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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    You were real good too man. You deserve big props for your play in the back half of this game.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    megiddo for spectator MVP
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    fwiw i thought bongo was scum the entire game!

    sorry for flaming you axelrod! maybe think about why I did that!

    No apologies for trolling in endgame though. Wink

    I had something else but I'm drunk!

    It was cool that I literally didn't have a role PM! but I endgamed!
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    yes good job axelrod for the endgame work.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Well, thank God for that.

    Unless the other shoe is about to drop, we win.
    who's "we" though :p
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    lol i didn't mean to do that

    vote cythare
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    alright alright enough.

    if axel is actually last scum here, he earned this one. sort of.

    [b]vote cythare/b]
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    6.6.6
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    compelling defense!
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    going to bed; will vote tomorrow. want to double check one more thing.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    We actually talked about this in the private chat at the time and I glossed over it, so just to be sure I went back and looked.

    You told me you had chats open with D_V and TIM at 9:55AM on December 17th.

    The Tordeck death was resolved at 5:44PM the same day.

    Therefore, your claimed progression is impossible.

    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    I can understand hiding from me in your initial claim that you redirected N1, but not that you didn't connect. The only reason to do this would be.... if you knew Wildfire was scum. which you'd only know if........ you were scum.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    oh man i'm reading axelrod's most recent posts now

    when you initially claimed you got the empower ability you didn't mention that you used your redirect.

    also when I asked who you had chats open with on December 17th you told me you had chats with D_V and TIM. no mention of Wildfire.

    I think we're done here.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    I actually really liked all of your endgame posts here. once we hit the POE phase

    well, almost all of them.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    actually isn't the solution way easier than this?

    can't be S/N since I'd be dead already
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    there's a guy at my office

    he has to go to Singapore on business trips frequently; week-long

    when he returns he goes through his inbox from the bottom up and replies to things as he sees them.

    it's really funny because he'll reply to the middle of a thread, but only later see the end where it's already been resolved.

    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    ah yeah here we are at the plans + such

    still kind of upset that you never bothered using your -2 Frown

    still not sure why you thought Cythare had 3 empowers to redirect?

    etc.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Okay then. That's fine. Sometimes reading someone in ISO doesn't give the full picture of what was actually going on in the thread at the time though, you know this.

    And I'm only getting (a little) pissy because it sort of feels like you went into this actively looking for excuses to conclude I'm scum.
    axelrod I don't know if you've actually played mafia with me before or not. that's not how I roll. especially not in endgames.

    yes, I'll admit I'm biased against you because I find you distasteful as a human being. BUT I'm not going to vote based on this!

    due diligence, as I mentioned earlier.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    there was one game a while back where I led a mislynch on lynch on Sir Karn purely because it was funny.

    I think at the time I said I was going to "teach him a lesson"

    he was really mad at me!
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    are you not paying attention to what I've been doing tonight?

    I'm rereading your ISO, starting from the beginning

    you're getting pissy because I haven't responded to your most recent posts, which I will note are the last posts on my reading list.

    so ask me again later. maybe after I comment on them?

    or not, i'm tired.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i'm going back to *****posting. that was more fun
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i mean i can just **** off lol
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Also for posterity
    Quote from Megiddo »
    Also, let's update this here

    VC 1
    Bur- Iso, Cyan
    Manders - Seppel, TheIceMan, Sir Chris
    Tom - Anak , Axelrod
    Anak - Shadow, GJ
    GJ - Cythare, Tom

    VC 2
    GJ - Cythare, Tom, Sir Chris
    Anak - Shadow, GJ, Cyan
    Manders - Seppel
    Bur- Iso
    Tom - Anak
    Axelrod- DV
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    Tom- TheIceMan

    VC 3
    Manders - Seppel, shadow, Tom
    Wildfire- Manders, Sir Chris, Tordeck
    Anak - GJ, Cyan
    GJ - Cythare
    DV - Wildfire
    Tom - Ana
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    Shadowlancer - TheIceMan

    VC 4
    Tordeck-DV, Cyan, anak, manders, tom
    Bur- GJ, shadow
    Wildfire- Sir Chris, Tordeck
    Manders - Seppel
    Anak - GJ, Cythare
    DV - Wildfire
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    Shadowlancer - TheIceMan

    VC 5
    Bur- GJ, shadow, Seppel, Manders, Anak
    Anak-Cythare, Cyan, DV
    Wildfire- Sir Chris, Tordeck
    Tordeck-tom
    DV- Wildfire
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    Shadowlancer- TheIceMan

    VC 6
    Bur- GJ, shadow, Anak, seppel
    Anak-Cythare, Cyan, DV, manders
    Wildfire- Sir Chris, Tordeck
    GJ - TheIceMan, tom
    DV- Wildfire
    Sir Chris- Axelrod

    VC 7
    Bur- GJ, shadow, Anak, seppel
    Tom- Wildfire, Tordeck, Cyan
    Anak-Cythare, manders
    GJ - TheIceMan, tom
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    WF - Sir Chris

