Batterskull can make some lifelink redundance and imagine a Glint-Nest beating and Blocking haha the token can chumpblock and next turn aggressive, ill try some i guess, will seek a single
i agree in Spreading Seas cause draw but i opt for Sea's Claim for the curve, mainly the fact you said we need to be faster, and T2 i want to Heartless + Myr in all best case and T3 start to tax. The Crucible of Worlds technique is so sweet, but this card is so expansive for the moment
yes, ill continue with Ensnaring Bridge here have around 3 Bant Eldrazis, this so hard without, Stony is the problem in this cause even with Bridge he continues to do thing, make token discard with Seer is boring, then we need to win this race, was the first time i see Stony win me, but ill teste some bounce and tell you (i see Cyclone make nice work on that matchup with bridge)
in Lost Legacy is more then stony, it can reach more problematic things
Here have some UG tron with Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger argh its hard, i need a plan, and some valakuts, then i sided some Sea's Claim to deal with their land
In the begin of thread, i ran Duplicant but was sad nots worth, but ill try some Sever the Bloodline and see the impact
More on focus, because yesterday have another league game:
1x2 against bant eldrazi
Lost the first game then win the second with the same strategy of Ensnaring Bridge, but now, finish with a Walking Ballista for +9 counters, then in the third game, my fear Stony Silence cant allow me win this and the game kinda mirror of second but cant active my ballista, so sad.
Considerations: I guess in tempted to try some Echoing Truth or Cyclonic Rift in side cause this game especific i acumulated so much mana and the table of opponent was immense or some Lost Legacy to prevent Stony enter idk. In case of Legacy, this reach many other problematic cards for us. (what do you think?)
2x0 BW Tokens
0x2 Other tokens (idk why) hahah
i faced an Abzan and guess this match so favorable, but in this day, stucked so hard, not luck
For this match and tokens: in go to test some Sever the Bloodline in side because his exile abillity for exile (catch indestrutible) and amount many token, goyfs, ulamogs target and have flashback for late game, i guess a worth test
Do you see that ?! I was surprised when see about Heartless in goldfish, and try to call attention with the list to see interest, but I did not think to publish the forum, mybad, lets see if more people come to rich this.
Some days ago i have a match with merfolk now and the fact we use U facilite so much and the bounces make its hard.
what the best tool we have against ? my Yahenni's Expertise dont came no one game and Explosives destroy us so many 2 CMC
After this and Jund matchup, i guess it can a dead draw, although like it so much, because sometimes ur creatures dont stay in game
I`n in the Grand Architect thread too, and see Throne came from this, but have a point, that deck have around 33 creatures .. its not a point?
maybe the local meta influence this, but if we have some tool that fit well in all math can be consider ? Something good againt remove like Scrap Trawler or that Treasure Keeper or dont know
yes, is them pratically the same list before, but now i have Fatal Pushs, not much diference in this match, only get Goblin Guides, but know i agree this match is not so difficult if we can have a lifelink font early or a chalice. Lifelink is a font i guess we should have on main plus Wurmocil Engine cause we have big beater early, and life can help us the rest of game
On Ensnaring Bridge
Well, in the momment, i dont think when ill draw the pieces cause i know it is hard do remove, i just load the game wiht our artifact, and Walking Ballista Become the second plan. when i play Molten-Tail Masticore was for Bridge too, other alternative for outside combate damage, and also, when i can play Ensnaring Bridge, the opponent is hurt by shocks and painlands then less artifact is needed, in this case remove some Heartess Summoning for not hold dead card is a good choise, and if Tezz come before Bridge, the game flow easy.
Just to say Kolaghan's Command have my hate!! hahhaa
its card just own by yourself agains us
i just toss the option about live, but not abrange .. maybe the brainstorm can run bigger, then brief on forum, but was a idea, nevermind
Since launch, i liked the Scrap Trawler but dont see it fit in deck, but i see it work in Trawler KCI (almost make this deck, but so much hate) and it so fun, have you tested, what slot can be replaced ?
I always look for Treasure Keeper, i like cards can be replaced by yourself
I even considered Matter Reshaper, but its crazy by the C cost
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I have a little report
2-2 on weekend sooo close 3-1 (5th of 14) of a local store little tournament
JUND: 0x2
Jund have all removal of world ... not much to say
BANT ELDRAZI: 2x1
after lose the game 1, side-in the Ensnaring Bridge, put lots of artifact on game and win wiht Tezz. On game 3, after 3 Lodestone Golem in sequence he scoop it up.
