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    posted a message on [Primer] UB/x Faeries
    Quote from Tyler697 »
    I mean Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. I was just referring to pretty much any Mind Control effect in theory, but I have had some success specifically with siding in Ashiok. After stabilising with disruption I slammed a turn 3 Ashiok and stole a Thought-Knot Seer which pretty much ends the game against them barring a nut draw on their end. But what happened was the TKS stalled a couple of turns until I stole a Reality Smasher which promptly ended the match. Turns out Eldrazi Tron can dish it out, but they can't take it. Small sample size on my end but Control Magic effects may have some merit or at least worth testing I think.


    Recently been playing one sower in board, I thought hey less bolts running around this card may be better than before. I haven't been disappointed, sometimes you can steal a fattie and sometimes against shadow it's a 4 mana 2/2 flying kill spell for shadow.


    Sower of temptation isn't good against eldrazi tron since they run endbringer and walking ballista. Sower has very little defense to work with against those.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
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    posted a message on [Primer] UB/x Faeries
    Quote from AtomicTwink1e »
    Has anyone had recent success with running 4 thoughtseize mainboard? I feel like between fatal push, mana leak, and spellstutter sprite we have a lot of interaction in the early game and with Low CMC decks in general, but big mana decks continue to be a serious issue. I realize that the life loss is not insignificant and drawing multiple can sting, but I feel like it can be mitigated with some Collective Brutality in the mainboard, as well.

    Previously I was running 4x IoK mainboard, but I think I'm going to switch to 4x Thoughtseize and see how it affects things. I'm also curious to know if anyone has tips for beating Eldrazi Tron. I feel like pre-board is heavily in their favor, and I'm not even sure what's best to bring in against them. Right now I feel comfortable using 2x Ceremonious Rejection, 2x Go for the Throat, and 2x Damnation, but I'm wondering if there are more narrow cards that just make the match-up more manageable.


    4 thoughtseize is fine if you don't expect much burn/affinity/elves/aggro.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
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    posted a message on [Primer] UB/x Faeries
    I'm not sure what the upside of playing Warp is over Mastery. Mastery's weakness is that you don't want it in your opening hand or on T2, but this deck has the ability to largely mitigate that through the ability to loot it away with Copter or Collective Brutality. After that it seems a lot better than Warp except that you might draw it off CC occasionally. It probably gets worse with if you run SV but otherwise it seems better than Warp. What makes you think Warp is better?
    actually being able to cast time warp for one. timing of mastery is also a factor

    Temporal mastery is not a good card because you are at the mercy of when you draw the card and often times in our deck it does the same thing as explore would since we play at instant speed. Time Warp is different because the card is always 5 mana which allows the deck to be more aggressive with playing remands. It played like an aggressive version of Mono U turns. This version of fae died when Twin got banned because the format sped up.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
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    posted a message on [Primer] UB/x Faeries
    Quote from Zerve »
    It seems like UB Fae is very flexible and has a number of ways it can be tuned either for the pilot's play style or expected meta. Looking at a number of different lists, it seems like a lot of people tend to go towards the slower, midrange-like version which wants to grind grind grind. My current modern deck is Mono U Fae which definitely plays more aggro and proactive than UB Faeries. I've tried UB online and am still forming my opinion on it, though.

    So just a bit of a thought experiment for the more experienced players/brewers/pilots: If you were to build a list which strayed away from the UB Grind style, what would that look like? Say, a strict UB Aggro list, or tempo variant. As an example: instead of going for grinders like Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Liliana of the Veil, we'd opt for Vapor Snag and Remand. Is Bitterblossom even good here? 7 turns is a lot for an "aggressive" deck in my opinion.


    The question is "why build this?" What are the advantages of it in terms of matchups? Right now I don't see many. If I wanted to get more aggressive I would play 2 copies of Scion of Oona. There is also the issue of there not being many good aggro faeries. If you want more aggro I would recommend Bant spirits since you get to hold up collected company and spell queller with a Mausoleum Wanderer on the field.
    Posted in: Developing Competitive (Modern)
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from cleedude »
    Guys lets please get back on to modern price specs.
    Like does anyone know of any new short term, small profit spec targets right now or just the usual long term?


    Zombies picked up wins in Standard, and I believe can make the transition to Modern. Messenger's and Gravecrawlers I think will make good targets.


    I do not think that it translates well whatsoever. Zombies is just a fair aggro deck full of a bunch of subpar creatures for modern's standards. In a world of turn 3 storm kills/burn kills/affinity kills, supreme verdicts, infinite mana combos, etc, I'm not sold on it being anything but untiered. So I wouldn't invest in it unless you like standard/tribal zombies.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from prismatic elf »
    Quote from cleedude »
    Guys lets please get back on to modern price specs.
    Like does anyone know of any new short term, small profit spec targets right now or just the usual long term?


    Zombies picked up wins in Standard, and I believe can make the transition to Modern. Messenger's and Gravecrawlers I think will make good targets.
    Foil Vizier of remedies are a good pickup but there is a high risk that it or Devoted Druid gets ban.


