You mean, sacrifice ~ unless you exile an enchantment (target is so unnecessary here...)? Anyway, I think this needs to at least enter tapped, because if you manage to get something big cheaply enough, this can become a scary mana burst.
Next
Library Of Phantoms
Land (R)
Whenever Library Of Phantoms becomes untapped, create a 0/1 colorless Illusion creature token. It has "This creature can't attack or block". T: Add C X, T, sacrifice X Illusions: Scry X.
At first I thought: Well, that's quite a drawback, but then I realize that among other things, this guy prevents you from decking out because you never draw.
It's been a very long while since that thread, and now with our return to Ravnica once again, we now have many new planeswalkers who haven't been 'assigned' guilds yet. And such, I shall so-called revive this thread (as I do not wish to repeat any planewalkers who have been mentioned in the previous thread unless there has been a significant shift)
Again, regarding this shoehorning, this sentence is important to the discussion:
A common misconception is confusing color combination with the guilds. Even MaRo has said that the guilds aren't the definitive combination of those colors.
Also, for now, I'll focus on planeswalkers, ancient or not, who have been seen in a card, although not necessarily as a planeswalker card (This exception applies mostly only to Azor). Also, I think I'll skip a few names if I feel they just kinda exists just because (example, Estrid and Aminatou), but if you'd like to include them in your opinion, go ahead.
With that said, let's begin
Angrath - He is not someone who breaks stuffs for no reasons, so Rakdos is not his guild. My verdict is more Gruul, due to the fact that he very much enjoys freedom. Arlinn Kord - She feels more Boros to me, since she is, if I remember right, fighting for the Innistrad humans, not to mention that she was a cathar or something, I think? Ashiok - Dimir, if because they love being manipulative and nasty. Azor - Ummm, what's his name again? Daretti - I need to read more about him, but his interest in artifices probably makes him an Izzet. Dovin Baan - He is a full-on Azorius, no need to argue about that Freyalise - I'm not sure, Selesnya? Gruul? I suck at really, really old lores, so maybe someone can help me on this? Huatli - Hmm..... she starts off as a soldier of her empire (soldier, as in, a militant who answers to a higher order), which makes her Boros, but now that she's probably a bit of a freelancer.... still Boros? Jaya Ballard - Okay, no clue. Gruul does value freedom, but Jaya's definitely not the "Crush them" kind of lady, so maybe not. Still, I feel like that's the closest compared to the other guilds. Karn - He kinda strikes me as an Azorius, but I can't think of a good explanation why. I need to read more about him, I guess. Kaya - Given her job, I think she's more of a Dimir. Windgrace - A Gruul, perhaps? He does kinda hate artificial stuffs... Nahiri - Early on, I think she fits the Selesnya owing to the fact that she cares about her homeland. Her Harbinger mode... well, Boros seems fitting, what's with their idea of justice and whatever. Narset - Hmmm... her pursuit of knowledge should make her an Izzet, even if she doesn't play with explodey kungfu (as far as I know XD) Ob Nixilis - Schemer, destroyer... I think this guy can't be anything other than Dimir, although his desire for power may give hints of Orzhov too, unless you think I'm crazy thinking about that. Saheeli Rai - Funnily enough, I don't think she fits the Izzet perfectly. She seems more like a perfectionism artist or something, which makes me think she's probably more of a Simic. Samut - No, she's not nature-freak enough to be Gruul. Her desire for turth and all that probably makes her more of a Boros. Teferi - Hmmm... if I conclude correctly that he's a flighty supermage, he can't be an Azorius. I think he's probably more of an Izzet, but I may be way way off. Ugin - I'm voting for Azorius, due to his preference to seeing things at large and planning things for the long run. Xenagos - He's green only because satyrs are nature spirits, sort of. Heck, given that satyrs are revelers, they are Rakdos, Xenagos included, though his megalomania might put him somewhere else. But I still think he's more Rakdos since he at least used to be a party-goer.
Best card ever That's one fancy pet to have if you're a Golgari (I mean, hey, if you're down there, there's no risk of falling down a few storeys, right? XD)
Hmm..... While the drawback can be a bit pesky, the fact is that this guy can easily reach 4 damage per turn for someone that costs a measly 2 mana, even if Evolving him may be a bit tricky. I may be worrying too much though, but anyway I believe the stat may need to go down.
Randomly making an epic card, if it could work.