    VC 8 (Bur Lynch)
    Bur- GJ, shadow, Anak, seppel, Todeck, Iso, DV, Bur, Manders
    Tom- Wildfire, Cyan
    Anak-Cythare
    GJ - TheIceMan, tom
    Sir Chris- Axelrod
    WF - Sir Chris


    Quote from Megiddo »
    VC 1
    GJ - TIM, Tom
    Anak - Manders, Iso, Cyan
    Wildfire - GJ, Cythare
    Tom- DV
    Tordeck - WF

    VC 2
    Iso - Seppel, TIM, Cyan, Tom
    Anak - Manders, Iso
    Wildfire - Cythare
    Tom- DV

    VC 3
    Iso - Seppel, TIM, Cyan, Tom, Shadowlancer
    Anak - Manders, Iso, cythare
    Tom- DV

    VC 4
    Iso - Seppel, TIM, Cyan, Tom, Anak, Shadowlancer, GJ
    Anak - Manders, Iso, cythare
    Manders- DV

    Empower
    DV - Manders, Manders, Cythare
    TIM - axelrod
    Cythare - DV, shadow
    Wildfire- iso

    VC 4 (iso lynched)
    Iso - Seppel, TIM, Cyan, Tom, Anak, Shadowlancer, GJ
    Anak - Manders, Iso, cythare
    Manders- DV

    Empower
    DV - Manders, Manders, Cythare, Anak
    TIM - axelrod
    Cythare - DV, shadow
    Wildfire- iso, GJ
    GJ - WF

    Quote from Megiddo »
    VC 1
    GJ - Tom, DV, Seppel
    Tom - Cyan

    VC 2
    Wildfire- Seppel, Cyth, MH, DV, Tom, GJ
    GJ - Shadow
    Tom - Cyan
    Manders- Anak
    Seppel - GJ
    Anak - Cyan, MH
    DV- WF

    VC 3
    Wildfire- Cyth, Tom, GJ, Anak
    Anak - MH
    GJ- Cyan

    VC 4
    Wildfire- GJ, Anak
    GJ- Cyth, MH, Cyan, Tom

    VC 5
    Wildfire- GJ,Cyth
    GJ- MH, Cyan, Tammy (per Seppel vote), Tom
    MH - Anak

    VC 6
    Wildfire- GJ,Cyth
    GJ- MH, Cyan, Tammy (per Seppel vote), Tom, Shadow, WF
    MH - Anak

    VC 7
    Wildfire- GJ,Cyth
    GJ- MH, Tammy (per Seppel vote), Tom, Shadow, WF, Cythare, Axelrod
    MH - Anak
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    That'll actually be the last one for Axelrod, as after that point there's no other living scum.

    Interestingly.............................................
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i keep posting these for posterity's sake; i'm aware they're useless on their own.

    CYT |||||---
    MEG |||-

    ANA ||||--
    BUR |-
    CHR |||||||---
    CYA |||--
    D_V |||||------
    MAN ||||||||||||-------
    SEP ||||||||||||-------
    SHA |||-
    TIM ||--
    TOM ||||||----
    TOR ||-


    ISO ||-
    TCM ||||-
    WIL |||||-------
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    I also still don't think cythare, as scum, shoots anak that Day.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    this is about where you are after D2

    CYT ||--
    MEG |-

    ANA ||||--
    BUR |-
    CHR |||||||---
    CYA ||-
    D_V |||||------
    MAN ||||||||||-------
    SEP ||||||||||-------
    SHA |||-
    TIM ||--
    TOM ||||----
    TOR ||-


    ISO ||-
    TCM ||||-
    WIL |||-------

    tammy, RIP
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    tfw axelrod spends a whole day saying "my vote is on wildfire" but he never votes and then instead just votes TCM
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    D1

    ANA |-
    BUR |
    CHR |||||||---
    CYA -
    D_V ||||--
    MAN |||------
    SEP |||----
    SHA -
    TIM ||-
    TOM |---
    TOR ||


    ISO ||-
    TCM -

    noting again Iso's weirdo softball Qs
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    "Working out is modern couture. No outfit is going to make you look or feel as good as having a fit body. Buy less clothing and go to the gym instead."
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    whomst
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    paul ryan at the gym is my current desktop background, incidentally.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Also, Axelrod trying to rush me guarantees that I'm going to pay him extra scrutiny. Paul Ryan you are not!
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Right, so, I'm doing my due diligence here.

    Axelrod has some weird stuff going on, behaviorally, that has me a bit on edge. Currently my one issue is why Iso seemed to take such an interest in throwing softballs at him while Iso's buddies largely ignored him completely.

    I'm going to do this tonight instead of tomorrow night when I planned to originally as I scheduled DATE NIGHT then.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    oh **** deadline's tomorrow right

    ahhh i'm not gonna be home

    what to do, what to do...
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    in fairness to you though, you've done a much better job convincing me than cythare has.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i haven't really had time to read anything lately. been busy at work. you should know about this.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    what's going on in THIS thread?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    BORING
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day 2: Darkness comes
    I'm pretty happy with my play this game.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Mafia Hosting Sign-Ups & Hosting Rules
    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    I have an idea for a somewhat simple Micro that I think has potential. Looking for reviewers/co-designers.
    wait, we're supposed to get these reviewed?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    NO BRAKES
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    btw i'm mostly going to troll until the weekend when I can sit down and read

    but please post lots and try to convince me
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    whom got the fear
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day 2: Darkness comes
    @cantrip NGL that's the most bizarre reason I've ever been voted. And I've played with DV several times.

