Does anyone know whether MTGO tickets and boosters will be tradable once Future Site lands? Are common members still getting foils and watch list like the first few articles promised?
I think non singles are a big question on everyone's mind. If they fix the price of a ticket at $1 then it does little to handle inflation since people will have to put riders to get tickets. If they let it float then it will become very obvious what the true value of a pucapoint is.
This deck appeared with the re-introduction of the Delve Mechanic in Khans of Tarkir. The deck uses cheep card advantage engines to dump cards into the graveyard allowing the pilot to quickly cast oversized Delve creatures such as Gurmag Angler and protect them with countermagic.
As of this writing the deck generally comprises about 5-8% of the 5-0 Pauper League decklists on MTGO. While it may not be the most popular archetype I've found it fun to play and at 30-40 tix one of the cheaper lists capable of a 5-0 finish.
Card Choices
Many of the card choices are fixed. The creature base will normally always consist of
4 Delver of Secrets and 4 Gurmag Angler. Delver of Secrets provides an early clock and protection from other Delver decks while Gurmag Angler is one of the hardest creatures to kill in the format.
Typically the deck will have 1 Sultai Scavenger for additional flying pressure and as room for sideboard options.
Stormbound Geist was the traditional choice for protection against edict effects, but many players are opting for Eldrazi Skyspawner instead due to a less restrictive color requirement. The geist has the added bonus of not dying to ping effects, but it does require double blue and it is vulnerable to graveyard hate since it returns from the grave.
Matchup Analysis and Sideboard Plan
vs UB Teachings - UB Teachings focuses on gaining board control at all costs and will often take its time to set up. Often there are no creatures and the deck depends on Curse of the Bloody Tome to win via decking. Casting a creature early with protection from a counterspell will often be very hard to answer. Continue to add creatures as they become available protecting Gurmag Angler. Cycle worthless creature removal away with Brainstorm and Mental Note. Eventually they will cast Curse of the Bloody Tome which fills your graveyard and allows for an endless supply of creatures they cannot answer.
SB In
+ 3 Dispel
+ 2 Nihil Spellbomb
+ 1 Stormbound Geist
Even if they are not playing Accumulated Knowledge, the Spellbombs raid their graveyard for Mystical Teachings and Chainer's Edicts. Try to leave up B so you can net a card. Dispel is abusive in this matchup and will often allow you to plunk down an early threat and still protect it. A third turn Angler with Dispel backup that untaps into UUU can end the game.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
Is the point inflation truly due to new user signups? I always thought that the number of points in the system was pretty balanced by the number of points on "dry" non trading accounts? Is there just a glut of points in the system because of people wanting to trade up IE people know their crap isn't really worth TCG Mid or whatever they are using now?
Personally as long as they make tix an option I think it will dry up the points pretty quick. Guys like me who trade chaff away ($1-3 rares) can now skip the middle man and just get tix for more redemptions. We'll see if people are willing to 100pp for 1 tix or if the value is much higher/lower. Puca may set that rate or make tix not an option which doesn't solve the inflation problem.
I played against Fortune's Favor last night and I don't think I ever gave my opponent the best deal, but I easily could have. Based on the fact he always chose the face down pile, I think he was using it as a dig spell to get to one of the bombs in his deck so there was really no way he could miss completely. (I gave him 2 lands face down twice vs 2 "c" level creatures face up.
I think using it as a dig spell is fine because if he sees his bomb he picks it and if not he takes the face down cards.
I think viewing it as "scry 2 then draw 2" is perfectly acceptable. (Technically it's look at the top 2 cards. you may put them into your GY, then Draw 2 cards).
So my thoughts are the more "equal" the cards in your deck are the worse this card is, but when there are very unequal options where throwing away 2 decent cards on top is the obvious choice its very solid.
If you are doing well you tend to see more PW since they fuel good decks. If 5000 people play in the league and open the full 8 packs then that's 330 liliana's that got opened. It could just be a string.
I am fairly new to MTGO and have been enjoying it but I can't seem to figure out how to keep my play clock from ticking down so quickly. Honestly, it seems every match I play that by game three I'm down to under five minutes remaining and my opponent is always still over 10 minutes. I try to play as fast as I can and I use F2 and F6 as often as I can. I try to make quick decisions and it seems from my POV that I'm playing every bit as fast as my opponents. So what am I doing wrong? Why is my clock always ticking down so much faster than my opponent's clock? The result is that I feel like I'm constantly rushing every turn, which doesn't make for a very fun experience. It makes it a lot more stressful than it should be and I'm always more prone to making misplays when I'm rushing every turn. Any suggestions or feedback is appreciated.