Nirezatel, Perfector Extraordinaire4WWUU
Legendary Creature - Dragon Illusion
Flying
When you cast Nirezatel, Perfector Extraordinaire, shuffle all nonland permanents and cards in all players' hands into their owners' libraries, then each player reveals his or her deck. For each player, you choose five nonland permanent cards in that player's deck that can be put onto the battlefield, then that player puts the chosen cards onto the battlefield under his or her control, shuffles his or her deck, and draws five cards. "Everything is exactly as how I see it: Perfect."
6/6
So essentially this guy cannot take combat damage by blocking? Well... neat, I guess, possibly a bit too powerful though even if you do eat face damage. Otherwise, no issue.
Just a random Un card.
Three-Foot Avenger3W
Creature - Dwarf Soldier (U)
Double strike
Whenever a creature you control attacks a player taller than you, that creature gains Skulk until end of turn. "The taller they are, the easier it is to get to their weak points!"
1/3
@magac: Maybe you should read the stories before assuming too much. Bolas "cared" about Ugin in one of the most umempathetic and self-centered ways possible. The quote in questiom does in no way make his early life a "sob story". It's not like he fell into deep depression after Ugin left and got on his villainous path because of that. It simply describes a moment in which he was in kind of a pinch (and not a full-grown dragon yet) and wished his brother was still there, but not for emotional support or anything, but basically so Bolas could have another weapon in his arsenal to further his plans. They are twins, so maybe there was some form of genuine care deep within Bolas, but as far as we have seen, it was twisted by Bolas's intentions and view of the world at a pretty early stage in his life.
Thanks for the feedback. I know I am very, very unfair to judge based on spoiler snippets alone, but if what I see in spoilers just doesn't appeal to me at all, I can't be bothered to read the full story to see the actual description.
And in Bolas' case, it wasn't Ugin that gave me the "sob story" impression; it's Merrevia Sal. Basically from what little I bothered to read, she simply exists as an excuse to give Bolas some sympathetic motives, but the relative suddenness of her introduction (about as sudden as the reveal that Ugin is now Bolas' twin instead of a random someone), then being topped off by her sudden removal from the lore, makes it look more like a pathetic attempt by Wizards to fish for sympathy, and that's where they rub me off the very, very wrong way.
(sidenote: I find it hilarious that we can chop off three letters from sympathetic to get pathetic. Pretty fitting in this situation :XD:)
Nicol is a consummate sociopath. That he has anyone's sympathy is mindboggling.
While I don't fully agree with what you said (not because I think you're wrong, but only because I have lost interest in discussing too much about it), sympathy for characters is something Wizards have really screwed up about when it comes to characterizing.
I know I sound confusing, but between Angrath and Bolas in M19, I kinda get the feeling that Wizards think that for any character to be likeable to fans, they must have some sort of sob story background to fish for sympathy. I mean like, ugh, did they really have to decide that Angrath had family back home and that he had not seen them for fourteen. frikkin. years? And now, it almost seems to me that they give some teary excuses to make Bolas "not-too-vile" by giving him family that he used to care about (I only read the spoilers, but that alone is enough to make me puke...). I mean, really?
Wizards, please. You have BADLY disappointed me by failing HORRIBLY in making ancient characters that actually do feel ancient, and now you think that a character can never be liked by fans if they don't have these so-called TRAGIC history. Please. One lesson you MUST understand, Wizards, is that a character does NOT need excessively melodramatic past to be likeable, and doing this to BOLAS of all people just pretty much ruins my interest in Magic story anymore....... So if you're still a fan of these sob stories, stop.
Necrarchy Hellkite2BR
Creature - Zombie Dragon (M)
Flying, Trample, Haste
If an opponent has 0 or less life, that player wins the game instead. 2: Necrarchy Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn. Any player may activate this ability. "The dead is a kingdom worth ruling."
7/5
Nastier than Persecutor since it has Haste and firebreathing, but if you screw up and kill someone when this is on board, you lose. Comments?
EDIT:
Necrarchy Hellkite2BR
Creature - Zombie Dragon (M)
Flying, Trample
If an opponent has 0 or less life, that player wins the game instead. 2: Necrarchy Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn. Any player may activate this ability. "The dead is a kingdom worth ruling."
7/6
Hmmm.... well, since it punishes only nonbasics, it's good. Pretty strong that it brutally punishes things like storage lands and Cabal Coffers, oh, and not forgetting the Karoos, but aside from those examples this should be doable.
