The deck can be played quite well without the moxes. I use four mishra's bauble and they work great as a replacement, the additional draw is in my opinion better since I never need the mana and baubles aren't legendary.
I also play an 18th land though, a basic island.
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Oct 22, 2017guntius posted a message on SCG Article: Our format is too thicc for them to handle.I like modern because I can play several diffrent decks some years apart and go back to them, standard I can't. Standard sometimes makes me play a set/sets I don't like whereas modern isn't affected by the seasonal flavor and always finds a few cards in every set worth playing without me having to go all in on the new sets.Posted in: Modern
Standard is hard for younger people with limited money to get into, they don't have the money to buy all the cards FAST enough, for most it's get one or two of the most powerful cards and that's all they'll ever get before it rotates. Modern they see long term investment and I think that is a bigger draw to them, and they are the future.
I watched this kid in three years build his eldrazi deck from nothing to a tier deck starting with his first thoughtknot, he didn't have money to get into standard but he had enough to buy a pack here and there and trade into what he could, ultimately he wouldn't have ever made a good standard deck at his price point in a timely fashion to play it before it rotated out. But a modern eldrazi tron deck, he was able to buy a piece here and there with minimal fear and now he's turned into such a good player that I think he could place well at a pro tournament.
If he was stuck with standard and the cost combined with the timeframe to get the cards, he probably wouldn't even still be playing magic.
Idk, I think standard is ok for those that have deeper pockets, modern I feel you get more time out of your investment.
I think modern is more challenging because of its diversity and I prefer it as my format of choice because of that, keeps me on my toes and is never boring.
Standard I can memorize all the decks because all the top ones can be counted on one hand, gets boring fast.
Oct 18, 2017Problem I have with logic knot is delve, same reason I'm trying to stay away from murderous cut, I can only delve so much while still leaving myself snapcaster and tasigur targets.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
I'll try a few flaying tendrils and I've already added two echoing truth.
The champion I'm not big on, I tried bloodghast and it wasn't very good, I don't have Bob or bitterblossom, I tried relentless dead and he's a bad chump blocker.Titi wasn't to good either.
I feel the champions need to be some form of creature, I was going to try a couple phantasmal image tonight.
I'm also going to retry relic and spellbomb since I've modified the deck considerably since I last tried them. Leyline on an opener is so good though.
As far as lily goes, I have 8 rack and I traded all of my lily's away, I don't like her much, the only ones I have left are the bad ones.
I want to try a few void snare too I think, for sanctity and orbs.
As you can see I'm still feeling the deck out, I really like it and I think it has legs, delver beats is a real thing and a single delver has won many games.
Oct 18, 2017guntius posted a message on Underworld dreams-enough tools to make it work in modern?I've played my list a few times and it's slow but it can get there, as with any turns deck it's tough against any fast decks. I've also been trying dark deal in replacement of days since days ends the turn and voids dreams ability.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
Basically there is a UR version running wheel of fate that I'm trying to run similar but with UB instead.
Biggest problem I have is making them draw enough cards to kill them without fizzling. A single dreams or unraveler isn't enough without snapcaster beats.
I could see getting rid of unraveler though as its sat in my hand many times and never got played.
Oct 18, 2017Creeping tar pit I'll try one. The mana base I like right now though, all the fetches enable push and helps fuel delve, thats my reasoning for so many. That and I'm coming off playing grixis shadow.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
I have two hurkyl's recall I can add, I wonder if that and rejection is to much artifact hate with all the other spot removal I have.
Bloodsoaked champion is a new addition as well as eternal scourge, champion I can play out if I thought scour it and have no delve creatures. Scourge is great to delve away and re-play. Neither have been tested much, I like the scourge better but I only have the one copy right now. I could see two MB and cutting the champions.
Counters I should have, been thinking hard counters over cards like remand,even though I like remand alot.
Have an issue with leyline of sanctity and the orbs though, cyclonic rift would allow me to bounce it then remove it via had disruption but I'll never be able to cast it for its overload cost.
Early frost and downpour are debatable, they seem lack luster on paper but both have had instances where they won me the game. I could throw them in the side for MB counters I guess.
Battle was a last minute decision for life gain and primarily for the burn MU, I'm not partial to it.
Ashiok I just traded away sadly before I built this deck, and I would love to get my hands on Bob but I currently don't have any or know anyone that does.
I have one engineered explosives and a few ratchet bomb I could use for additional removal. No Damnation.