It comes with time. I know when I'm playing a new deck I don't know that I play a lot slower than I do when I play a deck I know well. You don't get a lot of time to think. One thing might be your stops. Be willing to add and remove stops during the game so that you don't have too many during the opponent's end step or upkeep unless it's really necessary. Also pay attention to what types of decks you play. I tend to avoid drafting white decks with tappers on MTGO since having to go through the motions to tap down an attacker every turn takes a lot of clock even though in paper people just shortcut and get over it.
UW Spirits is a thing in standard. It really depends on what is in Kaladesh. I would expect a small pop as long as they are in standard. Their Modern usefulness is sketchy.
The payout looks really weak but that's because I'm not used to looking at Play points as value when they really are probably better than straight packs if you are trying to change events.
I played in my first MTGO event in over a year last night. I can't comment on the price structure but the unlimited time to make my deck, the ability to change my deck, and ability to play 1-2 games and take a break without worrying when the round is over was really nice.
The payout looks really weak but that's because I'm not used to looking at Play points as value when they really are probably better than straight packs if you are trying to change events.
I played in my first MTGO event in over a year last night. I can't comment on the price structure but the unlimited time to make my deck, the ability to change my deck, and ability to play 1-2 games and take a break without worrying when the round is over was really nice.
Anyone out there collect sets of cards in MTGO? I was thinking it would be neat to have all the cards. But then I also was thinking just how likely is that aside from spending a ton of money? I mean it would be kind of neat having all those old cards I used to have physical cards for back in the day. Do people sell their whole collections like people do with their physical cards. I obtained nearly every card for other TCGs by buying bulk collections people don't care if they get much for them. Does this sort of thing go on with MTGO? Like I could buy someones collection of say 1,000 cards for pennies a card.
Yes people do it, but since it's more labor intensive than forking over a box of cards and people are more aware of the values most collection buying is done by chains.
*After a redeemable set's Redemption Guarantee Date has passed, such set will be available while supplies last or until its Cutoff Date, whichever comes first*
This is from redemption policy of wizards.
So how can I have to know about which come first? For example if I want to redeem born of the gods now, after garantee date is passed, how can I have to know my request will fail or not?
Sorry for english
If the redemption is available in the store they should have it in stock.
Hi guys, I feel completely off on this. So I have to pay ten bucks to play a shortened version of Magic where I'd have to pay more if I want to get good cards? Is there just a free database of cards where I can make my own decks and practice with them to see if I actually want to buy them?
I'm not sure what you mean by shortened version. MTGO is a complete play environment that contains a collection interface, casual and tournament play space and market. It simulates the paper card game but you can't proxy. Are you coming from paper Magic or some other magic themed game?
Yes and no. MTGO just launched a major client upgrade to modernize the interface et. Unfortunately the design process took so long that it feels 10 years old already.
The big challenge with MTGO is capturing the seamless feel of something like duels without losing the complexity of Magic The Gathering. Duels does it by omitting steps and phases.
I think wizards is brainstorming a new digital product. Considering how weak the market was to paying for upgrades in the last set of duels it has to capture the spending demand of players who play MTGO right now which is much higher on a $/player basis than duels patrons. The new digital game has to have ladder/tournament prize support from somewhere to capture more than a casual market.
I think non singles are a big question on everyone's mind. If they fix the price of a ticket at $1 then it does little to handle inflation since people will have to put riders to get tickets. If they let it float then it will become very obvious what the true value of a pucapoint is.
This deck appeared with the re-introduction of the Delve Mechanic in Khans of Tarkir. The deck uses cheep card advantage engines to dump cards into the graveyard allowing the pilot to quickly cast oversized Delve creatures such as Gurmag Angler and protect them with countermagic.
As of this writing the deck generally comprises about 5-8% of the 5-0 Pauper League decklists on MTGO. While it may not be the most popular archetype I've found it fun to play and at 30-40 tix one of the cheaper lists capable of a 5-0 finish.
Representative Decklist
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Gurmag Angler
1 Stormbound Geist
1 Sultai Scavenger
Spells
4 Brainstorm
4 Mental Note
4 Thought Scour
4 Counterspell
3 Deprive
3 Disfigure
1 Ghastly Demise
1 Doom Blade
1 Agony Warp
3 Ponder
2 Preordain
1 Gush
1 Grim Harvest
4 Dismal Backwater
1 Dimir Guildgate
4 Evolving Wilds
1 Mortuary Mire
1 Swamp
7 Island
3 Dispel
2 Shrivel
2 Annul
2 Stormbound Geist
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Hydroblast
1 Crypt Incursion
1 Agony Warp
Card Choices
Many of the card choices are fixed. The creature base will normally always consist of
4 Delver of Secrets and 4 Gurmag Angler. Delver of Secrets provides an early clock and protection from other Delver decks while Gurmag Angler is one of the hardest creatures to kill in the format.
