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  • posted a message on Rivals of Ixalan planeswalker deck cards
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    On the subject of the walkers, I'm kind of wondering if the real Angrath will follow a similar pirate type theme to it's abilities.


    Likely not.

    They don't like (normal) PW's to have such narrow focus-
    sort of like how it was okay for Huatli, Dinosaur Knight to require Dinosaurs,
    but Huatli, Warrior Poet does not.


    Yet Tezzeret the Schemer required artifacts to run and it was a main set planeswalker. I'm not saying Angrath wont be self sufficient, but he may end up having a pirate bend to him.


    Artifacts are a lot more common and cover a much broader set of cards than specific tribes. Every set has artifacts, thus every set can support Tezzeret. Sets with specific tribes can be few and far between, dpending on the tribe.

    Tezzeret would more accurately be compared to a PW that required creatures than a PW that required a specific type of creature. It goes without saying that there are many planeswalkers that care about or require you having creatures.


    While this is true, Tezzeret only appears in a block/set with a strong artifact focus because these are the only instances where there are enough artifacts running around to make him worthwhile on paper.


    True enough, but my point was simply that Tezzeret really shouldn't be used as any sort of justification/precident for tribal planeswalkers. He's got an entire card type to pull from, which appears in every set. Tribal walkers get a fraction of a card type, and unless they're for the most basic of creature types, only even get those every few sets/years/etc.

    Just for comparison's sake Ixalan has :
    39 Pirates
    38 Dinosaurs

    21 Merfolk
    20 Vampires
    19 Artifacts

    Even a non-artifact Tribal block has very nearly as many artifacts as its minor tribes get creatures. Tezzeret printed in Ixalan would have almost as much* support as a tribal walker for either of the minor tribes would in a tribal set.

    *Barring non-creature spells that specifically support one tribe over the others.
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  • posted a message on Rivals of Ixalan planeswalker deck cards
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Quote from Empathogen »
    Quote from Colt47 »

    On the subject of the walkers, I'm kind of wondering if the real Angrath will follow a similar pirate type theme to it's abilities.


    Likely not.

    They don't like (normal) PW's to have such narrow focus-
    sort of like how it was okay for Huatli, Dinosaur Knight to require Dinosaurs,
    but Huatli, Warrior Poet does not.


    Yet Tezzeret the Schemer required artifacts to run and it was a main set planeswalker. I'm not saying Angrath wont be self sufficient, but he may end up having a pirate bend to him.


    Artifacts are a lot more common and cover a much broader set of cards than specific tribes. Every set has artifacts, thus every set can support Tezzeret. Sets with specific tribes can be few and far between, dpending on the tribe.

    Tezzeret would more accurately be compared to a PW that required creatures than a PW that required a specific type of creature. It goes without saying that there are many planeswalkers that care about or require you having creatures.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Legendary Creatures in Rivals of Ixalan
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    According to the card from the planeswalker deck, Angarth is a necromancer.


    His PWD card does include a recursion ability, but I'm not going to put too much stock in it until if/when we get some other indication as such. We've already got multiple necro-planeswalkers (Liliana and Bolas*), even if Angrath has some necromantic ability I doubt it'll be one of his foci.

    Sorin, Lord of Innistrad also has a sort of recursion ability, but it's flavored as him making them a vampire, not raising the dead.

    *Note that while Bolas has skill with necromancy lore-wise, none of his physical cards use recursion of any sort.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    Angrath is my favorite character in this whole story after finding out his backstory though. I hope the guy wins and gets off this plane. Pretty sure he's not as nasty when he's back at home. Mardu colors then, maybe?


    You say that, but we don't know what has happened to his daughters in the time he's been trapped on Ixalan.


    Like Amistad eh? Going home only to find his town and family destroyed, hating himself for not being able to protect them, live the rest of his life in grief and anger, approached by Bolas to go on a raging murderous fit.

    Or

    Go home found girls missing daddy very much, loving wife still loyal and eager to make more moos with him. As Daddy bragged about killing and pillaging and burning things on Ixalan, daughters look at him and said, "We want to do the same when we grow up!" "Daddy will teach you all about Rakdos, sweeties."


