MTG Salvation

I'm not a grown ass man tearing up over Kami of Whispered Hopes' flavor text.... I just... got something in my eye...

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No, it says "as long as", so this ends when the turn ends. If I'm mistaken, then you not just straight-up print menace on the card? It would always have menace (unless you somehow flash it in during someone else's turn, which seems like a such narrow possibility to not give it straight-up menace.)

A judge will surely pipe-in with the true answer

Yes, it ends at the end of turn, but I believe their point was that all you have to do to get the boost back on subsequent turns is draw an extra card again. It's not a one and done boost.

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It’s looking grim for Olivia in that story

katilda pops out of the key frees Sigarda and sorin realizing he never needed to make avacyn and Sigarda was all that he needed to protect the humans so the vampires don't starve

I’m starting to speculate sorin made avacyn before the great mending Aka while he had a god spark

We... know that he did?

Sorin made Avacyn around a thousand years ago, the mending was something like 60-70 years ago.

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• Creature – Human Soldier Werewolf

This is not new. Every 'normal' Werewolf from Innistrad (excluding Emrakul's corruptions from Eldritch Moon) is a Human Werewolf on front face (sometimes with a third type too) and just Werewolf on back face. However, "Soldier" would make me think that perhaps it's a white Werewolf. Most Soldiers are white.

It would be fitting, IMO, for Arlinn to have organized a werewolf army to help defend humans from the other monster types, perhaps in exchange for lenience towards other werewolves.

She was an Archmage of Goldnight, I could see her going Naya and leading a sort of W/R/G "Pack Goldnight."

There were also still a few Wolfir left that could be involved.

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Quote from Evil Never Dies »

There is a Multiverse in D&D too?

Yes, but I believe it's more like Heaven and Hell, where there are like overlays or layers. There is a Fae world, a demon world, spirit world, etc. Idk the entire ins and outs of the concept but that's the gist if it.

There's the Material plane (aka the mortal world) which contains numerous - I guess subplanes? - such as Greyhawk, Faerun, Eberron, essentially all of the normal game setting planes. The Material plane sorta overlaps with the Feywild and the Shadowfell as kinda-sorta parallel dimensions that occupy the same "space" as the Material planes, just ya'know, a little to the left of reality.

Then there's the Inner planes, which are the elemental planes, Fire, Water, Earth, Air. After the inner planes are the Outer planes, which are the various Heaven/Hell analogs. Beyond the Outer planes is the Far Realm, which is essentially an alien hellscape beyond the grasp of mortal comprehension.

There are also the Ethereal plane and the Astral Sea, which are vaguely like the Blind Eternities, where they're "the space between realms." Though unlike the Blind Eternities, creatures can and do actually live there (at least, in the Astral Sea, I can't recall anything that lives in the Ethereal plane).

EDIT: Felt that I should point out that there are 16 Outer planes, not simply 1 "heaven" plane and 1 "hell" plane. I also forgot about Sigil/The Outlands. The outlands exsists between the outerplanes as a sort of hub connecting to all of them. It's a circular plane, like a wheel, with 16 gate towns each having a portal to a corresponding Outer plane. Sigil is essentially the capital, a huge ring shaped planar metropolis at the center of the plane.

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tales of ancestors - THOSE FOOLS! This could have been a white card easily because of happily ever after WHITE NEEDS BETTER DRAW! (In other words this is a incredible group hug draw card that should have been white)

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Also why is Tales of the Ancestors blue and not white? This card would fit in White both thematically and mechanically, what a waste.

Maro's already on record saying that white wont be getting these types of cards, even if they might thematically fit the color, because white still won't get mass card draw. While they're still debating the exact limitations for white card draw - is drawing 2 even ok? - even the potential for a whole new hand full of cards is too much.

For the record, I think that's BS, but it is what it is.

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That Stoic Farmer is a joke, it's worse than Kor Cartographer, it's only upsides are Foretell and being 3/3 but still... what a let-down.

Foretell is a BIG upside. You can cast Stoic Farmer with only 2 lands, where you can only cast Kor Cartographer once you're at 4 mana. In *most* formats, if you're at 4 mana in white, you should have better things to do. In those other formats such as Commander, Farmer isn't an Either/Or with Cartographer, it should be an And.

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Very good card for cEDH , as the massive amount of search / tutor effects are very well countered by this.

Its like a Aven Mindcensor on super crack mega level.


It even allows you to play the lands you steal from a fetchland activation.

It does it all.

It kinda feels like yet one more thing that White is now worse at than other colors. Add it to the list.

That is perhaps and overreaction, but it's certainly the feeling I get from it.

I admit I was perhaps a bit harsh on Kaya being able to take people with her. It just felt like it came out of nowhere with no foreshadowing of any kind. Little more than her going "Oh, yeah, I can totally do that."

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Jace and Nissa where making their way up correct? Hopefully they can catch Akiri, falling from a huge high like that would be a awful death with the waiting for death.

There's also still Kaza and Orah flying below on Kaza's staff. They could probably catch her as well.

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I'm almost shaking but I cannot take credit for discovering this possible hint at what's coming:

**Possible Spoilers?**

The Ancients

The Tolgath

Someone brought it up on Reddit but the Ancients were a group of old planeswalkers, older than perhaps most of the Oldwalkers we know, though this is perhaps speculation on my part. They warred against the upstart Tolgath, then a 'new' generation of planeswalkers whose desire to learn somehow led to the conflict between the two groups. The Ancients and the Tolgath presumably could have had outposts on Zendikar, and thier war may have been interplanar in nature.

But even if these are the Ancients being referred to in the card, what does Nahiri stand to inherit from them? Their technology? Lore? Or their antagonism towards the younger generation of planeswalkers meddling in their affairs? Nissa and Jace witnessed what Nahiri did to Innistrad. They also know that for whatever reason, Ugin Nahiri and Sorin decided to trap the Eldrazi Titans on Zendikar. I doubt Nissa and Jace would have warm feelings towards Nahiri and I'm equally doubtful that Nahiri could believe this younger generation could ever understand the sacrifices she undertook to protect her world.

I could be wrong but names have meaning and this would not be the first time in the recent past that WotC has referenced some pretty obscure lore as the basis of a story arc.

I don't think Jace and/or Nissa actually know that Nahiri had anything to do with the events on Innistrad, though..? Is it ever stated in the story?

Unless I'm forgetting something, the only planeswalker who ever encountered Nahiri on Innistrad was Sorin. Liliana knows it was Nahiri, because she was present during Sorin's recruiting of the Voldarens in Innistrad's Last Hope though I don't believe she ever knew just WHO Nahiri was, nor do I think she ever shared that information with anyone in the Gatewatch. At least, none that I can recall in the stories, and it's highly unlikely she would have bothered to do so after the fact. She's not exactly the most forthcoming with details.

I also don't recall anyone mentioning it in War of the Spark, just that she and Sorin were fighting, then mysteriously not fighting any more.

"Choose! Cake or Death!?"


He should have chosen the chicken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVH0gZO5lq0&ab_channel=EddieIzzard