DEAHT AND TAX: 2x0
Curved and Explosive hand, certain hour tutors, Wurmcoil Engine give us the game
NAYA BURN: 1x2
Game one i just no played, so bad, Game 2 Chalice for 1 T2 give me the game, on game 3 i not open hand with Chalice, then risked a race damage, left it with 3 life, but Destructive Revelry left me in range of a Bolt, so sad.
I did not know about this card existence, lifelink is a thing a miss, i tested Basilisk Collar (look is only for lifelink mention) together ballista too, how we have big beaters it helps a lot
Jorubai Murk Lurker seems give us something like a Condemn tech without W its a thing, and not an artifact to scape from Stony
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if we can live chat, we can break a big delay would add much to discuss, but de Timezone cant help much i guess
I was relutant in Fetid Pools cause this, tapped, but when flooded can be traded, but i agree
Tolaria West was a land i consider too, tutor for all cited byb you, and i still using Academy Ruins
Other i lookf or is Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, as we play some uncolor, but it in my build cause i play mor black spell i guess
my Fatal Push is on the way .. this card was hard to find omg
I have mulligan once .. then i have fear to down 5 and just hope to draw some black source .. some bad luck and some my bad i guess ... i start to belive that i dont know how to shuffle LOL
I felt the same about Blood Moon but Stony Silence terrify my because DS make bigger blockers for ur creatures, just precaution
8Rack is also a tough matchup. Early discard can totally rip our hands apart. I have found that you want to be careful not to keep a hand that is relying on a single engine piece (like one with a Heartless and double Myr). Always expect them to tear at least 2 cards out of your hand early. If this matchup is a common problem for you, Dodecapod is really good against Liliana of the Veil, Smallpox, and Raven's Crime.
And yes, I do play online because I don't have a lot of time to get out to long events to play in paper right now. The deck cost me a little over $200 when I first bought into it online and since then I've added some pieces here and there. With Walking Ballistas and Engineered Explosives added it will probably end up being between $250 - $300.
Grats !! Some considerations and point i want to emphasize:
On storm: the problem wasnt the pieces like grave hates, the problem was stuck in land, i open with 2 seize`s and not draw a single swamp or fetch, sooo sad, i guess the match is some point favorable to us .. but argh
On DS: In this match the luck return and Lodestone Golem and Engineered Explosives was the star, but when he was removing the side, i see Stony Silence (was a DS junk) if he put in game, Explosives cant save us anymore, then what I'd like to say with that, i guess we need something to interact with permanents, side maybe idk .. Echoing Truth
on 8Rack: That player come from other city, then i never played against this, i have dodecapod but is out of side because never used, totally surprised (the same for this player, when he sized me and dont know what to discard hahah)
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then .. mol, i cant play you !! pay 2 time a deck is hard
Still in Throne HA!!
had a game, when opponent 6 life, and i have no creature, i guess was a ESPER CONTROL, then i drew Tezz, Turn trhone in creature, beat 5 then throne trigger and deal 1 left, so sweet
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Tournament Report: 2-3 Today in a local store today
GAME 1 = BW tokens - lose
Was totally unluck .. Game 1: flooded Game 2: No land draw .. wtf man not my day today (against BW tokens)
GAME 2 = BURN - win
Glint-Nest find me a Wurmcoil early and save me and Game 2: Chalice for 1 broke the game
GAME 3 = STROM - lose
Again stuck in lands, idk what happened, drew 7 cards and no land game 1 ... wtf
GAME 4 = DEATH'S SHADOWS = win
Game 1 its time for opponent stuck in lands, then i play 2 Lodestone Golem and its over
Game 2 Turn 3 droped 3 Superion, then Relic of Progenitus bring the Tarmogoyf to 0/1, Engineered Explosives killed 5 tokens of Lingerins Souls
GAME 5 = 8rack - lose (i never played against this before)
2 games for close, but game 2 seize then a Surgical Extraction Ended my hopes
i guess the bad luck in the tournament start disturbed the end .. but its happens, tomorrow i post my list
PS.: Variou you play MOL and paper ? how the cost to do ur deck in MOL, sometimes i want to play MOL to test mor the deck
ill try a different Approach ..
-3 Fatal Push in MB (move to SB)
+3 Inquisition of Kozilek
try to play with 7 discard more early control
Need a good day of playtest for result
have you tested for a time ? in main or side ? what slot ha takes ?
