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The World of Kamigawa
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    I do not like to force the mulligan to have 2 urborg in hand. playing four copies sometimes leave two in the initial hand. I think with 3 urborg is more than enough but only a reflection of me. if it serves you, I've been playing the deck for two years and many times I've lost games for double urborg or double mutavault.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    I hope it brings you good results. by the way, the fetch can go well. if you do mulligan and put something in the bottom of the library .. with fetch can change !! Hahaha !! Greetings . I am very scrupulous but it has its logic
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Quote from LucasDG »
    Hello, this week I'm Going to play the playoff of a tournament series that warrants invitations for a bigger tournament for top2 and there's a very limited range of decks that I can face, so I was thinking that maybe 8-rack would be a good choice if tuned well for it.
    The playoff is in the format that wizards used on the PT (1st and 2nd enter directly to the semifinals, 3rd and 4th on quarterfinals and so on)

    The matchups would be:
    1st match (I choose first if I play or draw): Winner of match between Burn or RUG Scapeshift (the old version) (most likely to be Burn as it's favored)
    2nd match (opponent chooses first if he plays or draws): RG Scapeshift or 4C Humans (or bant)
    Then finals, which doesn't really matter as getting top2 is enough

    What are your thoughts about tuning 8-rack for this matches? Would it be favored?
    I don't think there would be much to change on recent lists for the Valakut/Scapeshift matchups

    My biggest concern is the Humans matchup, in which I don't know exactly how to tune the deck for it. What would be your suggestions? How can we tune the list to consistently beat CoCo aggro decks? I'm thinking that Grafdigger's Cage is a good option against CoCo and also, as much Bontu's Last Reckoning as I can fit in the board. But beyond that I'm having a hard time finding what could give a gamebreaker advantage.

    Then, the burn matchup, are you having more success choosing to play or to draw?
    Would you think that playing 4 Collective Brutality main deck could be a good choice for this expected matches and good enought to give some advantage on the burn matchup? What else would you suggest?


    I think the best against human or vizier is flaying tendrils and Night of Souls' Betrayal. The cage is very good but you lose the raven's crime. I think surgical is better. in theory is a good pairing for 8 rack and you have many chances to win. it depends a lot on whether you respond to the first mana accelerator that plays you, smallpox is also key and if you play two in a row I think the game is yours
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    fatal push is the removal I needed mono black .
    the three fetch are to activate the revolt to the late game. since with urborg in play with the fetch you can add black without sacrificing it. and that's very good because at the given time it can help you to activate the push revolt. I found many times that a simple vendilion cliqueIt kills you ,
    and have the fatal push in hand and not have revolt. being able to activate the revolt can save us from many dangerous creatures . Master of Etherium,Thought-Knot Seer ,Restoration Angel ,Flickerwisp , Obstinate Baloth , Master of Waves etc..
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    lili of the veil !!! 8 rack"
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack

    the solution is death's shadow. gives much advantage and can finish the game very fast. my criterion is that if you play against reckless zoo or affinity it is better to play on the play. against burn I like it more on the draw. by the way the end of the tournament was against burn. win 2 to 0 on the draw. if your concern is hyper aggro I recommend 3 or 4 death's shadow of SB and change them by thoughtseize, dismember would not take them because they have synergy with the shadow and can help you play it before and is also a remobal. respect to play on the play only would play against hyper aggro (affinty and reckless zoo) and tron, against decks that you can play chalice of first turn also.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Hello people ! today I got the first place in the trial mkm series. 7-1 in global. in theory will be the list in tc decks. I only lost the first against ub faeries. I have managed to win titanshift burn uwr urkiki etc ...
    highlight things on the deck.
    23 more than enough land.
    4 wrench mind
    no pack rat. I am not convinced i is weak, is usually topdeck bad.
    night of souls betrayal is bound to give you the match against affinyti infect and coco.
    little more to say with the desire to go to the mkm of barcelona and to be able to play a good role. this deck will give us many joys! greetings 8 rack players and remember. always on the draw
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    I think twenty-three lands is more than enough. also I think and I see that four copies of urborg and mutavault is very excessive, many times we will have to force the mulligan to have two copies of muta in hand or two urborg in hand, besides that can stop us the game. I think 3/3 is the right thing to do.
    also would opt for three fetch ia many creatures we can not kill. spellqueller relikary kitchen eternal vendillion master etc ... right now I'm playing with 23 lands and you end up with too much mana. I have removed two funeral charms since they are mediocre and I am playing with four fatal push and two dismember. the wrench mind took four, I think it's the right number if you play in an aggro meta and control with few affinitys and tron .
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    I like the tom list. but I think four lotv in sb is a lot. It is also very bad if it is not in the initial hand. I would opt for two nihill and one lotv
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Quote from broodwarjc »
    Quote from Ashiok »
    So, first time here on this thread. 8-rack, along with merfolk, is one of the few modern decks I enjoy playing.

    I'm curious: do you guys think the planeswalker change will benefit us? I modified tom ross' list by cutting two funeral charms and adding two liliana, the last hope (I also changed the sideboard because I was feeling the lack of ensnaring bridges). What do you guys think? Second liliana might be good?


    I definitely think another grind source is needed as the games where the opponent got over 4 lands became a real slog for Tom (his loss against Jeskai Control in Top 4 was painful to watch). I think Liliana, the Last Hope is at least worth testing (I am not sure what I would drop for her). Her -2 would also support running some creatures in our SB (Asylum Visitor and Pack Rat jump to mind). which would give us some better grind and if we can get her Emblem... Game Over.
    bitterblosom obb nixilis empty the pyts dark confidant ... Jejeje
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    Delirium skeins for?
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    What list do you play? Would you mind sharing it?
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    the bridge against etron is great. etron kills attacking. they only play a karn. and if the ratched is only for the chalice remember that against etron you have to play your first one if you give us too much advantage
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on 8Rack
    The bontu is harder to play against merfolks than the bridge. in the first game if you play you have won. apart the bontu is an extra turn for your opponent. and if you play bridge to etron I assure you that the problem has your opponent. by the way we play discards and you can remove the hate
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
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