    As much as I'm loathe to admit it, I think the first option is more interesting. Plus, we've still got the well-adjusted parentwalker with Tamiyo, so Angrath could serve as a sort of counter example to her. A warning of sorts for why planeswalkers shouldn't get attached to planebound beings.

    It makes me sad just to think about it really.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
    Yeah, I don't think he'll be mardu*. IMO it's more interesting that we finally get a sympathetic B/R mana instead or the kill-happy crazy ones for a change.


    *Not that I'm opposed to it, honestly I wish we had more 3color walkers already. Thus far we've only got Grixis (Bolas), Bant (Tamiyo) and Temur(Sarkhan). Plus the 5color Urza-Un-walker.

    They've skipped the opportunities for a Naya walker at least twice now (Samut, who had a naya creature card and Huatli who's a member of a naya nation, and a bit of a stretch there's also Ajani, who's been all of those colors before[but it pretty settled into W/G mana now]) in favor of yet more 2colors.
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  • posted a message on Dominaria art Pax unplugged Jaya's Back!
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    Looking at Jaya's art, I don't think we should worry that she's going to be too similar to Chandra. Chandra is a young upstart, not dissimilar to how Jaya was when she was younger. But Jaya has clearly changed. Her expression shows restraint and wisdom.


    Living for however many years can do that to you. It's too bad it didn't do that to everyone.


    To be fair, Nahiri spent a millennium trapped in the pitch-darkness of the Helvault with a bunch of unsavory characters. It's not entirely surprising that she's a little unhinged.


    Nahiri lived for quite a long time before she got trapped in the Helvault, and much of her time was spent wasting away near the Eye of Ugin to keep watch on the Eldrazi. When she regained her appreciation of life after the Eldrazi got loose, she tried to get Sorin to regain some of that himself, but it escalated quickly when Sorin revealed that he built a planar defense system that allowed him to basically ignore what was happening on Zendikar and because Sorin isn't the most tactful individual.

    What I'm saying is that even before the Helvault detention, Nahiri had issues. In fact, it's probably worth mentioning that longevity has a tendency to drive people insane in the MTG multiverse if one doesn't have a strong mind or some way of getting around it (like Jodah with his memory mirror, or Bolas spending his time with making plots that span centuries or learning useless [to him] stuff).


    Yeah, Nahiri's pretty much equal parts Oldwalker-crazy, prison-warden-to-eldritch-abominations-crazy, and trapped-with-demons-for-a-thousand-years-crazy. It's, well it's probably not a good place for ANYONE's mental health.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
    So, like a few others I would say Pirate, just because they're the ones forced from their ancestral lands and rejected by the Sun Empire, left to wander the seas with no hope of a new home and still made it work. But I also agree that they'd feel ridiculously out of place controlling Orazca (an inland city).

    I don't want the Sun Empire to get it, because even without the Immortal Sun it's still be a HUGE morale boost, likely to embolden them and encourage their expansionism.

    Neither do I want the Vampires to claim it for two reasons; 1) They weren't AFTER the city. They were after the Sun. Without the Sun, there's little reason for them to even WANT the city. (Again, an inland city which it would be difficult for them to even reinforce if they wanted to keep it.) And 2) Like Flisch I want to visit Torrezon on a future return, and if the vampires controlled Orazca at the end of RIX, it feels like that would virtually necessitate that a return focus on that instead.

    SO really that just leaves the River Heralds. There's really no downside to the River Heralds occupying the city, so long as the Sun is removed. The Sun is the dangerous thing they were really meant to protect, not the city itself, and giving Orazca to the River Heralds keeps us at equilibrium for future returns.
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  • posted a message on Legendary Creatures in Rivals of Ixalan
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    I just hope that Angarth is a good card. Hultai is terrible but Gideon of the Trials and Liliana, the Last Hope were both good.

    As far as guessing his abilities, probably something to do with chaos. Dealing damage, discarding cards, and maybe even destroying lands.


    I am hoping he has Gideon's little signature become a creature thing, Angrath is a fighter it seems so he should be able to get into the Mix, I would love his Minus ability to be something like -x Put a colorless Equipment artifact token named Angrath's Weapon onto the battlefield. It has "Equipped creature gets +x/+x and Equip 1" or something along those lines to tie in with his backstory and being a blacksmith.