Thanks for the great feedback! I really appreciate getting some help with this.
Oct 17, 2017I would like dismember, I don't have any, at least that I can find. I don't know how much I want more life loss though.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
Send to sleep is a good idea, I don't think I've seen it before. I'll try it in replacement.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Oct 16, 2017Here's the UB version I've been trying lately that isn't too weird.Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
Downpour has been amazing! Combined with early frost it's almost a guarantee to get there. Fizzling is another story.
Kami is what I switch for TitI after SB usually.
I've kept the mana cost low so I can play multiple spells per turn and to be able to use snapcaster frequently. It's more interaction but it takes longer to win either through snapcaster beats or Jace mill. Makes fizzling easier to deal with though since usually my hand is full of disruption.
Oct 16, 2017Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
I'm stuck with SB options. Any suggestions?
2 Ceremonious rejection or 2 hurkyl's recall for affinity?
I'm using the leylines so should I use 2 relic of progenitus as well?
Should I have more spot removal with 2 go for the throat or add 2 extirpate?
Mass removal with ratchet bomb maybe? A friend has engineered explosives I could possibly trade for.
Any thoughts you have on MB would be great too.
Oct 15, 2017guntius posted a message on Underworld dreams-enough tools to make it work in modern?Ive been brewing a taking turns deck that uses underworld dreams as its win con. It's still rough but it's coming together.Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
Here's where I'm currently at.
I haven't tried kami yet, or master of the feast, feast I'm really interested in, I'll try it.
Skullcage is an option but I liked unraveler better since it can swing.
Oct 15, 2017Been quite awhile since I've been on here.I've currently been brewing a UB version using underworld dreams and fate unraveler as the wincon. I figure if I'm going to keep the opponent drawing cards then I might as well punish them for it. Dark deal and ancestral vision work very well with dreams and unraveler.Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
It's an odd deck to pilot, I'd like to smooth it out a bit. I'll post it soon, ive got a few slots I haven't found a home for anything, sideboard is ok but could use some fresh ideas. Mana base is atrocious. Lol
Edit: pulled the deck out. Here's the list.
I think brutality should be mainboard, I don't know what to cut though.
I was looking at master of the feast or laboratory maniac as options too.
Sideboard is a cards to try board mainly. Leylines are really good, how to fit them MB idk, same for relic.
The discard I'm not really feeling fits here. To many times I wished it was something else when I had it.
What do you think? Any suggestions? Particularly early interactions.
Edit: days didn't work, had to use dark deal instead.
Aug 27, 2017DennisD90, it was a tron list as I said previously.Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
Karn doesn't ultimate with season, ugin does.
Hangarback and ballista are much stronger with season. Both can deal with pesky flyers. Hangarback needs to be beast within-ed or something though.
Nyxthos isn't bad. Better with finks and witness MB.
It was pretty good for a quick throw together, I'll tinker with it a bit more. Like I said previously, I liked how similar Curd Bros deck was to my tron brew which also uses walkers but with the addition of season.
Aug 26, 2017Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
So this was the the first draft. Won all the games I played, the only tier deck though was boros burn which I beat 2-0. I like it. I'll work on it a bit more,
I was thinking duskwatch recruiter might be good.
After getting hit by goblin guide so much I'm also considering courser of kruphix for the free lands. Extraplanar lens and the snow lands is another way to ramp in case the mana dorks get picked off.
Sideboard is mainly spare cards to try. I think ooze should be considered too.
Aug 25, 2017Hey I can log in again!lol.(forgot password) So... Doubling Season, 3 is better than four(imo), I've been siding out one usually g2-3 on top of that. This is what I found in a homebrew of mine, Curd Bros, you and I were both on solitaire mode on mtgo the other day when I was doing some goldfishing before playing a few games with it.Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
I call it Tron Season, doubling season, hangarback, ballista, wurmcoil engine, thragtusk and ugin. Ultimating Ugin the turn it comes out is in most cases a scoop. I use tron lands and BoP as well as the usual maps and sylvan scrying. It's done very well.
I like where your going with yours, I'm going to try swapping the maps and sylvans for dorks and drop some shrines in to replace the tron lands. I'll add in garruk and nissa to start. Have you tried hangarback? It's very good with season as well as ballista of course. I think your dork/devotion idea might work better for me than the tron lands and doesn't limit me to colorless so much.
I'd post my list but it's not devotion or pact or T&N. I will write one up shortly after I make a few (devotion) changes, cant play any games with it till kids are in bed though.
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