I'm very new to this archetype but I was watching Kanister stream this really spicy 16 land KCI version. He went 5-0 with it. Interesting choices being no Myr Retriever so I don't think it technically goes infinite. He said on the stream that the Walking Ballista was for time out purposes and in real life would run a 2nd pirite spell bomb. He liked the pentad prism because it ramped to Whir faster. The sideboard Ugin was very powerful on stream. What do you guys think?
have you played any matches with it yet? looks interesting - likely too many stoneforge mystics and maybe cut the endbringers - also the name is slightly confusing - in that you are not taxing them at all - maybe eldrazi equipment?
Things could get really broken with Eldrazi Displacer
I currently play the mono white build and my meta is infested with R/W D and T lists that play 4 magus of the moon and 4 Blood moon. How does white stax beat that? Also what's the current R/W build running blood moon. If you can't beat them join them?
It seems like with the resurgence of infect, burn, and affinity chalice of the void worthy of a main board slot. There's a small chance of hitting it turn with SSG - trinishpere seems pretty strong now as well.
I know there is a ton of artifact hate but those decks only play 3-4 artifact hate cards total.
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11949&d=268413&f=LE has anyone tried this list? it plays 4 thought knot seer mainboard. could be an interesting direction to go. obviously a no go with Humility
I took a R/W stax deck to my local shop tonight and went 2-1
I play the main [[LD package + 2 GDD/4Magus] - 3/2 Nahiri ajani spit - 4 Bolt 2 Helix 3 Mana Tithe - 2 SSG
Match 1 - 2 - 0 vs B/W eldrazi taxes
GM 1: He landed a Leonin Arbiter and Thalia game one but Bolt plus Stone Rain on eldrazi temple + Ghostly Prison basically had him doing nothing. He Scoops
GM2: More early LD + Prison renders him dead. I ult nahiri for win. Which is so satisfying.
Match 2 - 0 -2 vs 8 rack.
I have never ever won a game off 8rack playing any deck so I probably really misplayed this match as usual.
GM 1 He had 3 shreiking affliction and pack rats and I couldnt keep up. I stopped a turn 1 thought seize with Mana Tithe which was nice. I found the LDD package to not be very effective in this match up.
GM 2 I did manage to pull off a GDD into Boom//Bust for the armageddon effect which very fun to do but admittedly a misplay on my part as he just ran me over with rats already on board and I couldnt do much. I also am missing a 4th Flagstone and Crucible of the worlds which might help in the future.
I boarded in Wraths and Leyline
Match 3 - 2-0 vs Burn.
GM 1 I had a slow start and fell to about 7 by turn 3 but once I had Prison+Ajani+Nahiri it was a slow grind to the end.
GM 2 boarded in leyline and boros charm - but drew neither and played out similarly to game 1 and I got to ultimate Nahiri into Emrakul for the win
Overall I loved playing this deck for 2 reasons.
No 1. The looks on the opponents face while playing against us. It sounds weird but even when I was losing it was still a blast to play.
No 2. It's very powerful.
No 3. I ult'd Nahiri twice.
I feel conflicted about the clash of Nahiri's ult and Ensnaring Bridge. I feel like in games where Bridge is in play and actually doing something are the games that you are not winning via nahiri's ult. However bridge is so much better at protecting PW.
Love the deck and the Archetype and am going to continue to tune it.
Thanks! I'm shifting the list around a little, trying to improve. I'm going to try moving away from Resto/Kiki to lower the curve. I'm trying SSG and Crack the Earth, but I'm not sure if I'm going to like CtE.
can you post the naya list with the inclusion of magus and scepter of dominance?- scepter is something I've been toying with as well and seems really powerful.
In this way, they'd be at 3 (assuming they have a fifth land to drop) but you'd be at 5, which is enough to cast Magus or Nahiri AND keep mana open for the Scepter. If you get Scepter, Magus and Nahiri working together at the same time then it's going to be tough for your opponent to come back from that.
yeah the scepter magus nahiri lock is what is most interesting to me- Do you think that it needs the ramp and LD to set it up? Is the nahiri(or ajani)+magus+scepter lock more constant and versatile than the blood moon+leyline+bridge lock?
can you post the naya list with the inclusion of magus and scepter of dominance?- scepter is something I've been toying with as well and seems really powerful.
Decklist
4 Scrap Trawler
1 Walking Ballista
Sorcery- 4
4 Ancient Stirrings
Instant- 3
3 Whir of Invention
Artifacts 32
4 Mox Opal
4 Mishra's Bauble
3 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
4 Terrarion
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Pentad Prism
1 Prophetic Prism
1 Engineered Explosives
4 Krark-Klan Ironworks
4 Glimmervoid
4 Spire of Industry
2 Island
4 Botanical Sanctum
2 Yavimaya Coast
2 Thoughtseize
1 Pyroclasm
1 Collective Brutality
2 Nature's Claim
1 Pithing Needle
1 Grafdiggers Cage
1 Defense Grid
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Inspiring Statuary
2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Things could get really broken with Eldrazi Displacer
I know there is a ton of artifact hate but those decks only play 3-4 artifact hate cards total.
Thoughts?
I play the main [[LD package + 2 GDD/4Magus] - 3/2 Nahiri ajani spit - 4 Bolt 2 Helix 3 Mana Tithe - 2 SSG
Match 1 - 2 - 0 vs B/W eldrazi taxes
GM 1: He landed a Leonin Arbiter and Thalia game one but Bolt plus Stone Rain on eldrazi temple + Ghostly Prison basically had him doing nothing. He Scoops
GM2: More early LD + Prison renders him dead. I ult nahiri for win. Which is so satisfying.
Match 2 - 0 -2 vs 8 rack.
I have never ever won a game off 8rack playing any deck so I probably really misplayed this match as usual.
GM 1 He had 3 shreiking affliction and pack rats and I couldnt keep up. I stopped a turn 1 thought seize with Mana Tithe which was nice. I found the LDD package to not be very effective in this match up.
GM 2 I did manage to pull off a GDD into Boom//Bust for the armageddon effect which very fun to do but admittedly a misplay on my part as he just ran me over with rats already on board and I couldnt do much. I also am missing a 4th Flagstone and Crucible of the worlds which might help in the future.
I boarded in Wraths and Leyline
Match 3 - 2-0 vs Burn.
GM 1 I had a slow start and fell to about 7 by turn 3 but once I had Prison+Ajani+Nahiri it was a slow grind to the end.
GM 2 boarded in leyline and boros charm - but drew neither and played out similarly to game 1 and I got to ultimate Nahiri into Emrakul for the win
Overall I loved playing this deck for 2 reasons.
No 1. The looks on the opponents face while playing against us. It sounds weird but even when I was losing it was still a blast to play.
No 2. It's very powerful.
No 3. I ult'd Nahiri twice.
I feel conflicted about the clash of Nahiri's ult and Ensnaring Bridge. I feel like in games where Bridge is in play and actually doing something are the games that you are not winning via nahiri's ult. However bridge is so much better at protecting PW.
Love the deck and the Archetype and am going to continue to tune it.
how are the changes working? how was ssg?
yeah the scepter magus nahiri lock is what is most interesting to me- Do you think that it needs the ramp and LD to set it up? Is the nahiri(or ajani)+magus+scepter lock more constant and versatile than the blood moon+leyline+bridge lock?