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  • posted a message on are ypu happy with the set so far?
    ^ Amen, they still haven't figured out that magic is most fun when there are a lo of strong cards to use in brews.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Why doesn't wizards make really good equipment cards anymore.
    The never ending sets of bad cards end up making standard really dull IMO
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Why doesn't wizards make really good equipment cards anymore.
    Quote from prismatic elf »
    Equipment cards used to be really good, like all of the swords, Lightning Greaves Loxodon Warhammer Skullclamp, Cranial Plating the list goes on and on. Seems like now most are a waste of time or, are to expensive to equip. I miss the old days of playing with good equip cards. Am I the only that feels this way?


    I would argue that wizards doesn't make good cards anymore
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Graf Rats and Midnight Scavengers (New "Meld" mechanic)
    The Wizards design team is ruining this game for a few years now, I'm surprised everyone hasn't caught on by now

    80%+ of all sets are junk nowadays, ruins brew variety. The cards have also been lame as ****. It doenst even if they come up with a good mechanic or not, all the cards that have it will suck and/or be unfun
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    I would like to reiterate my post:

    I think Kologahans is a good mind term investment, but I think MTG is no longer a good long term investment with how Wizards is running it.

    But if you want to play a better, much cheaper game, just place Force of Will, hahaha. MTG is such a money pit for a game with such a terribly designed power level(Most of the cards are un playable crap), and terrible job keeping the prices down so you can brew often. Force of will is like MTG, but super cheap, very well designed cards, a better designed game(Think MTG without the Mana screw and many more combat and card options)and you get a commander that's a lot more interesting then what EDH ham-fistedly tries to do

    I think MTG's days of being a solid investment are numbered IMO, they are treating it like an investment 1st and game 2nd when it comes to reprints, and $1,000+ decks combined with their inability to print many good/fun* cards in a set will kill this game.

    MTG's success comes from being a fun and accessible game 1st, not an investment(Unless they really wants Modern to be the next legacy). Until MTG learns that, i'll be saving a lot more money, heh
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Saint Tiraft »
    Quote from Saint Tiraft »
    Quote from Teysa_Karlov »


    Impressive, there is zero in that post that is actually true.

    1) Magic's growth is consistent, and is still the number one CCG on the planet by sales and popularity. Pokemon is 2, YGO is 3, Force of Will is 4th.

    2) Given a choice of all candidates, only 12% of voting Americans support Trump. Only 21% support Clinton. That means 67% of voting Americans support neither. And that's the US, let alone the world.


    Ironic, I think that is closer to the mark for your own post instead

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39

    The current death of MTG is hard to articulate, but it's happening. I can see it in the attitude at the stores, the people who play it. Truth is, most people are retarded and not all opinions are equal, and I think it is still early enough that most people can not see it. But it will become more evident in time, and perhaps then you may happen to think back to this post in a few years. People just are not excited about the game, the cards and decks for standard are just not as fun, and people are priced out of modern and with so few new good cards coming into it, it is growing stale. They think banning reasonable decks like Twin will solve this, but that's absurd and they are crazy. Ive been playing this game from its inception, and I can say that Magic has been in a slow death after RtR. It'll be a long death, and it wont ever vanish entirely(it'll likely end up like pokemon) IMO. But this wildly successful game is not going to be around in anything like it's current state in 10 years, if at all. Agree or not, it's up to you and this is a bold claim. But it's obvious to me, and I did several MTG tournies a week of all formats for years, and I travel around. Some stores are not hit as much by Wizards ******* up the game as others, but as a whole, compared to the last several years, it's very evident that this game is tanking now. The reason is the absurd prices, to many worthless cards in packs/standard that really don't allow for much competitive brewing, and eternal formats being a huge 'investment'. That trifecta is what is going to kill the game, coupled with Wizards stupidity in how they run this company.

    The game is currently at it's all time high popularity so your entire premise is completely incorrect. We're here to talk about prices, not why you feel the game is going to die. Please stop posting.

    The two are very linked(lol..?). It's absurd how I have to type this...

    MTG is going to be a bad investment long term, and a lot of people are going to loose a lot. This forums activity may even be an indication of that..

