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I know that, that's not what my question is asking. Rosewater says there is a rule that ante cards can't enter non-ante games. My question is, where is this rule.
Check section 407 of the Comprehensive Rules as well as sections 6.5 and 6.6 of the Tournament Rules. All cards which reference "ante" are banned in every official Constructed format, including Commander; Pauper and Frontier aren't "official" at this time (as far as I know) but I presume they are banned there, as well. (now that I think about it, none of the ante cards are legal in Modern, anyway, so by default they aren't legal for Frontier) If you and your friends want to ante cards, the way Magic was originally conceived, then feel free to do so but you need to be prepared for when you pick a card at random from your deck to place into ante and that card winds up being Underground Sea--that is a lot of money to bet on a game of Magic.
Yeah, I've read the comp rules and all of 407. Nothing in it says you can't bring in a card with ante, that isn't being played for ante. From what I suspect, doing so, in an un-ante game, would just result in half the card working. Rosewater however says there is an actual rule that says ante cards cant enter non-ante games. That's the rule I am trying to track down, because I can't find it.
As for the TR, since they are actually stated as being banned in Vintage and Legacy, that would mean the ante cards could be brought into a game with Spike, Tournament Grinder.
However, Rosewater says,
This list also includes all cards with the card type conspiracy, but they only work from the command zone, so really don't bother. This list would have included cards that mention ante, but there's a rule (even in silver-bordered games) that ante cards can't enter games that aren't for ante.
So while conspiracy cards do show up in a similar way with the ante cards, the conspiracy cards just dont do anything. Where as the ante cards have some rule that doesnt allow them to enter non-ante games. That is what I am trying to find. That actual rule that says you can't bring them into a game.