Those are fair points. I guess at the very least I'll stop linking to DeckStats ports of my lists in my primers.
Some notes - apparently my WB deck still features some green, and the lands that aren't green are apparently colourless. Also, given the fact that your pie charts are highlightable and clickable and something happens when you click, it'd be nice if it'd, say, bring up that selection of cards or something.
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Dec 16, 2017Rumpy5897 posted a message on MTGSalvation's Deckbuilder is Here!Will there be an easy way to back-port 2-3 years' worth of discussion, change logs etc?Posted in: Articles
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Dec 16, 2017Rumpy5897 posted a message on MTGSalvation's Deckbuilder is Here!I tossed my Daxos primer list up on it for fun, pieces are still green, the order of the cards within sections feels frankly random, all the enchantment creatures went to live with the enchantments. Not sure what's the point of the printing specification, or how to control it when pasting a list (i.e. 95+% use cases of the thing). Not really sure this was needed, in all honesty, given the fact the forums exist and have decks.Posted in: Articles
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Arguing in favour of a land that makes colourless in a deck as drastically colour-intensive as Feather because opening a hand with a two-drop rock lets you play it turn one doesn't really check out, sorry. Note that the literal actual signet is the only one that nets you more than one coloured from this elaborate operation. I run Reliquary Tower as the only non-coloured land in my mana base.
That said, the sort of decks that want Reliquary Tower are indeed quite few and far in between. They're the ones that count on sheer card quantity to get the job done, or draw scarcely and massively. The opportunity cost of running it may be low, but that doesn't make it worth an automatic shoe-in.
Speed for speed's sake is not the most crucial when getting Feather out. You've got stuff to play, spells to recycle, shuffling a treasure token into your deck is really not where you want to be. However, I never got in proper testing of the zero-drop rocks I don't run. As such, I repeatedly fished up six-card hands (pretending to hold a Mox Diamond), and evaluated the Diamond against Coldsteel Heart, i.e. the only CIPT two-drop rock left in the list. The hand had three turns to get out Feather with protection mana up, as the current rock does that. Four outcomes were tallied: a turn two Feather, a turn three Feather with the Diamond mana accelerating a pre-Feather play that would not have otherwise happened, a plain turn three Feather (equivalent to the Heart), and failure to produce a Feather (at this point the Heart would be superior). Sol Ring starts did not actually change that much here, as the Heart reality would still have insufficient coloured to Feather turn two. One hundred hands later:
1 Coldsteel Heart
1 Mox Diamond
However, I maintain that the other cheap-as-hell rocks I'm not running are not worth the space here. Of the 100 hands tested, a whopping seven would have supported an early Mox Opal.
Coincidentally, I just had a slightly different mode of interaction with the committee - a comment of mine made it perfectly clear I'm extremely bbcode-green, to what the response I received featured small excerpts of my primer reworked into a style that was to the reviewer's liking. This was nothing short of fantastic. The reviewer got to solidify their concept of how the rework should appear, while simultaneously providing tag guidance for village idiots like yours truly. I feel this sort of assistance should be explicitly advertised when offering feedback, and it would help things along considerably.
So yeah, if the review process were to focus on content, and formatting reworks came with the explicit possibility of guidance, the process would probably be significantly closer to painless.
You could just look into Phenax, you know. There's a fantastic primer about him on the boards.
Eventually, I got smitten enough by Feather, the Redeemed to go for it. I mirrored my Daxos primer in layout, wrote everything up carefully while keeping in mind the content feedback I got last time around. It came back with stylistic change requests.
I'm aware of some builds that are primer-worthy and well maintained, but the authors are just unwilling to put up with this process. I can't blame them. I'm picking up some similarities to peer review in academia, where reviewers tend to suggest stuff for the sake of suggesting stuff. If we're going to be this picky about layout, create a gold standard template that people can copy-paste and fill out to get around the stylistic requirements.
I need to add Gamble to the primer, yes. I also need to add a note about Gemstone Caverns. There's a finite amount of cards one can recall while typing this stuff up, thanks for the catch.
Meteor Golem is better than Mangara of Corondor in most situations. Mangara fits my rattlesnake'y play style more, whereas I'd often keep the Golem back for various reasons. I don't feel particularly comfortable chainsawing removal with this build - I'm already pretty untouchable given the protection options and constant draw (just had a game where I was archenemy'd by two of my meta's stronger decks, eating tons of removal to various pieces and all the combat swings, and I barely noticed and won the game through all the disruption), if I start crapping on everybody else's stuff too reliably everybody's going to escalate from grumpy to mad.
Seriously, just try Chrome Mox. It's perfectly fine. The other Moxen that are not in here, not so much.
Aria of Flame is solid, it takes less spells than Guttersnipe to maul a four-man pod. I have been bumping my win cons a bit, as the whole draw/scry apparatus is efficient and this way I spend less time stalling in dig mode, trying to find something. Also I'm less boned if someone interacts the wincon out.
Reckless Rage is a very good include, I'm straying from it for the whole "don't maul people while being unmaulable yourself" reasons. I've quite liked Psychotic Fury, but I can see your reasoning. Can't spread it to the team with Zadas, for one.
The new Mox is not of relevance here, yes.
But yeah, it's MH1 time. Never before in my five year EDH career has a fresh set deposited so many new cards into a single deck. In fairness, you can tell a lot of this was made with Feather in mind, and a few are fleshed out cycles from way back when that Boros happily absorbs. The ease with which all these swaps came together leads me to believe that there's still room in the list to tune it up.
1 Chaos Warp
1 Cloudshift
1 Mountain
1 Star Compass
1 Tenth District Legionnaire
1 Titan's Strength
1 Aria of Flame
1 Ephemerate
1 Fists of Flame
1 Generous Gift
1 Sunbaked Canyon
1 Talisman of Conviction
All of these are essentially 1:1 swaps, so let's present them as such.
Apart from some potential swap musings upstream, I'm considering decreasing the volume of the protection suite a bit more. The fact I was just gifted a second Cloudshift and chose to only run one leads me to believe I could consider trimming it down a bit. We'll see.