    Also, way to dodge how I pointed out that you where incorrect. Why is it so hard for people to see the obvious? It's mind blowing, they just dodge and see things how they want to so easily

    You haven't made a single good point, you've conjectured a bunch based on some anecdotal evidence - NONE of that carries any actual weight in an argument. It's clear to me that you don't know anything about game design (you cite 'bad cards' as a reason why the game is dying which is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard), you're incorrect about peak popularity points (Khans sold much more than any other magic set in history and it came AFTER RTR), and you're wrong in your overall critical analysis of TWO formats as Standard is VERY highly rated currently (it's a brewers paradise with cards like Brain in a Jar and Pyromancer's Goggles have decks built around them) and modern is as diverse and non stale as it's ever been. Pros who've been vocal about their HATRED of modern (PVDDR) are even writing articles singing it's praises lately. You are factually wrong about every thing you've said that isn't your personal experience (which again, means nothing).

    Please, stop posting.


    Ive seen stores stop running events due to lack of sign ups, I talk to MTG players at tournies several times a week, at several diferent shops, and the opinions all around are getting much worse.

    Those are facts man... You dont know where I get my info, didnt ask how I got there, and just jumped to a favorable conclusion for you. If I where to tell you how you are acting, I'd get a flame warning, hahah. It would not be pretty

    @Otherguy: There are several other polls that show similar stuff...be better then this.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Saint Tiraft »
    Quote from Teysa_Karlov »
    Quote from Saint Tiraft »
    Magic is ruining itself as a constructed game, it's a shame most people dont see it. But most people do support a Clinton or a Trump...


    Impressive, there is zero in that post that is actually true.

    1) Magic's growth is consistent, and is still the number one CCG on the planet by sales and popularity. Pokemon is 2, YGO is 3, Force of Will is 4th.

    2) Given a choice of all candidates, only 12% of voting Americans support Trump. Only 21% support Clinton. That means 67% of voting Americans support neither. And that's the US, let alone the world.


    Ironic, I think that is closer to the mark for your own post instead

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39

    The current death of MTG is hard to articulate, but it's happening. I can see it in the attitude at the stores, the people who play it. Truth is, most people are retarded and not all opinions are equal, and I think it is still early enough that most people can not see it. But it will become more evident in time, and perhaps then you may happen to think back to this post in a few years. People just are not excited about the game, the cards and decks for standard are just not as fun, and people are priced out of modern and with so few new good cards coming into it, it is growing stale. They think banning reasonable decks like Twin will solve this, but that's absurd and they are crazy. Ive been playing this game from its inception, and I can say that Magic has been in a slow death after RtR. It'll be a long death, and it wont ever vanish entirely(it'll likely end up like pokemon) IMO. But this wildly successful game is not going to be around in anything like it's current state in 10 years, if at all. Agree or not, it's up to you and this is a bold claim. But it's obvious to me, and I did several MTG tournies a week of all formats for years, and I travel around. Some stores are not hit as much by Wizards ******* up the game as others, but as a whole, compared to the last several years, it's very evident that this game is tanking now. The reason is the absurd prices, to many worthless cards in packs/standard that really don't allow for much competitive brewing, and eternal formats being a huge 'investment'. That trifecta is what is going to kill the game, coupled with Wizards stupidity in how they run this company.

    The game is currently at it's all time high popularity so your entire premise is completely incorrect. We're here to talk about prices, not why you feel the game is going to die. Please stop posting.

    The two are very linked(lol..?). It's absurd how I have to type this...

    MTG is going to be a bad investment long term, and a lot of people are going to loose a lot. This forums activity may even be an indication of that..

    Also, way to dodge how I pointed out that you where incorrect. Why is it so hard for people to see the obvious? It's mind blowing, they just dodge and see things how they want to so easily
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Teysa_Karlov »
    Quote from Saint Tiraft »
    Magic is ruining itself as a constructed game, it's a shame most people dont see it. But most people do support a Clinton or a Trump...


    Impressive, there is zero in that post that is actually true.

    1) Magic's growth is consistent, and is still the number one CCG on the planet by sales and popularity. Pokemon is 2, YGO is 3, Force of Will is 4th.