    Considering Angrath primarily uses his chains to fight, and he can use them from a distance, I wouldn't bet on him having a Gideon-type ability. Samut is a close-quarters fighter, and she wasn't given that ability.

    Not saying that would make it impossible, but it'd be less likely to me.



    Gideon primarily fights using his sural, which is really equivalent to Angrath's chains, but he gets to be a creature. That's not to say that Angrath WILL, just saying that his chains don't affect that possibility in the slightest when they're virtually the same thing as our primary "becomes a creature" walker's own weapon.
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  • posted a message on Animate Library and Novellamental Wizards spoiler
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    Alright - what happens if you phase out your library-creature with say Reality Ripple

    It doesn't leave the field so the replacement effect of the Aura doesn't happen... if you try to draw a card... then what? You aren't trying to draw from an empty library, but a nonexistent one so I don't think it's a game loss... can you still draw from a phased library?


    My inclination is to say that No. You can't. Phasing specifically states that you treat things that are phased out as if they didn't exist (if it doesn't exist you can't draw from or in any way interact with), but that phasing doesn't trigger any leaves/enters the battlefield abilities. Your animated library would phase out and because it's not technically "leaving the battlefield" Animate Library's exile clause wouldn't trigger so you just wouldn't have a library until it phased back in.

    Not really a Rules guy though, so yeah.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    Anyone who tells me that artwork doesn't confirm Azor's involvement in any capacity at this point is nuts.

    Nuts, I say!
    I'm really trying to see the similarities everyone else seems to see. But the Immortal Sun and the Azoruis symbol look as different as possible while both being triangles.

    "It's not going to be Emrakul. The corruption of Innistrad is probably the Phyrexians." -Some couple months ago.

    At any rate, it's either Azor or creative made a mistake. You can't feature a symbol, that is this close to an existing symbol associated with a character we have not met yet but was still important to the story, that itself is associated with a character that is purposefully left mysterious.

    Reality does these things, but stories shouldn't, especially one that is as compact as Magic's story. Curveballs are fine, but at this point it'd be straight-up misleading.

    There, I said it. If my 'theory' is not true, it's actually creative's fault. dot dot dot

    As an aside I'm currently not counting out an Azor/Ugin partnership, but Azor is a given at this point.


    I've honestly got to agree with this. They could have made the Sun/Binding ANY SHAPE THEY WANTED but they specifically chose one that was overtly similar to that of a known Guild who's founder is strongly hinted at being a planeswalker.

    It being a coincidence is hard to swallow. It being a deliberate red harring also makes little sense to me, because this sets people up to expect an appearance by a specific character, and those people will be disappointed. If Azor isn't involved, there's no reason to hint that he is (when he actually isn't) when they could have simply left it nebulous.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    With so much foreshadowing towards another return to Ravnica, I’m wondering if Bolas will be involved and if he’ll try and get Niv Mizzit, Rakdos, and Lazav as minions.

    I don't think there's any way that Niv Mizzet's ego would ever allow him to subordinate himself to another being, even one as obviously more powerful as Bolas.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    It hasn't been 'missing' for thousands of years. The Legion of Dusk has only been 'looking' for the sun for less then 300 years. Only found Ixalan recently. The Sun Empire had it a few hundred years ago and only recently became a single nation once again, so only a few dozen years were spent looking for it. Neither the River Heralds nor the Pirates are actually looking for it so its not odd at all the no one has found it.


    Then Ugin is completely ruled out as the Guardian, he was dead* at the time of the Sun's release.

    and I forgot about those questions, aside from Angrath being the best thing about this set.


    *Not dead dead, but not exactly alive, he was as they say. "Only Mostly Dead." but he was indisposed of at the time.


    No, it's been missing that long, but for many hundreds of years the LoD(or the group that would become the LoD) was wrapped up in their own various internal wars, and then the conquest of Torrezon, and so wasn't actively searching for it (other than Elenda, who was presumed dead at the time).