Typically the deck will have 1 Sultai Scavenger for additional flying pressure and as room for sideboard options.
Stormbound Geist was the traditional choice for protection against edict effects, but many players are opting for Eldrazi Skyspawner instead due to a less restrictive color requirement. The geist has the added bonus of not dying to ping effects, but it does require double blue and it is vulnerable to graveyard hate since it returns from the grave.
Matchup Analysis and Sideboard Plan
vs UB Teachings - UB Teachings focuses on gaining board control at all costs and will often take its time to set up. Often there are no creatures and the deck depends on Curse of the Bloody Tome to win via decking. Casting a creature early with protection from a counterspell will often be very hard to answer. Continue to add creatures as they become available protecting Gurmag Angler. Cycle worthless creature removal away with Brainstorm and Mental Note. Eventually they will cast Curse of the Bloody Tome which fills your graveyard and allows for an endless supply of creatures they cannot answer.
SB Out
-3 Disfigure
-1 Ghastly Demise
-1 Doom Blade
-1 Agony Warp
SB In
+ 3 Dispel
+ 2 Nihil Spellbomb
+ 1 Stormbound Geist
Even if they are not playing Accumulated Knowledge, the Spellbombs raid their graveyard for Mystical Teachings and Chainer's Edicts. Try to leave up B so you can net a card. Dispel is abusive in this matchup and will often allow you to plunk down an early threat and still protect it. A third turn Angler with Dispel backup that untaps into UUU can end the game.
Final Thoughts
Is the point inflation truly due to new user signups? I always thought that the number of points in the system was pretty balanced by the number of points on "dry" non trading accounts? Is there just a glut of points in the system because of people wanting to trade up IE people know their crap isn't really worth TCG Mid or whatever they are using now?
Personally as long as they make tix an option I think it will dry up the points pretty quick. Guys like me who trade chaff away ($1-3 rares) can now skip the middle man and just get tix for more redemptions. We'll see if people are willing to 100pp for 1 tix or if the value is much higher/lower. Puca may set that rate or make tix not an option which doesn't solve the inflation problem.
I think using it as a dig spell is fine because if he sees his bomb he picks it and if not he takes the face down cards.
I think viewing it as "scry 2 then draw 2" is perfectly acceptable. (Technically it's look at the top 2 cards. you may put them into your GY, then Draw 2 cards).
So my thoughts are the more "equal" the cards in your deck are the worse this card is, but when there are very unequal options where throwing away 2 decent cards on top is the obvious choice its very solid.
It comes with time. I know when I'm playing a new deck I don't know that I play a lot slower than I do when I play a deck I know well. You don't get a lot of time to think. One thing might be your stops. Be willing to add and remove stops during the game so that you don't have too many during the opponent's end step or upkeep unless it's really necessary. Also pay attention to what types of decks you play. I tend to avoid drafting white decks with tappers on MTGO since having to go through the motions to tap down an attacker every turn takes a lot of clock even though in paper people just shortcut and get over it.
The payout looks really weak but that's because I'm not used to looking at Play points as value when they really are probably better than straight packs if you are trying to change events.
I played in my first MTGO event in over a year last night. I can't comment on the price structure but the unlimited time to make my deck, the ability to change my deck, and ability to play 1-2 games and take a break without worrying when the round is over was really nice.
The payout looks really weak but that's because I'm not used to looking at Play points as value when they really are probably better than straight packs if you are trying to change events.
I played in my first MTGO event in over a year last night. I can't comment on the price structure but the unlimited time to make my deck, the ability to change my deck, and ability to play 1-2 games and take a break without worrying when the round is over was really nice.
Yes people do it, but since it's more labor intensive than forking over a box of cards and people are more aware of the values most collection buying is done by chains.
If the redemption is available in the store they should have it in stock.
I'm not sure what you mean by shortened version. MTGO is a complete play environment that contains a collection interface, casual and tournament play space and market. It simulates the paper card game but you can't proxy. Are you coming from paper Magic or some other magic themed game?
The big challenge with MTGO is capturing the seamless feel of something like duels without losing the complexity of Magic The Gathering. Duels does it by omitting steps and phases.
I think wizards is brainstorming a new digital product. Considering how weak the market was to paying for upgrades in the last set of duels it has to capture the spending demand of players who play MTGO right now which is much higher on a $/player basis than duels patrons. The new digital game has to have ladder/tournament prize support from somewhere to capture more than a casual market.