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  • posted a message on Evaluate Everything
    Quote from Cptflcn »
    Am I allowed to suggest cards? What about the following black creature cards, not on the list:

    - Night Market Lookout
    - Kitesail Freebooter
    - Grixis Slavedriver
    - Gurmag Angler
    - Zulaport Cutthroat
    - Sultai Scavenger


    Zulaport Cutthroat would be a notable missing card. (Reanimate is also still missing from the black 1cc section, fwiw.) The rest here are either too new or they haven't gotten to those casting costs yet.

    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on [RIX][CUBE] The Immortal Sun
    Is this better than Staff of Nin if the cube doesn't run planeswalkers and can ignore that ability all together? I'm thinking it's better in an environment like that.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [RIX][CUBE] Storm the Vault // Vault of Catlacan
    Those decks don't care much about attacking, but they do prioritize having multiple artifacts in play. Even without reliably making treasures with this, it should flip into Academy 2.0 with relative consistency. I like it. I think it needs some testing to really see how easy it is to flip in those decks, but I do like it.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [540][Powered] wtwlf123's Cube
    That's disappointing because I'd have been interested in seeing what you added to yours from Unstable. However, I totally understand the reasoning. We use ours nearly every time we cube and my group loves it. Actually looking to finally take the dive into silver borders with Unstable. I've got a Booster Tutor going in for this weekend's draft.
    Posted in: Cube Lists
  • posted a message on Full Art Tokens
    I feel like I'm in the minority of not really liking these. I'm not a fan of full art (textless) style cards, so I guess that's why. I wish the full art tokens were more like game day promo style tokens. I miss the creature type and power/toughness.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on P1P1 Discussion: Post your packs!
    It's probably Batterskull for me with nods to both Bitterblossom and Thalia. There's enough red aggro in this pack that you could take the Thalia here and eyeball the next few packs to try to lean towards a Boros aggro deck.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    Feldon of the Third Path and Alesha are the two biggest cards that currently keep Avalanche Riders in my list. Without them, it probably would have been replaced long ago.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    I don't have quite the same lukewarm feeling about Curse as it seems some of the others here do. Sure, it's only good on offense, but that has't been too much of a negative for me. I also think it's just fine in a tokens shell. The last time I drafted it I was in a GW beat down deck that also had Captain's Claws. It was really fun and easy to overwhelm the opponent with an army of big guys. Which is another thing about this Curse. Even without the token maker to create a new dude every turn, just on a board of two or three guys (which isn't uncommon in any aggro deck) the counters can get out of hand really quick and make your creatures just monstrous in combat.

    I do like retail draft, but honestly, I just don't make much time for Magic at all outside of cube and the occasional venture into pauper on MTGO. I haven't played any sanctioned limited tournaments since M15 and even that was on MTGO and because, I believe, they offered a free sealed event for some reason. I haven't been in an LGS tournament since the Return to Ravnica prerelease.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [UST][CUBE] Crow Storm
    I added Empty the Warrens to my lower power list to try to bolster a UR Spells Matter deck. I'm not trying to make Storm a thing, but Empty is nice as a payoff in that deck. This seems like a solid addition to continue support of that deck.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    If we get any Booster Tutor type cards or cards that make sense in a normal game of Magic (the way Sword of Dungeons & Dragons does), then I'll be adding those into the conspiracy module. We add that in practically every time we all get together to draft, so I try to keep it current. It's only not a part of the cube because I still do quite a bit of two man drafts and most of those cards don't make sense there. For the most part I really dislike Un cards and the silliness of it, but I'm at least a little excited to see what Unstable has to offer cube.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Sleeves and Storage Discussion
    Quote from SavannahLion »
    Wow... that's bad.

    A possibility occurred to me. Maybe the equipment used to make the sleeves is too old and worn out?

    Those machines wear out like anything else. So while they might pass some initial QC test or sit within some define operating parameters, enough of those numbers might be off just enough to degrade the overall quality of the final product. Not the first time that happened.


    I believe KMC was purchased by a different parent company, but they kept all the same branding. Because of that it seems that this parent company has tried to cut costs in some ways and changed the formula. The sleeves themselves still feel really well and the corners hold up great, but it seems the glue they are using just isn't holding up like it used to.

    Quote from Visserdrix »
    Please let us know how the eclipses hold up!


    I definitely will. I have high hopes for them.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    Mana Drain is obviously fantastic. It be a simple Counterspell or it can be a complete blowout.

    I don't know if I can pick one favorite artist. Terese Nielsen, maybe? Rebecca Guay, Kev Walker, Richard Kane Ferguson, John Avon, Steve Argyle, rk post... there are so many. More recently I've really loved Clint Cearley's work. The Game Day Reclamation Sage is one of my favorite arts in my cube.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Evaluate Everything
    Coming from powered to peasant, I found it incredibly surprising to see that Edicts were generally out of favor among peasant lists compared to being staples in powered (and unpowered) rare lists. I asked Klug specifically why he didn't include Edicts in his list and he responded simply with "tokens". Peasant games tend to be about combat with a good portion of decks looking to go wide. In that environment, I can see how an Edict would have little effect and would be better served as another Doom Blade variant.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on Sleeves and Storage Discussion
    Quote from wtwlf123 »
    I've had my cube sleeved in black KMC hyper mattes w/ KMC perfect fits for probably the last 24-30 months or so, and I can't even remember the last time we split a sleeve. They've been fantastic.

    But from what I understand, they've changed their process over the past year or so, and they suck now. I'll likely switch to perfect hards w/ Dragon Shields the next time I re-sleeve.


    Yeah, I did a bit of research on the "best quality sleeves" before I bought enough sleeves for the whole cube. Everywhere I looked the KMC Hypers were getting fantastic reviews. Reddit loved them. People here loved them. The Professor had them ranked at number one on his list and I watched his video where he really put them through the ringer with the stretch test. I had KMC Mattes (not Hypers) on before and they were really good. We'd split one every now and then, but not often, so I fully expected the Hypers to be just as good or better. They shuffle well and feel really good in your hands, but they split like crazy across the bottom. The corners seem to hold up, but I'd be willing to bet that a good third of my cube right now has sleeves that are fully split across the bottom and most of the rest starting to splt. We've had so many split that I'm now out of extra sleeves, which is why I'm buying sleeves. It's been less than two years (last Feb) since we last sleeved, which feels like an incredibly short time considering the amount of money and time it takes to sleeve an entire cube. The original KMC Mattes are now on my secondary cube and still going strong after probably five years or so of use. I'm hoping the Eclipse sleeves hold up to long term use. They look and feel great, I just don't know about their longevity.

    For reference this is what's happening. This defeats the purpose of double sleeving in the first place.




    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    Geist is fantastic, but admittedly there are times where being a 2/2 vanilla himself holds him back despite coming with a 4/4 angel. That's the only real drawback, though.

    I mostly use official WotC tokens, but I do have a few that I've created myself and printed as proxies. I have Lion-O Cat tokens for Brimaz, Gremlins brand Gremlin tokens for Release the Gremlins, Cthulu Kraken tokens for Kiora, an Abu token for Ragavan, and Inspector Gadget Thopter tokens. If I were made of money, I'd get official WotC tokens altered to be all these things instead of using printed paper proxies slid into sleeves over other generic cards, but alas I haven't yet hit that lotto.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
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