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  • posted a message on Spring and Summer Set: Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation
    I want my Umezawa's Jitte modern playable. I got it in that old rats starter deck that they had at the time and when I think on it, it really feels surreal that it's now one of the most powerful cards in magic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on SCG Open Richmond - Standard - 1/28-29
    It looks like the meta shifted as we all were predicting. It seems like GB delirium has evolved into a controlling build and I'm not sure where saheeli is going. Verdurous Gearhulk just got the shaft again like what I was semi expecting, so glad I didn't pull the trigger on that one.
    Posted in: Standard Archives
  • posted a message on The Lands of Amonkhet
    Quote from idSurge »
    Oo I like that Nimbus Maze design, same with the River of Tears, just neat. I love lands though...


    I don't think they will do a River of Tears cycle because it's too inconsistent and probably a tad bit complex for most people to understand how to use well. Just about the only designs they have left to print are Horizon Canopy and Nimbus Maze. I'd love to see a filterland reprint and they will probably do one of those in a return to Lorwyn block, but they've been trying to move away from lands that don't have any kind of dependencies. If they do release a Nimbus Maze land cycle eldrazi players will be rejoicing.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on The Lands of Amonkhet
    The more I'm thinking on it I've got a really good feeling that they are not reprinting anything. We'll probably see a new type of land, as hard as that is to believe given they seem to have expended every possible avenue for lands these days. A Nimbus Maze land cycle seems more likely than filter lands or other kinds of lands that are native to the pre RtR lands followed by the enemy colored battle lands in Atlazan. That kind of motion feels like it would make the most sense going forward, as it provides a way to run three colors at a cost so as not to depower the mono and dual colored decks.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Post-Modern Frontier Format
    Quote from idSurge »
    Where is Frontier looking like its competitive with Standard? Nobody will play it here, its EDH or Standard, with the rest Modern. Frown


    Most of the LGS's in my area are slowly warming up to frontier and are now planning to run events on mondays. I'm not able to attend them due to my day Job and was hoping for a weekend time, though. I don't think they are replacing FNM standard yet with Frontier, but attendance has been drooping at my local store for it and even with the promise of these better cards most people are just shrugging because they don't like the feel of the sets in standard atm. On the upside, the people still playing are a lot less competitive so the game nights have been a lot more positive. No Rules lawyers or anything showing up or Tier 1 decks, though plenty of Tier 1 standard cards IN decks.

    I'm hoping wizards warms up to supporting the format, but after reading up some posts on MaRo, I got a feeling that wizards is going to start their next format with BFZ as the start point. He doesn't want fetches in the format they build, which basically kills any possibility of there being a reprint of Zendikar fetches in a standard set. Not exactly good news on that front for anyone playing modern, but then again he doesn't have the final say on what gets reprinted so we'll have to see. That leaves Frontier in an odd position with only half the fetchland cycle in it much like old modern did before Kahns block. I think that if fetches were banned from the format and the format extended to Theros then you have something closer to what MaRo may be envisioning.
    Posted in: Frontier
  • posted a message on [Primer] UW Spirits/Flash
    The primary reason to use Metallic Mimic in UW spirits is to take them out of range of Walking ballista. Depending on your LGS you may have a meta with a lot of Ballista or a lack of it, but the last tour basically had that card all over the place because so many people were running GB delirium token midrange/aggro decks. My own advice is if anyone is going to the pro-tour or had a past meta with GB delirium counter decks running rampant, build your deck around fighting the decks that are going to fight the GB Delirium counters decks and Saheeli decks. If your meta happens to be one step behind the pro-tour and is made up of people who rely on the interwebz, then you probably want to be the deck that kills GB Delirium Counters and Saheeli. That and possibly really aggressive WR artifact equipment rush aggro decks because without copter that build is far more powerful than the vehicles build that was originally around in Kaladesh.
    Posted in: Standard Archives
  • posted a message on Spring and Summer Set: Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation
    Quote from ArbitersHeir »
    Just Remember Nicol Bolas doesn't show interest in a plane unless it is a massive mana source or houses something that could further his own power and agenda. Either way I hope Bolas rips the gatewatch apart and uses the gods to do it.