Some random Un card
Eloquence War4RR
Enchantment (R)
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose two target creatures. If the flavor texts of those creatures share one or more words, those creatures fight each other. "You have no business in saying the word blood, vile pest!"
- Falkenrath Aristocrat, to Eyeblight Assassin
Ihsan is intereting, but the counter-giving ability may need to be more expensive... though I may be wrong; He's only protected from white, which doesn't save him from all manners of Pyroclasms and whatever. The offset of losing that autopump once he gets up is cute; could work, for sure.
I hope this doesn't cause infinites.
Lonely Companionship3UU
Enchantment (R)
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if you control exactly one creature, create a token that is a copy of that creature, except that it is not legendary. "I wish there was someone with me around."
Next
Library Of Phantoms
Land (R)
Whenever Library Of Phantoms becomes untapped, create a 0/1 colorless Illusion creature token. It has "This creature can't attack or block".
T: Add C
X, T, sacrifice X Illusions: Scry X.
Too weak?
But then again, who cares about him?
It's been a very long while since that thread, and now with our return to Ravnica once again, we now have many new planeswalkers who haven't been 'assigned' guilds yet. And such, I shall so-called revive this thread (as I do not wish to repeat any planewalkers who have been mentioned in the previous thread unless there has been a significant shift)
Again, regarding this shoehorning, this sentence is important to the discussion:
A common misconception is confusing color combination with the guilds. Even MaRo has said that the guilds aren't the definitive combination of those colors.
Also, for now, I'll focus on planeswalkers, ancient or not, who have been seen in a card, although not necessarily as a planeswalker card (This exception applies mostly only to Azor). Also, I think I'll skip a few names if I feel they just kinda exists just because (example, Estrid and Aminatou), but if you'd like to include them in your opinion, go ahead.
With that said, let's begin
Angrath - He is not someone who breaks stuffs for no reasons, so Rakdos is not his guild. My verdict is more Gruul, due to the fact that he very much enjoys freedom.
Arlinn Kord - She feels more Boros to me, since she is, if I remember right, fighting for the Innistrad humans, not to mention that she was a cathar or something, I think?
Ashiok - Dimir, if because they love being manipulative and nasty.
Azor - Ummm, what's his name again?
Daretti - I need to read more about him, but his interest in artifices probably makes him an Izzet.
Dovin Baan - He is a full-on Azorius, no need to argue about that
Freyalise - I'm not sure, Selesnya? Gruul? I suck at really, really old lores, so maybe someone can help me on this?
Huatli - Hmm..... she starts off as a soldier of her empire (soldier, as in, a militant who answers to a higher order), which makes her Boros, but now that she's probably a bit of a freelancer.... still Boros?
Jaya Ballard - Okay, no clue. Gruul does value freedom, but Jaya's definitely not the "Crush them" kind of lady, so maybe not. Still, I feel like that's the closest compared to the other guilds.
Karn - He kinda strikes me as an Azorius, but I can't think of a good explanation why. I need to read more about him, I guess.
Kaya - Given her job, I think she's more of a Dimir.
Windgrace - A Gruul, perhaps? He does kinda hate artificial stuffs...
Nahiri - Early on, I think she fits the Selesnya owing to the fact that she cares about her homeland. Her Harbinger mode... well, Boros seems fitting, what's with their idea of justice and whatever.
Narset - Hmmm... her pursuit of knowledge should make her an Izzet, even if she doesn't play with explodey kungfu (as far as I know XD)
Ob Nixilis - Schemer, destroyer... I think this guy can't be anything other than Dimir, although his desire for power may give hints of Orzhov too, unless you think I'm crazy thinking about that.
Saheeli Rai - Funnily enough, I don't think she fits the Izzet perfectly. She seems more like a perfectionism artist or something, which makes me think she's probably more of a Simic.
Samut - No, she's not nature-freak enough to be Gruul. Her desire for turth and all that probably makes her more of a Boros.
Teferi - Hmmm... if I conclude correctly that he's a flighty supermage, he can't be an Azorius. I think he's probably more of an Izzet, but I may be way way off.
Ugin - I'm voting for Azorius, due to his preference to seeing things at large and planning things for the long run.
Xenagos - He's green only because satyrs are nature spirits, sort of. Heck, given that satyrs are revelers, they are Rakdos, Xenagos included, though his megalomania might put him somewhere else. But I still think he's more Rakdos since he at least used to be a party-goer.
