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    posted a message on What's the Best Story to Start for the New Walkers
    I agree with Jay that the Origins stories are the place to start, along with some of the novels. There's also three or four "Interim" stories that aren't in either the official Origins set or the official BFZ set. They're excellent characterizations, and kind of the early beginnings of the Gatewatch.

    The BFZ stories are worth reading, in that they really set everything up. Both them and INnistrad are overall light on real character development for the Gatewatch (although there are some excellent moments for Chandra and Nissa in BFZ, and Liliana in SOI). Then with Homesick, which kicks off Kaladesh, things really get into gear.


    EDIT: A couple more things here. The first is that there were several comics that came out during the early run of Planeswalkers that have some very good stories, particularily involving Garruk's and Elspeth's origins, and what sets up the release of the Eldrazi in the Eye of Ugin. (Journey to the Eye, Part 1 in particular is hilarious... poor Chandra).

    I also want to mention that while the Shadows of Innistrad story doesn't really develop anyone on the Gatewatch outside of Liliana, there is EXCELLENT development for both Nahiri and Sorin, particularily in the details of their falling out, which is rather heartbreaking.
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    posted a message on What's the point in Bolas creating the Eternals?
    Quote from NGW »
    An army of planeswalkers I get, those can go with him from plane to plane. But creating an army on a plane he is already the one above all on?


    The Planar Bridge from Kaladesh.

    All the pieces are starting to come together now.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Teysa_Karlov »
    Quote from Pollaski »
    On a more serious note, this story reminded me so much of "I Am Avacyn." Corrupted, suppodedly indestructable protective entity is only doing what they believe is the right thing, but only at the end do they realize the truth of themselves and their corruption, and die mournful and lamenting.

    Which then is followed by everyone else watching at first going "what just happened" followed by a very large "OH ****"

    And you have to feel sorry for all the remaining mortals (which, as was pointed out in the first story, are mostly children who were too young to take the Trials. The Hour of Revelation consists of paradise being revealed as a wasteland, a demon flying out, and the river turning to blood; while the Hour of Glory sees three monstrous, evil gods emerge and start killing your own gods off. Now the Hour of Glory starts with a zillion locusts showing up to eat the Hekma.

    And the worst thing is, everything is exactly as foretold in the Prophecy of Hours... just not in the way everyone had thought.


    I like to think Bolas left clues in the Prophecy that someone could figure out what he's up to. It would be a very Bolas thing to do for someone to find out what is happening, try to warn others only for the brainwashed Gods and followers to ignore them, only to find the stranger was right at the very end.

    Bolas: "Congrats. You figured out my plan. You have no hope of stopping it. Finding out means less than nothing. But at least you know."

    Very much an "Evil Scientist" strategy.


    That's pretty much what Samut did.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    On a more serious note, this story reminded me so much of "I Am Avacyn." Corrupted, suppodedly indestructable protective entity is only doing what they believe is the right thing, but only at the end do they realize the truth of themselves and their corruption, and die mournful and lamenting.

    Which then is followed by everyone else watching at first going "what just happened" followed by a very large "OH ****"

    And you have to feel sorry for all the remaining mortals (which, as was pointed out in the first story, are mostly children who were too young to take the Trials. The Hour of Revelation consists of paradise being revealed as a wasteland, a demon flying out, and the river turning to blood; while the Hour of Glory sees three monstrous, evil gods emerge and start killing your own gods off. Now the Hour of Glory starts with a zillion locusts showing up to eat the Hekma.

    And the worst thing is, everything is exactly as foretold in the Prophecy of Hours... just not in the way everyone had thought.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Flisch »
    Gosh I hope so. That's the least they could do for the poor neglected guy.

    Also, he's green and apparently that's what oasis-free Amonkhet needs to regrow (no pun intended).


    I think when Kruphix7 said all of them, he meant all of them. Defiant Khenra and the Desert cycle are particularly indicative of this.

    At least the pics in RedGauntlet's post heavily imply that Rhonas will die, but it's sad that his own "sibling" did the deed.


    Quote from Pollaski »
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    RIP Rhonas


    Maybe he just got knocked out?


    How likely do you think that is?


    BOOM. Was 100% right. Because he got back up, denounced the God-Pharaoh, threw his staff, and THEN died.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Flisch »
    I also just realized that it works well with their associated bugs. The scoprion kills, the locust swarm tears down and invites more plagues (zombies) into the city while the scarab (dung beetle) 'recycles' dead matter into something usable.


    This is an interesting parallel to the Eldrazi titans and their apparent purposes.


    Yeah, the two groups have their similarities, but unfortunately for the multiverse, the Gatewatch burninated two of the titans.

    Speaking of purpose, what are the corrupted Gods even going to do after Bolas is done with Amonkhet?


    Evil god frat party, duh.

    Why you think Razaketh turned the river to blood?
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Well, damn. Oketra buys it. Looks like all the "good" gods are going to be snuffed.

    Although I think this might be what makes Samut spark.