    Well, if they go that route than it feels almost like they are trying a Zendikar 2.0 in that they have a plane that houses some kind of ancient power / evil, a force that seeks to foolishly try to use the power, and then mistakenly unleashes the apocalypse and nearly destroys an entire plane of existence doing so. Which, actually sort of makes sense for an egyptian set considering everyone probably remembers movies like The Mummy, where Imohtep is a vengeful all powerful undead abomination seeking to restore himself to life and take vengeance on the ancestors of the pharaoh that spited him.

    Nicol Bolas is powerful, but he isn't going to be able to stop something like Imhotep. That's a being that literally can bring about biblical level natural disasters, like turn the river red, rain frogs, conjure massive unyielding sandstorms, summon swarms of flesh eating Locusts, command an army of undead servants, and can basically steal the life of other beings by touch. Basically, smash an OP liliana together with Vengeful Pharaoh and Ugin, the spirit dragon. That's about him in card form.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Spring and Summer Set: Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation
    Quote from Colt47 »
    The vehicles felt like an experiment to make a safer alternative to equipment, but it sort of backfired. There's a reason that Heart of Kiran just isn't very good despite being the best two drop vehicle now that smuggler's copter got banned. The really good vehicle is Aethersphere Harvester, which fits a lot more roles than the airship and feels very much like Batterskull in the sky. In any case, I don't think vehicles are surviving post rotation outside of smugglers and maybe harvester / caravan. Sword of Fire and Ice is arguably the best piece of equipment that is modern legal and it only sees fringe play.


    Well the abundance of artifact hate certainly doesnt help to make any playable in modern (theres affinity, and anything that doesnt fit in affinity will struggle against the same hate).

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    Kolaghan's Command did almost single handily made all the artifacts unplayable trash , as they suddenly packed main-deck hate and just "cantrip" killed your artifact while doing whatever else they wanted to do with the spell in the first place.

    Abrupt Decay also is a catch-all for the good artifacts that cost 3 or less, which is almost any equipment.

    And Stoneforge Mystic being banned, certainly doesnt help to make any more expensive equipment playable.

    So yes, Modern is pretty much the most hostile environment for artifacts there is.


    I was actually thinking of frontier, but yeah they got Kolaghan's Command in the format which is always a good play when it comes down (at least that is how it felt playing against it).
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from idSurge »
    You're completely ignoring the power level of sets though, or random mechanics that are specific to a set.

    Or dropping cards of a wildly different power level into a set.

    It's not reinvention of the wheel, it's exploring different designs.

    I'd rather we got Anger of the Gods instead of Damnation or Wrath of God.
    Quote from idSurge »
    You're completely ignoring the power level of sets though, or random mechanics that are specific to a set.

    Or dropping cards of a wildly different power level into a set.

    It's not reinvention of the wheel, it's exploring different designs.

    I'd rather we got Anger of the Gods instead of Damnation or Wrath of God.


    I'm pretty sure that in a vacuum a like standard was Lightning Helix would have been fine during RtR. Swarmyard is definitely not a broken card and Hedron Crab would have been fine in BFZ and could have replaced one of the filler creatures.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from idSurge »
    Buckling, please. It's a random card with a cute interaction. It's not like it's a format staple.

    How would you propose you fix it? Some random ass however old bulk rare. Print on demand? Reprints of every set on a monthly schedule?

    This is actually part of what makes Modern amazing. You know what I had dropped on me in mtgo? Srams expertise, into breaking/entering into Ulamog on turn 2!

    Everyone, buy out split cards, they are going to spike now!

    :p


    Well, by not ignoring old cards that people liked or provide some interesting form of interaction and reprinting them like what the old core sets did. The failing of the design team over the last few years is their ignorance of the history of cards they already designed. There isn't a whole lot they can do about legendary creatures as they are kind of time and place specific other than print it in a commander product, but there are cards like Lightning Helix, Hedron Crab, Idyllic Tutor, Swarmyard, etc that would be fine in a standard set and they instead print things like Warleader's Helix? They spend too much time reinventing the wheel when they got a working one.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Spring and Summer Set: Amonkhet and Hour of Devastation
    The vehicles felt like an experiment to make a safer alternative to equipment, but it sort of backfired. There's a reason that Heart of Kiran just isn't very good despite being the best two drop vehicle now that smuggler's copter got banned. The really good vehicle is Aethersphere Harvester, which fits a lot more roles than the airship and feels very much like Batterskull in the sky. In any case, I don't think vehicles are surviving post rotation outside of smugglers and maybe harvester / caravan. Sword of Fire and Ice is arguably the best piece of equipment that is modern legal and it only sees fringe play.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Rare lands as a gift program for playing Standard between 13 Feb and 16 Apr
    Well, the main problem is that they didn't listen to the community on what people wanted to see reprinted and instead reprinted things that either people weren't even thinking about at the time or printing completely new cards that no one was asking for. Conspiracy 2 and eternal masters did provide reprintings that helped the secondary market a bit, but with modern being popular, people wanted more modern cards, not more legacy playables. That and they really could have reprinted more legacy staples in the commander decks and simply changed how they sold the decks to resolve the truename nemesis fiasco.