There. Feel free to drop your opinions
Randomly making an epic card, if it could work.
Nirezatel, Perfector Extraordinaire 4WWUU
Legendary Creature - Dragon Illusion
Flying
When you cast Nirezatel, Perfector Extraordinaire, shuffle all nonland permanents and cards in all players' hands into their owners' libraries, then each player reveals his or her deck. For each player, you choose five nonland permanent cards in that player's deck that can be put onto the battlefield, then that player puts the chosen cards onto the battlefield under his or her control, shuffles his or her deck, and draws five cards.
"Everything is exactly as how I see it: Perfect."
6/6
Just a random Un card.
Three-Foot Avenger 3W
Creature - Dwarf Soldier (U)
Double strike
Whenever a creature you control attacks a player taller than you, that creature gains Skulk until end of turn.
"The taller they are, the easier it is to get to their weak points!"
1/3
Yeah, I know the flavor text is cheap
Thanks for the feedback. I know I am very, very unfair to judge based on spoiler snippets alone, but if what I see in spoilers just doesn't appeal to me at all, I can't be bothered to read the full story to see the actual description.
And in Bolas' case, it wasn't Ugin that gave me the "sob story" impression; it's Merrevia Sal. Basically from what little I bothered to read, she simply exists as an excuse to give Bolas some sympathetic motives, but the relative suddenness of her introduction (about as sudden as the reveal that Ugin is now Bolas' twin instead of a random someone), then being topped off by her sudden removal from the lore, makes it look more like a pathetic attempt by Wizards to fish for sympathy, and that's where they rub me off the very, very wrong way.
(sidenote: I find it hilarious that we can chop off three letters from sympathetic to get pathetic. Pretty fitting in this situation :XD:)
While I don't fully agree with what you said (not because I think you're wrong, but only because I have lost interest in discussing too much about it), sympathy for characters is something Wizards have really screwed up about when it comes to characterizing.
I know I sound confusing, but between Angrath and Bolas in M19, I kinda get the feeling that Wizards think that for any character to be likeable to fans, they must have some sort of sob story background to fish for sympathy. I mean like, ugh, did they really have to decide that Angrath had family back home and that he had not seen them for fourteen. frikkin. years? And now, it almost seems to me that they give some teary excuses to make Bolas "not-too-vile" by giving him family that he used to care about (I only read the spoilers, but that alone is enough to make me puke...). I mean, really?
Wizards, please. You have BADLY disappointed me by failing HORRIBLY in making ancient characters that actually do feel ancient, and now you think that a character can never be liked by fans if they don't have these so-called TRAGIC history. Please. One lesson you MUST understand, Wizards, is that a character does NOT need excessively melodramatic past to be likeable, and doing this to BOLAS of all people just pretty much ruins my interest in Magic story anymore....... So if you're still a fan of these sob stories, stop.
A variant from Abyssal Persecutor
Necrarchy Hellkite 2BR
Creature - Zombie Dragon (M)
Flying, Trample, Haste
If an opponent has 0 or less life, that player wins the game instead.
2: Necrarchy Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn. Any player may activate this ability.
"The dead is a kingdom worth ruling."
7/5
Nastier than Persecutor since it has Haste and firebreathing, but if you screw up and kill someone when this is on board, you lose. Comments?
EDIT:
Necrarchy Hellkite 2BR
Creature - Zombie Dragon (M)
Flying, Trample
If an opponent has 0 or less life, that player wins the game instead.
2: Necrarchy Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn. Any player may activate this ability.
"The dead is a kingdom worth ruling."
7/6
Next
Tenacity Of Expanses 3GW
Enchantment (R)
Domain - Creatures you control get +0/+1 for each basic land types among lands you control.
Comments?
EDIT:
Tenacity Of Expanses 2GW
Enchantment (R)
Domain - Creatures you control get +0/+1 for each basic land types among lands you control.
Some random Un card
Eloquence War 4RR
Enchantment (R)
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose two target creatures. If the flavor texts of those creatures share one or more words, those creatures fight each other.
"You have no business in saying the word blood, vile pest!"
- Falkenrath Aristocrat, to Eyeblight Assassin
I hope this doesn't cause infinites.
Lonely Companionship 3UU
Enchantment (R)
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if you control exactly one creature, create a token that is a copy of that creature, except that it is not legendary.
"I wish there was someone with me around."
Comments?