    2) Given a choice of all candidates, only 12% of voting Americans support Trump. Only 21% support Clinton. That means 67% of voting Americans support neither. And that's the US, let alone the world.


    Ironic, I think that is closer to the mark for your own post instead

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39

    The current death of MTG is hard to articulate, but it's happening. I can see it in the attitude at the stores, the people who play it. Truth is, most people are <bad> and not all opinions are equal, and I think it is still early enough that most people can not see it. But it will become more evident in time, and perhaps then you may happen to think back to this post in a few years. People just are not excited about the game, the cards and decks for standard are just not as fun, and people are priced out of modern and with so few new good cards coming into it, it is growing stale. They think banning reasonable decks like Twin will solve this, but that's absurd and they are crazy. Ive been playing this game from its inception, and I can say that Magic has been in a slow death after RtR. It'll be a long death, and it wont ever vanish entirely(it'll likely end up like pokemon) IMO. But this wildly successful game is not going to be around in anything like it's current state in 10 years, if at all. Agree or not, it's up to you and this is a bold claim. But it's obvious to me, and I did several MTG tournies a week of all formats for years, and I travel around. Some stores are not hit as much by Wizards ******* up the game as others, but as a whole, compared to the last several years, it's very evident that this game is tanking now. The reason is the absurd prices, to many worthless cards in packs/standard that really don't allow for much competitive brewing, and eternal formats being a huge 'investment'. That trifecta is what is going to kill the game, coupled with Wizards stupidity in how they run this company.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Magic is ruining itself as a constructed game, it's a shame most people dont see it. But most people do support a Clinton or a Trump...
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Full Set List is Up
    These sets need to be renamed to Eternal Drafters and Modern Drafters.

    Then they need to cut the crap with these *****y draft sets and print real Modern and Eternal Masters

    Until they do, I'm playing the better designed Force of Will Trading Card Game(It's a better designed MTG, I really suggest everyone checks it out. It's pretty anime themed though, heh) and waiting for Wizards to learn their lesson. Which will likely be never though, 'cuz they have proven themselves to be greedy snip over the last few years. But a boy can dream I suppose.. But wizards will not get a dime more of my money until they stop this insanity

    MTG is a game 1st, and all of it's success has stemmed from that. They need to understand this
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Kolligans is a good buy IMO

    But if you want to play a better, much cheaper game, just place Force of Will, hahaha. MTG is such a money pit for a game with such a terribly designed power level(Most of the cards are un playable crap), and terrible job keeping the prices down so you can brew often. Force of will is like MTG, but super cheap, very well designed cards, a better designed game(Think MTG without the Mana screw and many more combat and card options)and you get a commander that's a lot more interesting then what EDH ham-fistedly tries to do

    I think MTG's days of being a solid investment are numbered IMO, they are treating it like an investment 1st and game 2nd when it comes to reprints, and $1,000+ decks combined with their inability to print many good/fun* cards in a set will kill this game.

    MTG's success comes from being a fun and accessible game 1st, not an investment(Unless they really wants Modern to be the next legacy). Until MTG learns that, i'll be saving a lot more money, heh
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on No New Incoming Format
    I currently play Force of Will, it's still fine and balanced, it's actually gotten better with some awesome new sets.

    A OTK isnt something that happens, maybe your info is old

    It really is MTG but better..and so much cheaper..so you can affordably brew decks. The power level on the cards are actually good to, so it's much easier to brew with then MTG, where 90% of the cards are trash(Wizards of the coast is terrible about creating a set with well balanced cards, they lost their touch years ago)

    I was a doubter, but now I'm a fan boy
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on No New Incoming Format
    Just play Force of Will, it's MTG but better and far cheaper
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Disappointment of SOI
    The set sucks in terms of constructed fun cards, compared to the old Innistrad

    Huge dissapointment
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on The Cards spoiled! Do you think this set is a dissapointment? -Poll
    The set has been fully spoiled! http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/shadowsoverinnistrad

    I loved the original Innistrad, and it was amazingly fun for constructed. I look at these new cards, and it's just so unfun/bad for compared to the 1st Innistrad to me. Am I crazy though? I would love to hear your take on it all!

    Posted in: New Card Discussion
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