    I, too, had thought that the timeline ruled out Ugin, as I'd thought the Guide placed the disappearance of the Sun at 800years ago, but no that's when Elendra returned with Vampirism, after having been gone for an unspecified but considerable length of time. So it's possible/probable that it all wet down before Bolas ganked Ugin.
    Not quite going against what you're saying, but Elenda returned 500 years ago after centuries of searching for the sun. The sun was stolen at some point, war broke out 800 years ago, 300 years after the war started Elenda came back and ended the war, over the course of the next 400 years they conquered the previously unnamed continent and named it Torrezon.

    So while Ugin isn't ruled out by this timeline he does seem to be less likely. With his last activity being 1280 years ago, the Sun would of had to go missing before that, be given to the Sun Emipre, who misuses it; and then 'given' to the River Heralds. While not impossible, it seems unlikely to me that the sun went missing that long ago.


    Ah, yes. Thank you for the corrections.

    While at this point I kind of feel like it's going to be Ugin, the timeline does still feel wonky to me as well.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
    It hasn't been 'missing' for thousands of years. The Legion of Dusk has only been 'looking' for the sun for less then 300 years. Only found Ixalan recently. The Sun Empire had it a few hundred years ago and only recently became a single nation once again, so only a few dozen years were spent looking for it. Neither the River Heralds nor the Pirates are actually looking for it so its not odd at all the no one has found it.


    Then Ugin is completely ruled out as the Guardian, he was dead* at the time of the Sun's release.

    and I forgot about those questions, aside from Angrath being the best thing about this set.


    *Not dead dead, but not exactly alive, he was as they say. "Only Mostly Dead." but he was indisposed of at the time.


    No, it's been missing that long, but for many hundreds of years the LoD(or the group that would become the LoD) was wrapped up in their own various internal wars, and then the conquest of Torrezon, and so wasn't actively searching for it (other than Elenda, who was presumed dead at the time).


    I, too, had thought that the timeline ruled out Ugin, as I'd thought the Guide placed the disappearance of the Sun at 800years ago, but no that's when Elendra returned with Vampirism, after having been gone for an unspecified but considerable length of time. So it's possible/probable that it all wet down before Bolas ganked Ugin.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    Jit just strikes me as odd that two of our most blackest, most reality sucks walkers dont have offsprings. I mean you have century old plans, your own plane, huge Manor Vesses. But what if the Die? Isn't procreating like a form of immortality in itself?


    Not really. Its a cute thought for is humans but to characters like Lily or Bolas its not equivalent. Your offspring aren't you. Even of they have half of your genetics(hell even 100% as a clone) they're still going to be different. I'm sure Lily has slept her way across the multiverse. In the old webcomics she was caught in a closet with some dude before she sparked. But I cant see her wanting to keep and raise a child. Its just not like her. And I imagine Bolas just doesn't have time. Dragons are umbelievably long lived anyway. Hell aince we don't know how long the average Elder Dragon's life span is he and Ugin may as well be effevlctively immortal. And what if Little Nicy doesnt want to run the family business when pops bites the big one? For someone whos whole shtick is getting HIS power back "immortality" via offspring just doesn't do it.


    Even worse, what if Little Nicy decides he doesn't want to just patiently wait for daddy to shuffle off this mortal coil?

    Bolas strikes me as the type who wouldn't procreate because he refuses to give life to his own rival. Note that I said procreate, not create. Bolas has himself stated that he's sired multiple races, which he would naturally view as inferior and ultimately non-threatening or easily kept in line.
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  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
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    Alison Luhrs confirmed that Angrath is RB.
    https://twitter.com/MTGAlison/status/923205066793746432

    EDIT: going thru her feed I also see that she state Mavren scene in the race part 1 is month or so before Vraska crashes her ship. Unknown where his is currently.


    Re Mavren*: Yeah, Kumena mentions that the Legion has a visionary leading their search for Orazca when trying to persuade Tishana that they need to claim Orazca first (which would logically be Mavren, since Vona has never been hinted at having any special sort of divination type ability), and that took place right before Kumena/Tishana wrecked the Vona's ship and the Belligerent.

    *GAh damnit! maVRen maVRen maVRen. Not Marven.
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