Ahh nice creature did you read guilty conscience in the new breakdown portion of the first post? I think it does the same thing. I wonder which is the better option?
Thank you everyone for all your suggestions! And sorry for taking so long to respond. I've compleatly revamped it now based on your recommendations and hours of research. Please take a second look and help me chop it down to size.
Just to clarify, the pariah+Treacherous Link is more effectively used on an opponants creatures. It turns 1 damage per mana into 3 damage per when using Pestilence.
Pariah is also fairly versatile, I can use it on Stuffy Doll for another 3 damage per mana. Or if I'm feeling threatened or overwhelmed with opponants creatures I can use it on my Darksteel Myr or Phylactery Lich then simply let my opponents hit me.
I can also cast it to aid in creature removal or at least prevent them from attacking with that creature.. Most creatures have equal power and toughness ergo I'd take the damage, then happily transfer it back to attacking creature, destroying it. It they wait too long without dealing with it or attacking with it to be rid of it. That's when Treacherous Link comes into play.
One card that was just brought to my attention was Slagworm Armor. I was thinking it was a good way to bolster High Priest of Penence which would also help the Lich. Darksteel Plate is another possibility now thanks to wildfire. I'm curious to hear feedback on this now.
I'm also looking in to en-Kor redirect damage with Lashknife Barrier but I'm having trouble seeing the fit.
Again thanks so much for the feed back! It's really helping
Ps, I think I'll let Pariah be my Urza's Armor for now. It's cheaper to play. And this deck is slow enough lol
Usually I lurked where the decks were listed. Looking at people's creations in silence stealing the odd idea here and there. Building on them and creating masterpieces. At least to me. Anyways im glad to finally be a part of it all
I seem to overthink or over analyze my decks and it always brings me back to here with questions. But up until now I've been able to find my answers off the questions of others.
Usually I lurked where the decks were listed. Looking at people's creations in silence stealing the odd idea here and there. Building on them and creating masterpieces. At least to me. Anyways im glad to finally be a part of it all
Death Pits of Wrath a good card! It's casting cost is 5 though. That's pretty high. I'll keep it in mind though. I need the deck to speed up. I'll table that one for now.
Urza's armor is also a solid addition. Does anyone feel like it costs too much?
Lashknife Barrier is pretty interesting! It really opens up the doors to creatures I can play with. With that card I wouldn't need to limit myself to pro black and indestructible creatures. Wow, well that opens a lot of doors.
I think you may want to look at dropping the Phylactery Lich with only six artifact in the deck. Back around Urza's Saga there was a BW preconstructed deck that had Worship + Protection from Black + Pestilence + Urza's Armor that was really fun to play with.
En-Kor creatures are also fun since you can choose where their damage is going to be going (may I suggest something with protection or indestructible?)
If you are looking to try other colors Pestilence + Rite of Passage or Fungus Sliver can make for some big armies.
Hey thanks for the feedback! I want to keep it a white and black only. I really like the Urza's Armor for the synergy with pestilence but I think it's mana cost is pretty high? Feed back on this?
Wall of Resistance seems really weak. It stops you from activating pestilence a lot early, and only grows by one counter a turn, while still being vulnerable to removal. You'd be better off fitting another random pro-black guy in that slot. Auriok Champion is not a bad way to gain a bunch of life, and pro red means she also blocks 2/5ths of all creatures indefinitely. Mirran Crusader has great stats and pro black and green. Obsidian Acolyte can be used to pestilence-proof any of your guys, though it doesn't look like any in the current list need it. High Priest of Penance is a decent rattlesnake that can let you take out bigger dudes on Pestilence activations, though ideally you want a way to bolster his toughness to really abuse him.
I took a few of your recommendations to heart and made some changes. What are your thoughts on swapping Crusading Knight for Auriok Champion? Also any thoughts on a good card for High Priest of Penance that also fit with the deck?
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
Ok, so I've made many changes based on recommendations and also researched a lot on my own, I now have more cards then I know what to do with. Now I need help cutting it down it's difficult to choose. Any help will be most appreciated!
Ok so first off which lands do I take out I only need 20ish probably the artifact lands will go but that depends on if the Phylactery Lich stays or goes.
Guilty Conscience does this card + Stuffy Doll+ Pestilence create infinite damage?? Also can you detach equipment whenever you want? To attach to a different creature?
Treacherous Link+ Pariah is this decks bread and butter. + Pestilence of course. Makes me immune to damage by attaching these two enchantments to an opponent's creature.
Pariah not only does this card combo with Link well, it's also extremely versatile in that I could put it on say...Swans of Bryn Argoll for additional draw or Wall of hope for additional life, so long as it's protected. Or High Priest of Penance for compleat and utter chaos!! (So long as it's protected or bolstered) or Stuffy Doll for more damage. Or any other pro black or indestructible creature for protection for me.
Pestilence the inspiration for the deck I used wisps before but didn't like that I needed snow covered lands. Also the Crypt Rats are a creature pestilence that I didn't know about...
This is my life gainer deck! It feels pretty solid. However I'm throwing it out there. Suggestions?
4 Serra Ascendant
4 Soul Warden
4 Soul's Attendant
2 Ajani's Pridemate
2 Suture Priest
4 Auriok Champion
4 Wall of Reverence
4 Serra Avatar
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Concerted Effort
2 Quicksilver Amulet
2 Well of Lost Dreams
1 Boon Reflection
1 Citanul Flute
2 Angelic Chorus
Ps CripyLinks the sideboard is for the above deck
Just to clarify, the pariah+Treacherous Link is more effectively used on an opponants creatures. It turns 1 damage per mana into 3 damage per when using Pestilence.