    Another problem they probably had no idea about is that the community into legacy and modern just don't crack packs. All those pack openings have to go through the limited / draft crowd outside of stores cracking boxes to sell singles, so when they printed so many sets so close together they oversaturated the market and people just ignored certain products. By the time they brought the Planechase anthology out as a VPN product people were already dealing with a re-release of eternal masters, which bombed the price on those well down from their original 250+ price tag.

    How can they fix Magic? Reprint the old cards that worked and that people love would be a good start. Something else would be to put more money into building places that are convenient, safe, and fun environments for players to actually get together at and possibly build more time friendly paper tournaments for older players on tighter time tables or with jobs.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Rare lands as a gift program for playing Standard between 13 Feb and 16 Apr
    I'm... confused.

    I see lots of people here who are angry. I see people who are frustrated that standard is getting more support while their format is ignored. I see people who feel somewhat vindicated(?) that this apparent "move of desperation" validates their their dim views on WotC's business practices. I see people who mourn for the halcyon days when these promos would be associated with giant money mythics. I can even see some people lamenting the general play direction that standard has taken.

    With that said... is anyone out there claiming that this program will make the game actively worse?

    I mean, the worst-case scenario I could see here is the risk of accidentally reinforcing bad behaviors if attendance picks up... and that's it.


    This is MTGS fool.

    People here don't play Magic, they netdeck and pat themselves on the back.

    It's all about feeling smart, not having fun or being good on this subforum.


    You aren't alone on feeling that some of the community here is a bit out of touch with the general public. Ultimately, MtG is a game much like World of Warcraft, as in the only thing that can kill it is itself. Unfortunately, I feel that is exactly what has been happening since probably the start of September 2016 after the massive number of sets that were released. My own opinion is that they had a complete management meltdown, poor communications with the player base, and have the greed monster at Wizards HQ to blame for their woes. To make matters worse, even though they realized the problem was happening, their company is so slow to react that they didn't get a statement out until the past month and due to how they handle their print runs, can't turn the ship around for at least 2 years as far as set printings go. They might be able help the situation if they set Modern masters 2017 down to a 150 msrp and print the hell out of it, but I don't think even that is going to restore faith in the game that they basically butchered.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mardu/RW Dwarf+Vehicle aggro
    I've been debating what the needle spires would be good for. GB tokens will probably kill it with Walking Ballista if they have it out and you really want to be going in fast and hard against them since they need a little time to build up. I'd say it can help against control decks that run Yahenni's Expertise. For mana fixing Spire of Industry is actually not bad in the deck since you'll likely have vehicles on the field to trigger the second ability with, though I wouldn't make that a 4 of in this style of deck.

    Also, Heart of Kiran is a flying Batterskull, basically. I'd actually have preferred lifelink instead of vigilance, but that might have made it too good. Man that is one weird vehicle.
    Posted in: Standard Archives
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from idSurge »
    How is it an issue? Obscure card from old small set interacts with new card, and is picked up by players with foresight and a desire to play said card. It increases in value as supply dwindles.

    There is issue here. Its not like Goyf who even with reprints is north of $100.


    The problem is that a card is only obscure for as long as it never sees the light of day in a promotional material. If someone high profile does a deck tech and includes it, that cards no longer obscure and if it is really old, it's going to have price spiking, especially from a pre-return to ravnica set with a smaller print run. Again, not something a lot of people can do anything about, but it's still a con and part of that whole "buckling under the weight of it's own history" issue modern has. Legacy has it way worse thanks to the reserved list, though.
    Posted in: Modern
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