
1x Cast Out
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
3x Liliana, the last hope
2x sorin, grim nemesis
2x ob nixilis reignited
3x Blighted Fen
4x Concealed Courtyard
4x Shambling Vent
1x Foresaken Sanctuary
4x Evolving Wilds
5x plains
6x swamp
Sideboard-
2x kalitas, traitor of ghet
2x dispossess
3x fragmentize
4x transgress the mind
2x Blessed Alliance
1x grasp of darkness
1x quarantine field
Thank you!
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Still in development, but feel free to give me suggestions. Also shout-out to all of you helpful people! You've really helped shape the deck. I want to do away with the sphinx's revelation in the main boar and need help with a little better of a mana base. Sideboard suggestions also helpful.
MainBoard: (60)
Creatures- 1 ætherling
2 kalitas, traitor of ghet
Spells- 3 Mana Leak
3 Remand
2 Spell Snare
4 path to exile
4 thoughseize
4 Serum Visions
2 supreme verdict
1 sphinx's revelation
Planeswalkers- 1 elspeth, sun's champion
2 Gideon , Ally of Zendikar
2 sorin, solemn visitor
Artifacts- 1 Elixir of Immortality
2 codex shredder
Lands- 4 celestial colonnade
1 steam vents
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 godless Shrine
2 Watery Grave
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 glacial fortress
1 evolving wilds
1 swamp
2 plains
3 island
3 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand
Like I said, need suggestions for main deck and mana base. Please no snapcasters or liliana of the veil, as this is "semi budget". Now, onto the sideboard...
SodeBoard: (15)
Spells- 2 supreme verdict
3 crumble to dust
3 negate
2 doom blade
2 go for the throat
Planeswalkers- 1 elspeth, sun's champion
Artifacts- 2 nihil spellbomb
If it's not too much to ask, could you give me some sort of more traditional control deck? Like an example to work off of
Mainboard: (60)
2x kalitas, traitor of ghet
4x inquisition of kozilek
2x lingering souls
4x serum visions
4x thoughtseize
3x mana leak
4x path to exile
3x remand
2x spell snare
4x Gideon, ally of zendikar
2x sorin solemn visitor
4x celestial colonnade
1x drowned catacomb
4x flooded strand
1x glacial fortress
1x godless shrine
2x hallowed fountain
3x island
2x plains
3x polluted delta
2x shambling vent
1x swamp
2x watery grave
SIDEBOARD: (13) really need suggestions
4x relentless dead
2x lingering souls
2x elspeth, sun's champion
2x codex shredder
1x elixir of immortality
2x creeping tar pit
A deck list (sideboard and mainboard) would be helpful, but no obligation!
thank you
Maybe give me a 26x list of lands as a suggestion for this build?
Also, path is already in the board, so what to do with the hero's downfall?
Main board:
4x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
3x thoughtseize
4x serum visions
4x lingering souls
3x mana leak
3x remand
2x spell snare
4x path to exile
2x ojutai's command
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1x elixir of immortality
4x Celestial Colonnade
2x hallowed fountain
1x godless Shrine
2x watery grave
1x swamp
2x plains
3x island
1x glacial fortress
1x drowned catacomb
2x shambling vent
3x Polluted Delta
4x Flooded Strand
Side board:
1x thoughtseize
2x ojutai's command
2x codex shredder
4x inquisition of kozilek
2x elspeth, sun's champion
4x nyx-fleece ram