Ooh, I was wondering if there was a good replacement for Psychic Possession, and it looks like Mind's Eye works!
And this makes Phabine making the opponent draw really powerful - looks like BB_{w^3 w3 + 2}(53)? Looks like the most that we could hope for.
Edit: Oh using a Caress on the opponent makes them draw 3 cards - Can we just have Infections Inquiry instead and be able to create 53 Phabines?
Edit: I guess that's the thing we were pondering whether we could actually do - if we can't get by with II, one Caress on the opponent followed by 50 Phabines during combat gets us 51 full combos, which should get us more than BB_{w^3 + w3 + 2}(51).
Yeah, but currently the record is BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1} (X) for X somewhat large (but less than BB_{w^3 + w3} (3)). So even two Phabine draws that can get a full combo out of SSA would be a new record.
But of course we would really like to get 53 full BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1} combos out of Phabine. (Perhaps by making things work with II)
Dihada, Binder of Wills might work; we can draw Xorn as well, so we can mill 3, create 6 treasures, and put a legendary card in our hand, or whatever mix between mills and legendary cards that we need. The question is how many Phabines (or Harmonic Prodigys if we go that route) we can make with that start.
I guess the most obvious way to get +2 layers is simply drawing something to make progress, like the aforementioned Smoke Spirits' AId assisted by Xorn or Teysa Karlov. The problem we are facing is how do we get mana to cast the X spell in the first place.
Could Infectious Inquiry be replaced by something that doesn't get as many draws, but provides mana? Or, could we draw something other than an X spell, so that we don't need mana...
Oh no, Launch the Fleet is just to get attackers on the battlefield after the board gets wiped by Worldfire repeatedly. We get one attack trigger per Jolene.
The best I can think of at the moment is to stick with Phabine, and add Jolene, the Plunder Queen and Launch the Fleet. We'd switch to Ratadrabik to get many copies of Jolene. This will get us to BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1}(X), where X is how many Jolenes we can put on the battlefield before attackers are announced.
But, I'm holding out hope we can get to BB_{w^3 + w3 + 2}, somehow...
Hmm, Sam + Academy Manufactor allows us to get a bunch of Treasure tokens for each Sam trigger. Does Brudiclad get us anything significant beyond that?
Ah, that's a shame. I'm also not sure that we can get Smoke Spirits' Aid to work in the current setup without help, as we would have a tough time generating that initial mana. (But maybe check this?) There's gotta be a way to get 2 layers at the end with two cards safely, that's just the normal 1 card per layer.
Hmm, that's a shame about Phabine, but it still gets us at least 53 draws, so we can still get BB_{w^3 + w3 + 2}(57) or thereabouts, which is the best we have so far I think.
Some nice cards! Sliver Gravemother looks like it has potential, but yeah we need a stage creature that requires mana to activate. (But it doesn't need to tap, sacrifice is enough)
Hmm, Ob nixilis, Captive Kingpin can pair with Psychosis Crawler to add a couple of layers below draw triggers. Unfortunately, that is more help if you have a lot of card slots for the ending sequence, and we're very short on that.
I haven't worked it out with Soul Foundry, but I believe having multiple stage creatures allows us to profit, and Firewake Sliver turns all our typed creatures into potential stage creatures.
Edit: Oh, we only get more stage creatures if we use an Artificial Evoution on either the Firewake Sliver or the other creature that we want to be a Sliver, but that's more expensive, so it should be all right? That would also allow us to maybe use Artificial Evolution as our stage benefit spell? But, we still need Fated Infatuation to make copies of nontyped creatures, so I don't think we can drop that.
Edit: Actually no, we can hack one Firewake Sliver to enable another creature type to sac, and just keep it around.
Edit: Nope, changed my mind again. We can hack a Firewake Sliver, but each "Sliver" activation will only be able to target one creature type, so we don't get the possibility of bouncing multiple cards with the same activation. So I believe it's okay.
Okay, so it looks like with this line we can draw the other 10 needed creatures and still draw SSA on II 8 and 9. So we can get 3 casts of SSA; presumably after the first cast we can comfortably cast II for another 5 or 6 copies without using too many copies of SSA.
Caress of Phyrexia plus Psychic Possession would be better if we had a way to get many Psychic Possession triggers off of a draw... but I don't think we do?