Pariah is also fairly versatile, I can use it on Stuffy Doll for another 3 damage per mana. Or if I'm feeling threatened or overwhelmed with opponants creatures I can use it on my Darksteel Myr or Phylactery Lich then simply let my opponents hit me.
I could also play it on Swans of Brim Argoll for unlimited card draw.
I can also cast it to aid in creature removal or at least prevent them from attacking with that creature.. Most creatures have equal power and toughness ergo I'd take the damage, then happily transfer it back to attacking creature, destroying it. It they wait too long without dealing with it or attacking with it to be rid of it. That's when Treacherous Link comes into play.
One card that was just brought to my attention was Slagworm Armor. I was thinking it was a good way to bolster High Priest of Penence which would also help the Lich. Darksteel Plate is another possibility now thanks to wildfire. I'm curious to hear feedback on this now.
I'm also looking in to en-Kor redirect damage with Lashknife Barrier but I'm having trouble seeing the fit.
Again thanks so much for the feed back! It's really helping
Ps, I think I'll let Pariah be my Urza's Armor for now. It's cheaper to play. And this deck is slow enough lol
I seem to overthink or over analyze my decks and it always brings me back to here with questions. But up until now I've been able to find my answers off the questions of others.
Urza's armor is also a solid addition. Does anyone feel like it costs too much?
Lashknife Barrier is pretty interesting! It really opens up the doors to creatures I can play with. With that card I wouldn't need to limit myself to pro black and indestructible creatures. Wow, well that opens a lot of doors.
Hey thanks for the feedback! I want to keep it a white and black only. I really like the Urza's Armor for the synergy with pestilence but I think it's mana cost is pretty high? Feed back on this?
I took a few of your recommendations to heart and made some changes. What are your thoughts on swapping Crusading Knight for Auriok Champion? Also any thoughts on a good card for High Priest of Penance that also fit with the deck?
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
Ok, so I've made many changes based on recommendations and also researched a lot on my own, I now have more cards then I know what to do with. Now I need help cutting it down it's difficult to choose. Any help will be most appreciated!
4 Auriok Champion
4 Nomads en-Kor
4 Wall of Hope
4 High Priest of Penance
4 Darksteel Myr
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Crypt Rats
4 Phylactery Lich
3 Stillmoon Cavalier
2 Swans of Bryn Argoll
1 Erebos, God of the Dead
2 Stuffy Doll
Spells:
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Guilty Conscience
4 Slagwurm Armor
4 Darksteel Plate
4 Scythe of the Wretched
1 Brave the Sands
2 Greater Auramancy
1 Mine Excavation[c/]
4 Treacherous Link
1 Righteous War
4 Pariah
4 Pestilence
4 Fetid Heath
4 Vault of Whispers
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Temple of Silence
4 Serra's Sanctum
4 Scoured Barrens
4 Scrubland
Now I'll break it all down and ask questions
Ok so first off which lands do I take out I only need 20ish probably the artifact lands will go but that depends on if the Phylactery Lich stays or goes.
There is no particular order.
CREATURES
Nomads en-Kor -can redirect Damage to any of my protected or indestructible creatures. Works well with Swans of Bryn Argoll for card draw or Stuffy Doll to damage.
Wall of Hope Alternate life gain method especially if I put Slagwurm Armor or Darksteel Plate on it + Pestilence
Auriok Champion Has pro black, and life gain. -is safe from Pestilence and or
Crypt Rats
High Priest of Penance also is very nice with Slagwurm Armor or Darksteel Plate on it + Pestilence. Here is an insane combo- Crypt Rats+Scythe of the Wretched+ High Priest of Penance you equip the scythe on the rats, if the priest or rat dies, it comes back under your control. You damage a huge creature once, then kill it with the priest, it comes back under your control.
Boros Reckoner 3 cc for a 3/3 basically a stronger more expensive Stuffy Doll once I put Slagwurm Armor or Darksteel Plate on it + Pestilence
Crypt Rats a creature pestilence who needs protection. See high priest for combo.
Darksteel Myr indestructible, immune to pestilence and or crypt rats
Phylactery Lich Indestructible 3cc for a 5/5 needs artifacts to survive though.
Stillmoon Cavalier pro black pumpable... Probably gonna chop this one.
Wall of Light just a more powerful pro black cemetery gate. Likely be chopped.
Erebos, God of the Dead indestructible 4 cc opponents can't gain life.
SPELLS
Enlightened Tutor my fetch artifact or enchantment card. Must have.
Guilty Conscience does this card + Stuffy Doll+ Pestilence create infinite damage?? Also can you detach equipment whenever you want? To attach to a different creature?
Slagwurm Armor It's primarily for High Priest of Penance but could be used on Crypt Rats or Wall of Hope or Boros Reckoner if it makes the cut.
Brave the Sands just a enchantment I stumbled across that seems like the dual blocking Indestructible might be worth it.
Greater Auramancy take care of those enchantments?
Scythe of the Wretched see high priest above for combo. I can't see any other uses for it. A +2 toughness on the Wall of hope
Treacherous Link+ Pariah is this decks bread and butter. + Pestilence of course. Makes me immune to damage by attaching these two enchantments to an opponent's creature.
Pariah not only does this card combo with Link well, it's also extremely versatile in that I could put it on say...Swans of Bryn Argoll for additional draw or Wall of hope for additional life, so long as it's protected. Or High Priest of Penance for compleat and utter chaos!! (So long as it's protected or bolstered) or Stuffy Doll for more damage. Or any other pro black or indestructible creature for protection for me.
Righteous War maybe a better option then all the artifacts? However does it cover High Priest of Penance? That's the big question?
Indestructibility just seems too expensive.
Pestilence the inspiration for the deck I used wisps before but didn't like that I needed snow covered lands. Also the Crypt Rats are a creature pestilence that I didn't know about...
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