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The Magic Market Index for Oct 13, 2017
 
The World of Kamigawa
 
Treasure Cruisin' - Manaless Dredge
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    I'm interested in 3 Ghost Quarter and 0 Field of Ruin.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Joban8 »

    Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure I remember seeing some sort of Modern/Legacy brew from MTGgoldfish that used a set of Idyllic Tutors. Since every card that dude touches spikes, I'd venture to guess that, being a Morningtide rare, Idyllic Tutor spiked and never returned to baseline.


    Leylines, a win fast or lose fast Legacy deck.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    The last, my arse. Eternal Masters 2 will be out in the fall. MM4 the following spring (2019)

    As Lion said, cash cow.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    Quote from Dosequiguy »
    Visions of Beyond is your most important card and you need to not draw it in your opening 7. Surgical on Rack or Affliction buys time against most draws. Not a good matchup though to say the least.

    Also, most 8 rack lists will have creatures in their sideboard to bring in. If you don't think they are playing creatures then Profane Memento makes no sense either.


    Oops, not Momento, Nature's Claim.

    I'm seeing Visions of Beyond as antithetical to the Ensnaring Bridge plan.

    Right now, I'm thinking removal for Mutavault and the creature they sideboard in. Board out Bridge, keep Trap, because we can Trap them after we use Field of Ruin on a Mutavault. Exile their hand disruption. They will yank them away anyway, so we may as well get a 4:1. I'm thinking save the Extractions for when they play Raven's Crime or Blackmail, etc. but Extirpate needs to be used when we can, lest they strip it.

    LotV wasn't a problem, they milled them all, but if she hit the board, I'd have had an impossible time dealing with her. So, optimal sideboard is: Crypt Incursion out, Ensnaring Bridge out, Cage in, Claim in, Hurkyl's Recall in, and any card draw in. Never even entered my mind to bring in the Recalls. Duh.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    My list went 2-2 last night.

    Working off a failing memory, I beat monogreen Eldrazi 2-0 in the first round, 2nd round I beat a green collected company deck using elves 2-1, lost to a deck I cannot recollect 2-1, and then 8-rack whipped me 2-0.

    Mesmeric orb made no difference the 1st 2 rounds, and then showed up everywhere in the last 2 rounds.

    Not sure how to go about beating 8-rack. they are the antithesis of everything I was trying to do. Boarded out removal, and boarded in Trap, Cage and Memento. Extracted Rack, Shrieking Affliction still nailed me. Extracted Raven's Crime, still too much coming. That's gonna be a tough one.

    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    I'm not a fan of Ravenous Trap. I much prefer Crypt Incursion.

    I'm tossing around ideas in my head for a deck that focuses on Archive Trap. Now that we have a guaranteed way to force the opponent to search, I am trying to figure out a way to get a T4 mill out.

    What we need in hand:

    2 Archive Trap
    1 Field of Ruin
    1 Fraying Sanity

    What we have to find them:

    Expedition Map (Field of Ruin)
    Sylvan Scrying (Green) (Field of Ruin)
    Trapmaker's Snare (Archive Trap)
    Infernal Tutor (Archive Trap)

    Bitterheart Witch will get a curse when it dies, but her CMC is 5.

    Stuck right about here. How to find the curse without going white for idyllic Tutor.

    The deck would have essentially 12 Archive Traps and 12 Field of Ruin. Probably need 4 ways to find Fraying Sanity to be viable. I suppose we could run it in a hardcore control shell to get time, lets say 4 Darkness and 4 Fog. Or something like 4 Visions of Beyond, 4 Peek and 4 Serum Visions and perhaps 4 Index.
    I'm more partial to the Darkness/Fog angle.
    Here is a decklist for you guys to critique:
    https://deckbox.org/sets/1813336

    Probably the Glimpses go for more control and card draw.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    I knew Field of Ruin would change Mill. It forces a search, triggering Trap. The search is not optional. Ghost Quarter could not do that. Path could not do that. You knock them off a color, trigger a search and thus Trap for 2 mana. FoR is a 4 of. They have to respect it, knowing as long as it's on the field, Archive Trap is a constant threat.