I dont find a batterskull yet, but can make a good pair with Doom engine haha
sometime ago, Padeem, Consul of Innovation was cited, have some test on it ?
A remember edit: For my side, i get 2 Illness in the Ranks cause have so much tokens here
Batterskull can make some lifelink redundance and imagine a Glint-Nest beating and Blocking haha the token can chumpblock and next turn aggressive, ill try some i guess, will seek a single
Have sometime Batterskull considered ? was thinking and its offer many things we like, life and big blockers
i agree in Spreading Seas cause draw but i opt for Sea's Claim for the curve, mainly the fact you said we need to be faster, and T2 i want to Heartless + Myr in all best case and T3 start to tax. The Crucible of Worlds technique is so sweet, but this card is so expansive for the moment
another big thread on this UG is World Breaker omg!
For this UG i try some different playstyles, until discard her seek tools and your big thread cause with G have much tools to search
I got 1 Tolaria West but not put in deck yet but a tutor always welcome, have you tested to say how it impact ?
in Lost Legacy is more then stony, it can reach more problematic things
Here have some UG tron with Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger argh its hard, i need a plan, and some valakuts, then i sided some Sea's Claim to deal with their land
In the begin of thread, i ran Duplicant but was sad nots worth, but ill try some Sever the Bloodline and see the impact
More on focus, because yesterday have another league game:
1x2 against bant eldrazi
Lost the first game then win the second with the same strategy of Ensnaring Bridge, but now, finish with a Walking Ballista for +9 counters, then in the third game, my fear Stony Silence cant allow me win this and the game kinda mirror of second but cant active my ballista, so sad.
Considerations: I guess in tempted to try some Echoing Truth or Cyclonic Rift in side cause this game especific i acumulated so much mana and the table of opponent was immense or some Lost Legacy to prevent Stony enter idk. In case of Legacy, this reach many other problematic cards for us. (what do you think?)
2x0 BW Tokens
0x2 Other tokens (idk why) hahah
i faced an Abzan and guess this match so favorable, but in this day, stucked so hard, not luck
For this match and tokens: in go to test some Sever the Bloodline in side because his exile abillity for exile (catch indestrutible) and amount many token, goyfs, ulamogs target and have flashback for late game, i guess a worth test
For some control match ill test a Inkwell Leviathan as finisher
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Do you see that ?! I was surprised when see about Heartless in goldfish, and try to call attention with the list to see interest, but I did not think to publish the forum, mybad, lets see if more people come to rich this.
I want to point one thing about Throne of the God-Pharaoh now to be careful
Some days ago i have a match with merfolk now and the fact we use U facilite so much and the bounces make its hard.
what the best tool we have against ? my Yahenni's Expertise dont came no one game and Explosives destroy us so many 2 CMC
After this and Jund matchup, i guess it can a dead draw, although like it so much, because sometimes ur creatures dont stay in game
I`n in the Grand Architect thread too, and see Throne came from this, but have a point, that deck have around 33 creatures .. its not a point?
maybe the local meta influence this, but if we have some tool that fit well in all math can be consider ? Something good againt remove like Scrap Trawler or that Treasure Keeper or dont know
On Ensnaring Bridge
Well, in the momment, i dont think when ill draw the pieces cause i know it is hard do remove, i just load the game wiht our artifact, and Walking Ballista Become the second plan. when i play Molten-Tail Masticore was for Bridge too, other alternative for outside combate damage, and also, when i can play Ensnaring Bridge, the opponent is hurt by shocks and painlands then less artifact is needed, in this case remove some Heartess Summoning for not hold dead card is a good choise, and if Tezz come before Bridge, the game flow easy.
Just to say Kolaghan's Command have my hate!! hahhaa
its card just own by yourself agains us
i just toss the option about live, but not abrange .. maybe the brainstorm can run bigger, then brief on forum, but was a idea, nevermind
Since launch, i liked the Scrap Trawler but dont see it fit in deck, but i see it work in Trawler KCI (almost make this deck, but so much hate) and it so fun, have you tested, what slot can be replaced ?