    Can we not talk about a deck receiving a ban that is not even 1 month old? There is another thread for that.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    We've gone from Magic cards to firearms and back again here. Remember, this is about Magic, and Modern specifically. Please keep in mind that in the future we need to evaluate our posts and make sure the content pertains to Modern. Asking about whether or not to buy is not complaining about prices: $600, while being the bottom of tiered deck prices in Modern, is not always within reach for everyone. We are here to help each other make the smartest Modern financial choices available, not say that because a deck is relatively cheap for the format there is nothing to discuss.
    --CavalryWolfPack


    The reason why I state that 600 is not expensive for a tier 1 modern deck is that its just reality. If you want to compete at the highest level of play you have to have the cash to drop on this game. Ultimately magic is an expensive hobby and if you can't compete then there is nothing wrong with buying into a budget list. At the same time it's fruitless to ask people what is going to be printed in the next set because no one here will know.

    Anyways right now the best tier 1 decks to spec on are: Elves (cheap creature base and I expect CoCo to go up), burn: (A lot of the deck got cheaper based on reprints from masters sets) and affinity (The cheapest tier 1 deck that's consistent).
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on State of Modern Thread: bans, format health, metagame, and more! (3/13 update)
    Quote from xxhellfirexx3 »
    Quote from bjholmes3 »
    the semblance of "blue reactive decks" being competitive is basically gone.



    While blue control is doing alright at the moment, the question is: will this sustain? It is very reasonable to be skeptical of this after what we have seen over the past year and a half after the twin ban.


    This tier list is literally updated weekly which heavily skews the percentages. He only updates it so often so he can get free views. In actuality seeing the metagame get updated every month or two would make a lot more sense.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on State of Modern Thread: bans, format health, metagame, and more! (3/13 update)
    Quote from gkourou »
    I need to state here that Birthing Pod with the new print, Vizier Of Remedies would be absolutely broken and format warping. This ban was a good one, because it was only going to only get better and better to the point where it was going to going to be unhealthy for the format's state.

    In my books, whoever mentions a Birthing Pod unban again, will be utterly wrong. The card has a tomb in it now.


    Birthing pod always had a tomb. This new combo doesn't change that. Just like how Twin has a tomb.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from ccc1522 »
    Your logic has deep and large holes in it. By asking on whether I should wait or not is complaining to you than I am anxious to see what kind of advice you ask to people.

    $600 pays rent for an apartment where i live, it pays for 2 car payments. You have issues if you believe that people like spending that much on mtg. New flash buddy no one does at all. Wether it be 300$ or 1000$

    If its so cheap than throw me the mox opals. Thats 6% of the deck and if the deck is so cheap than 6% shouldnt be any trouble.

    By asking about iconic masters i am asking about speculations. i am asking because there are ppl who actually study trends, study mtg finances, reprint rates etc etc That could give me a well educated speculation as to wether or not to wait until november for half off mox opals than that would.

    You should refrain from posting your useless criticisms and to be honest should actually try to give advice or at least answer the question.


    Now you are just getting off topic. Flaming me will just get you banned. No one knows the answers to when someone is like "hey guys what are your thoughts on iconic masters? Will it have goyf and every expensive card every for modern." Obviously noone knows. There is no way to be well educated about a set noone knows about.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Grixis Control
    Quote from darkvoidman »
    Irrelevant?why u think is that?You have ok mus vs the field expet burn tron and dredge..expect that i think you are ok even in game 1

    Clearly this deck isn't since it has dropped to tier 3 and everyone still wants to jam Corey's exact 75. The same thing happened when it fell to tier 3 and everyone still only played Chapin's list rather than innovating.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
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    posted a message on As Foretold
    Oddly enough, I don't think that As Foretold belongs in the UW shell so we agree. UW has a big curve so as foretold can only really be used to hold up a counterspell. I'm more intrigued by it in a shell with a very low curve.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on As Foretold
    Quote from purklefluff »
    Quote from Equinox2793 »
    Quote from rcwraspy »
    To expand a bit more, reactive blue decks want to get stronger as the game progresses. But As Foretold gets weaker as the game progresses, unlike something like Sphinx's Revelation. Maybe the rest of the deck + looting can make up for it - we'll only find out from brewing and testing and seeing if any lists show results.


    If anything this is why I'm interested in it. One of the big issues about late game bombs is closing out the game. As Foretold helps control get to a point where it can close out.


    Does it? Most of that "getting to the point when..." happens between turns 1 and 3.

    I like the card. It's difficult to see where it fits right now, maybe it doesn't. Give it six months to a year and someone will have an interesting brew that uses it fairly well.


    turns 1-3 = early game. Turns 4-8 = midgame.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from ccc1522 »
    Im not complaining im trying to save money or is that unheard of to you?

    Dont bother replying if youre going to rude and unhelpful. Secondly it wasnt a complaint at all I have the money but you really think 120$ on 4 cards is something anyone wants to spend?


    Affinity as a deck costs around $600 dollars. That is pennies compared to other competitive modern decks. You are also asking us to do the impossible in speculating if the cards are going to be in the future sets as if we have any intel on that. I don't understand why so many people ask these questions. None of us are wizards employees so none of us know if these cards are getting reprinted. So it just comes off as complaining about card prices.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Hazoret the Fervent
    Hazoret the Fervent seems very interesting to me since it's a 5/4 haste from the top of your deck for 4 mana with a decent ability which seems like a build around me card. Luckily getting almost hellbent is very easy to do in modern with cards like collective brutality/liliana of the veil which are already good cards. I have heard rumblings of this being tried in jund.
    Posted in: Modern
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