    Furthermore, you do not lose tempo. You still get your land. This is even better compared to Ghost Quarter, where you went down a land, and they went up one, or Path, where they went up a land and you did not. It Revolts Fatal Push - AND gets the Swamp to cast it! I think it ends the Esper debate, as the only reasons now to go white are Ghostly Prison and Disenchant. U/B can give viable alternatives at the same cost, Bridge and Set Adrift.

    I still recommend Snapcaster Mage, strictly for the flashback. The chump block can be nice as well. My current updated list, debuting tomorrow at FNM: https://deckbox.org/sets/1378327

    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    The best card for that, actually, is Altar of the Brood. It's more an EDH trick to stop Top.

    I've often wondered if Mill could use Brood. Oboro as a land guarantees you will always have at least 1 land to play per turn. Ultimately, Mill just does not have enough permanents. I'd love to make a deck that does.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Complain about Legacy Prices & Availability Thread
    Antiquities, Legends and Arabian Nights saw a massive influx of money, between $20,000 - $100,000 in the last 3 weeks.

    There is more coming. Wall Street has noticed, and even lesser The Dark rares are spiking.

    Right now, I think the money is moving very slowly - picking off a few copies a week to avoid spooking the market and encouraging people to increase the price. Eventually, though, someone is going to walk in with $2 million, and we'll be longing for the days of $400 Moat, $300 Diamond Valley, $1200 Tabernacle. It absolutely flabbergasts me that there are Reserved List cards that are still under $1 each. I'm buying RL cards wherever I can, because the money is coming into Magic, and soon.
    Posted in: Legacy (Type 1.5)
  • posted a message on [Deck] UBx Mill
    I have finally broken down and conceded the need for Mesmeric Orb. All night on Friday, I was losing with the opponent having a mere handful of cards left in their library. Orbs ordered, we shall see how they do.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    You are in eternal formats, including Modern. You are using it for Revolt in Standard. The lands just are not abusive enough in Standard to use it for anything else. Granted, we are going to get new flip lands, which may change things. But for now, it's just a way to revolt your Push. But what do I know? I quit playing standard a few months ago.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Daeyel »
    Push just got a major boost in Standard. It now has an easy way to revolt aside from evolving wilds.
    Is there something spoiled I'm missing?


    Field of Ruin. Going to be a great card. Would not be surprised to see this in the $3 - $5 range.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Push just got a major boost in Standard. It now has an easy way to revolt aside from evolving wilds.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Well, there you go. I hadn't any idea. So just stick to the pack promos.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    The real money is in the Reserved list cards. I've given up on speculating on Modern cards. The reprints make it too risky.

    There are, of course, certain exceptions. The flip walkers from Origins, because DFC are hard to reprint unless you do a large number of them. Gideon in particular will be popular as Gideon tribal may become a thing in Modern and EDH. Also the Expedition/Masterpiece/Invocation series has enormous potential over the next 5 years. I'm picking up those where and when I can.

    The sheer amount of money that moved into the RL in the past 2 months makes any and all RL cards a great purchase for future sale. The Dark will be next, and I've quietly been stocking up on RL cards in anticipation. The USC document is no longer available, but the Wayback Machine has it archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20151225142722/usc.edu/dept/Deckmasters/archive/mtg/printrun.txt

    Some of these cards are seriously rare, and are truly the only real place to put one's money if you are looking to make a profit or speculate in Magic. The top end is going to be graded examples of the iconic cards. In the end, collectors rule the day, because they get fanatical about it, and the low populations of mint copies can only get lower, since this is a playing, shuffling game. Sportscards do not deal with this. Running over to Beckett.com to look at the pop report of graded power 10 shows this. If you can find a Power 10 card graded 9.5 or higher for less than a 50% increase over the regular price, it's a steal. The window is fast closing, as someone has put what looks to be $20 or $30K into buying up RL cards from Alpha to Legends, with a few The Dark cards. The money will keep coming in.
    Posted in: Modern
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