With the announcement of monarch cards for mtgo, would any of them be run? Palace Sentinels seems like it could have a place and a reason to splash white.
To me, the banlist appears to be rather confusing due to the front page, the deck checker, and what it is supposed to be all being different. Is there a way to fix this? (ie. Cloudpost is banned but the front page and the legality checker say it is legal)
1. TLR_TLR: I am new to the format, and my username is the same. My schedule clears up in a couple of weeks and then I will join the format.
2. Banning Glimmerpost will hurt the deck while allowing more decks to exist. The deck would not be nearly as oppresive and gives the format more options.
3. Whatever is going to be banned needs to be banned soon.
Question #1: The deck currently is too consistent and oppressive to continue to exist without any change. That leaves banning one of the three options below:
- Cloudpost: I am completely against killing a deck unless completely necessary. Banning Cloudpost kills the deck.
- Glimmerpost: This would give the deck a far worse aggro matchup, while giving it worse consistency at assembling enough mana to cast fatties.
- Eye of Ugin: Banning this would give the deck a far worse end game. This would allow other control decks to exist while not hurting any other deck. The deck would most likely have to replace it with Sanctum of Ugin
If something needed to be banned, I would recommend banning Glimmerpost, as it takes away a lot of the deck's consistency, as well as hurting the deck's aggro matchup. Doing so would also allow a ramp version to exist.
Unbanning cards is also an option. A poll should probably be opened asking what cards should be banned/unbanned.
Lastly, if Eye of Ugin would be banned, instead just say it can't be run in the same deck as Cloudpost. The card can be used in other decks after all.
While Cloudpost archetypes are overpowered, there are options other than banning it. Instead of killing the deck, maybe banning either Glimmerpost or Eye of ugin could allow the deck to exist without being as oppresive. Giving the format more time to adjust, and add Ghost Quarter/Tectonic Edge is another option that could tone down the deck.
Additionally, unbanning some cards could help the format.
Goblin Recruiter- While it is banned in legacy, this is only due to time constraints in paper, while on MTGO players have a clock. The issue with this is that it would force the format to be played under the vintage filter instead of legacy.
PhysmRosmay, to be able to help you, we would need to know what kind of metagame you have. The list itself is fine, although I would cut one Snow-Covered Mountain for another Scrying Sheets without knowing your metagame. It seems like you have a lot of decks that are weak to blood moon and 5 toughness creatures, likely showing a metagame dominated by some combination of bant eldrazi, abzan midrange, and grixis delver. You also seem to have burn being prevalent in your meta. If this were the case, you would probably want ensnaring bridge in your deck and possibly another chandra. Also, telling us what you have lost to in the last 6 weeks could help us figure out how to help you.
So, Saffron Olive plays Skred Red, verses 3 great matchups and 2 terrible matchups and loses to infect due to his terrible decklist. If only he had an actually good list...
For me, Neither Junk nor Jund have been difficult matchups, and I have not bought Blood Moon yet. The two reasons why Jund usually sees more play than Junk:
1. Junk does not have access to Lightning Bolt, so it has a hard time dealing with one drops.
2. Junk doesn't have a black fastland, so it takes more damage from its manabase, making it more vunrable to burn.
With the second reason eliminated, Junk could probably rise above Jund, as Junk is much better at grinding. If Abzan became the deck to beat, Eternal Scourge and Stormbreath Dragon would become the finishers of choice.
Additionally, why is Misthollow Griffin banned? Eternal Scourge is legal and doesn't pose a problem
2. Banning Glimmerpost will hurt the deck while allowing more decks to exist. The deck would not be nearly as oppresive and gives the format more options.
3. Whatever is going to be banned needs to be banned soon.
- Cloudpost: I am completely against killing a deck unless completely necessary. Banning Cloudpost kills the deck.
- Glimmerpost: This would give the deck a far worse aggro matchup, while giving it worse consistency at assembling enough mana to cast fatties.
- Eye of Ugin: Banning this would give the deck a far worse end game. This would allow other control decks to exist while not hurting any other deck. The deck would most likely have to replace it with Sanctum of Ugin
If something needed to be banned, I would recommend banning Glimmerpost, as it takes away a lot of the deck's consistency, as well as hurting the deck's aggro matchup. Doing so would also allow a ramp version to exist.
Unbanning cards is also an option. A poll should probably be opened asking what cards should be banned/unbanned.
Lastly, if Eye of Ugin would be banned, instead just say it can't be run in the same deck as Cloudpost. The card can be used in other decks after all.
Additionally, unbanning some cards could help the format.
4 Scrying Sheets
18 Snow-Covered Mountain
Creatures
2 Eternal Scourge
4 Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Instant & Sorceries
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Skred
1 Mizzium Mortars
1 Roast
4 Anger of the Gods
1 Blasphemous Act
4 Relic of Progenitus
4 Blood Moon
1 Batterskull
Planeswalkers
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
4 Koth of the Hammer
1 Chandra, Flamecaller
2 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
1 Shattering Spree
1 Vandalblast
4 Dragon's Claw
2 Sudden Shock
3 Molten Rain
@brich84: What is your list. If you are doing that well, a list would be a great discussion point and resource.
1. Junk does not have access to Lightning Bolt, so it has a hard time dealing with one drops.
2. Junk doesn't have a black fastland, so it takes more damage from its manabase, making it more vunrable to burn.
With the second reason eliminated, Junk could probably rise above Jund, as Junk is much better at grinding. If Abzan became the deck to beat, Eternal Scourge and Stormbreath Dragon would become the finishers of choice.