    I was suggesting that i was on the BEE team as in not the WASPS. who were scum.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i mean is that a good trade though
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    fun fun fun

    i generally agree with bongo's post about axelrod's posts
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    cythare what are your thoughts on Axelrod's posts from last night?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    kek can you imagine a t/s/sk ending here?

    i'd be so mad.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    oh right right

    there's still also the option that you're an SK of sorts btw.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    axelrod both and he have an extra kill. that argument isn't really valid, unless i'm misunderstanding your point.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    oh good, i was wondering when you two would get around to voting each other.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Quote from Axelrod »
    Quote from Megiddo »
    ...

    wouldn't scum win a 1-1 endgame on the spot?

    Would they? If the town had a vigilante?

    Sometimes I've seen rules where it says the scum win if they "equal" the town, but that's usually shorthand for "there's nothing the Town can do to win anymore." My feeling is that, if the Town has the ability to kill the scum, it's not a loss.
    name one (1) game where 1/1 endgame with scum and vig wasn't a scum win.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    ...

    wouldn't scum win a 1-1 endgame on the spot?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Quote from Axelrod »
    I don't know how much he has. Assuming he's scum I also assume he didn't actually spend 3 to redirect WF to himself when he said he did. He would have got 2 more when DoTA did his thing. That's 5. Theoretically, if WF gave his "0" Empower thing to another scum on N1 giving them an extra empower and they then gave it to Cyth on N2, then that other scum could have also transferred that extra point to Cyth at any time. Up to 6?

    However much it is, presumably he would have all he needs to day-kill again and end this game literally any second. You disagree?

    up to 6, are you counting the 5 already spent here?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    if i'm scum don't I snap-hammer and win immediately? Assuming you're town that's GG for me.

    what am I missing here?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    also WHY ME AGAIN
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    also @ cythare what did you do last Night
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Hi axel, question for you.

    Why do you think that cythare has (up to) 8 empowerment right now?
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    I actually am aware of the Sin City ending. I was afraid we just saw that again, jeeze.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    what
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    posted a message on Mistborn Mafia - Signups!
    /specc
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    posted a message on Mistborn Mafia - Signups!
    i'll join if you finish your assignment for this week
    Posted in: Old Sign-ups
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    guess not, cool
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i may have posted part of this twice, sorry if that's the case. mtgs forum software is great.

    i mean i agree axel on your general tammy thoughts.

    if she thinks i'm ignoring her, that's largely true. i can only focus on one thing at a time (as i often say) and that's still true. didn't work out for us Yesterday obviously but that's neither here nor there.

    that said, i haven't actually been blind to what she's saying, which has largely been "lynch axelrod"

    i've actually made several comments on this topic both Today and Yesterday. i'm not sure whether Tammy responded to them, maybe she did, but if not i have to wonder why she wouldn't challenge me on them.

    from memory, Tammy:

    1) my major concern with the axelrod as scum world is that it gives the scumteam two roles with extra kills. i find this like, so incredibly dumb from a design perspective as to largely be unworkable. what are your thoughts?

    2) i specifically called out axelrod's actions last Night as pro-town, but this you had no reaction to, rather you went on to suggest that i'm ignoring the topic. would you like to know what he did?

    3) if you actually DON'T think axelrod is scum, and i'm not sure that you do at this point to be honest, what are your game thoughts?

    anyway, we can all get pissy at each other and piss the endgame away or actually start trying again. i'll behave if you guys are up for it.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    >very different circumstances

    please explain this to me axelrod
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    can I go back to being a spectator? that was better.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    tammy your attitude sucks this game.

    and i say that as the dude who made a post worth two strikes half a page back.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    no?

    i mean cythare vote is practically mandatory Today yes

    but I'm not sure where you're coming up with Meg as potential scum
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    kek
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    certainly is

    TBH I haven't reread either yet myself.

    Cythare is scum on interactions fwiw.
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    i'm willing to go with axel being town at this juncture btw. i don't see scum doing what he did last Night.

    so the question is whether Bongo is fake claiming neutral or whether tammy's just scum.
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Lights Out 2: Day 2: Darkness comes
    my... my brakes...
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    lol

    savvy
    Posted in: Mafia
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    posted a message on Disinheritance - Endgame
    Quote from Tammy »
    I confirm receiving 5 empowerment.

    I'm home sick today, gonna go back to sleep or try, probably be back later if I can't.
    Thumbs Up

    Ok so Today we have some things to do.

    First things first:

    @MOD: Can you confirm in a reply to this post that DoTA is actually mod-revealed as town? or add it to the OP?

    @Tammy did you do anything last Night?

    @Axelrod who would you have shot? Also we should clear up the communication we attempted last Night.
    Posted in: Mafia
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