I'm still playing 2 copies in the board. I've also completely removed crusader from my list as recent iterations of Shadow online have been playing young pyromancer and bolt.
Don't hate the idea. Any time after 5 mountain time for me. I also have my list built on MTGO. With slight changes to the sideboard due to the difference in metas
I'm definitely on 2 Explosives and am not going back until I see a meta shift. The cards so good in our bad matchups. I'm just struggling with hard control and any Valakut based deck. I'm consistently 4-1 ing friendly leagues on MTGO I just need to find a way to push through Valakut and Control. Any suqqesrions are good. I'd prefer flexible cards though. I'm in bant
Can't speak for him but I tried it myself and it's pretty horrible. Even against burn you can't block with it the turn it comes down and by the time you want to actually attack with it it's bolted or searing blazed. Ive gone back to Kazandu Blademaster. A 2/2 First Strike Vigilance creature that can accidentally grow itself in multiples is actually fairly solid in our bad matchups of Burn and Elves.
It's been said a bunch of times in this thread RW and Mono W Humans are fine if you're playing them for budget reasons. How ever they are just worse then the other aggro decks in the format like zoo and elves. The Reason Bant plus is playable is because of the disruption elements combined with an aggressive clock.
(Edit- I went back a page and found it. We're actually quite different in our lists)
Headminerve. Just curious what your lists looks like and what cuts you made to squeeze in GBI. I believe we likely came to similar conclusions independently of each other by your previous comments.
The UW list seems like a very slightly upgraded mono White list. I think almost everyone has moved away from it unless for budget concerns.
The W & UW versions have very little play to them. You're a go wide aggro deck like affinity but without the resilience in cards like Ravager and Etched Champion. You're also similar to bushwhacker zoo but with less reach (lighting bolt, Attarkas Command)
The Bant Plus decks can bring an aggressive start in Champion of the Parish but can also play a grindy attrition game.
From green we get Horizon Canopy, Gavony Township, Renegade Rallier, Eternal Witness, Mayor of Avabruck, Noble Heirarch, Avacyns Pilgrim, Tireless Tracker, and Collected Company.
Not all of these cards make the list but they're all options that can let us play through removal and play that grindy game.
If none of the other cards Heirarch is a beast. It does literally everything the deck wants.
I feel part of the reason for the lack of discussion here is that the deck is so modular. Scrolling through the forum there's like 5 different decks that all just happen to play Champion and Lieutenant.
It's easier to have a discussion when someone has 4 cards different from you. You can ask why they chose x over y. It's a lot harder when you're on Bant Humans and a bunch of the posts are mono white lists.
I've been testing a 2 of Rhonas in Bant humans. He replaced silver blade paladin. Rhonas gets hit by company and completely dismantles Deaths Shadow and Junk. He's instant speed +2/+0 and trample has been incredible for pushing damage through on your huge Champions of the parish that would be otherwise chump blocked.
I am fairly new to the deck but I am wondering why no one is playing Snap Castermage. Wouldn't a two of snap caster be better then 2 manic scribes in the above deck?
I get the point behind the grave Titan loop but the tokens aren't hasty. Let's you get blown out by a board wipe or ensnaring bridge. I guess I like the cutthroat simply because it just wins the game on the spot. I guess I should note that I am not running the through the breach version so Grave Titan beats isn't really a thing for me.
I guess maybe it's a meta thing for me. We actually have 2 lantern decks locally. Thanks for the response though. Just got into the deck I think there's a lot of space to improve the deck.
Headminerve. Just curious what your lists looks like and what cuts you made to squeeze in GBI. I believe we likely came to similar conclusions independently of each other by your previous comments.
The W & UW versions have very little play to them. You're a go wide aggro deck like affinity but without the resilience in cards like Ravager and Etched Champion. You're also similar to bushwhacker zoo but with less reach (lighting bolt, Attarkas Command)
The Bant Plus decks can bring an aggressive start in Champion of the Parish but can also play a grindy attrition game.
From green we get Horizon Canopy, Gavony Township, Renegade Rallier, Eternal Witness, Mayor of Avabruck, Noble Heirarch, Avacyns Pilgrim, Tireless Tracker, and Collected Company.
Not all of these cards make the list but they're all options that can let us play through removal and play that grindy game.
If none of the other cards Heirarch is a beast. It does literally everything the deck wants.
It's easier to have a discussion when someone has 4 cards different from you. You can ask why they chose x over y. It's a lot harder when you're on Bant Humans and a bunch of the posts are mono white lists.