    Also, this means Nicol Bolas is going to have TEN full cards dedicated to him kicking the crap out of some Legendary character.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Gutterstorm »
    I need to get on that Bolas work out plan. If that's Rhonas he would barely stand past the Scorpion God's knee. I mean it wouldnt be the first one of these whose art made no sense but it seems unlikely that they would show one the the corrupted gods killing some random Naga.


    Before you get on that work-out plan, I'd suggest reading the fine-print. I think it says something about getting your mind blanked.


    Totally worth it.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Etherium Sage »
    Quote from Flisch »
    Gosh I hope so. That's the least they could do for the poor neglected guy.

    Also, he's green and apparently that's what oasis-free Amonkhet needs to regrow (no pun intended).


    I think when Kruphix7 said all of them, he meant all of them.

    At least the pics in RedGauntlet's post heavily imply that Rhonas will die, but it's sad that his own "sibling" did the deed.


    Quote from Pollaski »
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    RIP Rhonas


    Maybe he just got knocked out?


    How likely do you think that is?


    Like I edited, not very considering its Diabolic Edict Frown
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from Mangod »
    Quote from Pollaski »
    So Chandra's Defeat does exist... it shows her literally in the palm of Bolas' hand.



    The flavortext for that one is just... d**kish.

    "Fire? Is that your only trick, Chandra?"

    Seems like Hour of Devastation will be our "Breaking of the Fellowship".


    They're all pretty d**kish. I think Nissa's top billing though, because he's basically suggesting this whole world killing thing is kinda a hobby.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    RIP Rhonas


    Maybe he just got knocked out?

    EDIT: NOPE. That's Diabolic Edict RIP Rhonas.
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    posted a message on Branching Out the Gatewatch
    Quote from echelon_house »
    Personally, I've always seen Gideon as RW. During the first battle of Sea Gate he was incredibly reckless and just charged in without a plan, causing mass loss of life. He's very passionate about protecting the people he cares about and acts on his gut. Mechanically, I could easily see him start doing some Reflect Damage effects, redirecting damage to attacking creatures and the like, and he's already goaded creatures before.


    Its also worth noting that Gideon's Amonkhet Planeswalker deck was red/white. Nissa's Kaladesh PW deck was green/blue, which she in fact branched into officially in Amonkhet, so it could be hints. Chandra's PW deck was also Red/White in Kaladesh, while Liliana's was Black/Green in Amonkhet.

    IN the end though, I was more entertaining the idea that the Gatewatch would expand into two colors at all, not necessarily predicting which ones. It sounds like its definitely a possiblity.
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    posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    I wonder if it's possible that Gatewatch save Amonkhet, but are defeated themselves (as in, Bolas in his rage sends them broken for vengeance in foiling his plans)?

    I was surprised Razaketh knew about the contracts of the other demons, considering Bolas told Lilliana not to mention the other demons while brokering her deals. Granted it seemed Kothophed knew of the other anyway when she signed with him, so IDK.


    Well her contract tatoos kinda gave it away.
    How did the demons know of one another if they can't planeswalk?
    I doubt that they gather intel using planeswalking minions.


    Didn't Bolas broker the deal? He probably mentioned there were three other demons in on it when he pitched it to them.
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    posted a message on Branching Out the Gatewatch
    Quote from SiReNz_wAiL »
    Any reason why you thought just of enemy pairs instead of an ally for one? Gideon could always use more of that giant green growth. Why wouldn't Jace go more into white's order while he's the law of a plane?


    Mostly because Nissa went into enemy.

    BUt this makes sense too.

    Gideon into Green to become stronger.
    Nissa into Red because that's the other big elemental color
    Chandra into black for more destruction, and highlighting her recklessness.
    Liliana into Blue for the mental manipulation.
    Jace into white cause he's DA LAW.

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    posted a message on Branching Out the Gatewatch
    So looking at the new Hours cards, I had a thought, based mainly off the flavor text of Chandra's Defeat.

    Bolas isn't just taunting here, he's pretty much dead on. Chandra is pretty much a one trick pony as far as storyline goes. Burn things. Burn more things. And then burn even more things. When she loses her fire's effectiveness (as she did vs. Baral) she's utterly screwed. So maybe this triggers Chandra expanding her magical horizons a bit, branching out into another color. And then I realized that Nissa already HAS branched out, going simic in the next set.

    So maybe this is a portent that every single member of the Gatewatch is going to branch out into another,likely opposing color?

    Nissa's already in blue.

    I can see Jace going into red, and using that color's emotional manipulation a bit.

    I can see Chandra going into white, and taking advantage of either White's exiling mechanic, or its "Holy Fire" tendencies (damage to attackers, revenge damage, etc)

    Liliana could very well go into Green, and add a golgari-ish "Cycle of life" element about her.

    Which would leave Gideon going into black... which is the hardest one I see happening. Or maybe Gideon stubbornly refuses to branch out, which eventually leads to his death?

    Anyways, just a thought.
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