If one resolve of II is enough, then I guess we get five full SSA casts? For something like BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1} (BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1}(5)) or so.
And this makes Phabine making the opponent draw really powerful - looks like BB_{w^3 w3 + 2}(53)? Looks like the most that we could hope for.
Edit: Oh using a Caress on the opponent makes them draw 3 cards - Can we just have Infections Inquiry instead and be able to create 53 Phabines?
Edit: I guess that's the thing we were pondering whether we could actually do - if we can't get by with II, one Caress on the opponent followed by 50 Phabines during combat gets us 51 full combos, which should get us more than BB_{w^3 + w3 + 2}(51).
But of course we would really like to get 53 full BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1} combos out of Phabine. (Perhaps by making things work with II)
Could Infectious Inquiry be replaced by something that doesn't get as many draws, but provides mana? Or, could we draw something other than an X spell, so that we don't need mana...
But, I'm holding out hope we can get to BB_{w^3 + w3 + 2}, somehow...
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1 Coat of Arms
2 Xathrid Necromancer
3 Artificial Evolution
4 Arcbond
5 Comeuppance
6 Dralnu's Crusade
Starting a Computation
7 Opalescence
8 Wrong Turn
9 Kaervek's Spite
10 Goblin Boom Keg
11 March of the Machines
Utility
12 Vedalken Orrery
13 Metalworker
14 Twinning Glass
15 Thousand-Year Storm
16 Bloodbond March
17 Chancellor of the Annex
Foundry Stage
18 Martyr of Spores
19 Soul Foundry
20 Phabine, Boss's Confidant
21 Cowardice
22 Mirror of fate
23 Chromescale Drake
24 Ashnod the Uncaring
25 Harmonic Prodigy
26 Brutal Suppression
27 Spellweaver Volute
28 Veyran, Voice of Duality
29 Fated Infatuation
30 Lingering souls
31 K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth
32 Archon of Falling Stars
33 Pious Interdiction
Helix Megastage
34 Spellweaver Helix
35 Worldfire
36 Starlight
37 Abandon the Post
38 Abandon the Post
39 Mox Ruby
40 Yarok, the Desecrated
Blue Mana Stage
41 Master Transmuter
42 Floodchaser
43 Great Furnace
44 Search for Glory
45 Snow-Covered Island
Green Mana Stage
46 Firebrand Ranger
47 Groundskeeper
48 Forest
49 Ruin Ghost
50 Weathered Wayfarer
51 Archaeological Dig
52 Arboreal Grazer
53 Faerie Conclave
Start
54 Mana Crypt
55 Epic Experiment
56 Resurgent Belief
57 Omniscience
58 Infectious Inquiry
59 King Macar, the Gold-Cursed
60 Tolarian Kraken
Getting the red mana for SSA looks like a pain, but we can switch to Tolarian Kraken plus King Macar, the Gold-Cursed / Nyx Lotus now.
Edit: Actually the current strat to cast Worldfire from hand to recycle Mox Ruby should work just fine.
Hmm, Ob nixilis, Captive Kingpin can pair with Psychosis Crawler to add a couple of layers below draw triggers. Unfortunately, that is more help if you have a lot of card slots for the ending sequence, and we're very short on that.
I haven't worked it out with Soul Foundry, but I believe having multiple stage creatures allows us to profit, and Firewake Sliver turns all our typed creatures into potential stage creatures.
Edit: Oh, we only get more stage creatures if we use an Artificial Evoution on either the Firewake Sliver or the other creature that we want to be a Sliver, but that's more expensive, so it should be all right? That would also allow us to maybe use Artificial Evolution as our stage benefit spell? But, we still need Fated Infatuation to make copies of nontyped creatures, so I don't think we can drop that.
Edit: Actually no, we can hack one Firewake Sliver to enable another creature type to sac, and just keep it around.
Edit: Nope, changed my mind again. We can hack a Firewake Sliver, but each "Sliver" activation will only be able to target one creature type, so we don't get the possibility of bouncing multiple cards with the same activation. So I believe it's okay.
If one resolve of II is enough, then I guess we get five full SSA casts? For something like BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1} (BB_{w^3 + w3 + 1}(5)) or so.