I always look for Treasure Keeper, i like cards can be replaced by yourself
I even considered Matter Reshaper, but its crazy by the C cost
---
I have a little report
2-2 on weekend sooo close 3-1 (5th of 14) of a local store little tournament
JUND: 0x2
Jund have all removal of world ... not much to say
BANT ELDRAZI: 2x1
after lose the game 1, side-in the Ensnaring Bridge, put lots of artifact on game and win wiht Tezz. On game 3, after 3 Lodestone Golem in sequence he scoop it up.
DEAHT AND TAX: 2x0
Curved and Explosive hand, certain hour tutors, Wurmcoil Engine give us the game
NAYA BURN: 1x2
Game one i just no played, so bad, Game 2 Chalice for 1 T2 give me the game, on game 3 i not open hand with Chalice, then risked a race damage, left it with 3 life, but Destructive Revelry left me in range of a Bolt, so sad.
I did not know about this card existence, lifelink is a thing a miss, i tested Basilisk Collar (look is only for lifelink mention) together ballista too, how we have big beaters it helps a lot
Jorubai Murk Lurker seems give us something like a Condemn tech without W its a thing, and not an artifact to scape from Stony
--
if we can live chat, we can break a big delay would add much to discuss, but de Timezone cant help much i guess
Tolaria West was a land i consider too, tutor for all cited byb you, and i still using Academy Ruins
Other i lookf or is Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, as we play some uncolor, but it in my build cause i play mor black spell i guess
my Fatal Push is on the way .. this card was hard to find omg
3x Glint-Nest Crane
4x Grand Architect
3x Mulldrifter
4x Myr Superion
4x Lodestone Golem
2x Spellskite
3x Walking Ballista
2x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Sundering Titan
Land (22)
1x Academy Ruins
2x Drowned Catacomb
2x Ghost Quarter
7x Island
4x Polluted Delta
2x Sunken Hollow
2x Swamp
2x Watery Grave
4x Thoughtseize
Enchantment (4)
4x Heartless Summoning
Artifact (2)
2x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
Planeswalker (2)
2x Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
3 Chalice of the Void
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Pithing Needle
3 Dismember
I have mulligan once .. then i have fear to down 5 and just hope to draw some black source .. some bad luck and some my bad i guess ... i start to belive that i dont know how to shuffle LOL
I felt the same about Blood Moon but Stony Silence terrify my because DS make bigger blockers for ur creatures, just precaution
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Someone give me a idea to trade Sunken Hollow to the new Fetid Pools, what do you think?
Grats !! Some considerations and point i want to emphasize:
On storm: the problem wasnt the pieces like grave hates, the problem was stuck in land, i open with 2 seize`s and not draw a single swamp or fetch, sooo sad, i guess the match is some point favorable to us .. but argh
On DS: In this match the luck return and Lodestone Golem and Engineered Explosives was the star, but when he was removing the side, i see Stony Silence (was a DS junk) if he put in game, Explosives cant save us anymore, then what I'd like to say with that, i guess we need something to interact with permanents, side maybe idk .. Echoing Truth
on 8Rack: That player come from other city, then i never played against this, i have dodecapod but is out of side because never used, totally surprised (the same for this player, when he sized me and dont know what to discard hahah)
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then .. mol, i cant play you !! pay 2 time a deck is hard
had a game, when opponent 6 life, and i have no creature, i guess was a ESPER CONTROL, then i drew Tezz, Turn trhone in creature, beat 5 then throne trigger and deal 1 left, so sweet
---
Tournament Report: 2-3 Today in a local store today
GAME 1 = BW tokens - lose
Was totally unluck .. Game 1: flooded Game 2: No land draw .. wtf man not my day today (against BW tokens)
GAME 2 = BURN - win
Glint-Nest find me a Wurmcoil early and save me and Game 2: Chalice for 1 broke the game
GAME 3 = STROM - lose
Again stuck in lands, idk what happened, drew 7 cards and no land game 1 ... wtf
GAME 4 = DEATH'S SHADOWS = win
Game 1 its time for opponent stuck in lands, then i play 2 Lodestone Golem and its over
Game 2 Turn 3 droped 3 Superion, then Relic of Progenitus bring the Tarmogoyf to 0/1, Engineered Explosives killed 5 tokens of Lingerins Souls
GAME 5 = 8rack - lose (i never played against this before)
2 games for close, but game 2 seize then a Surgical Extraction Ended my hopes
i guess the bad luck in the tournament start disturbed the end .. but its happens, tomorrow i post my list
PS.: Variou you play MOL and paper ? how the cost to do ur deck in MOL, sometimes i want to play MOL to test mor the deck