Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can explain if I can or cannot interrupt the Fastbond, Crucible of Worlds, Strip Mine combo with an active Relic of Progenitus.
Basically situation would play out in their main phase as my opponent is not foolish enough to pop his strip mine at any other time. He has Crucible of Worlds, Fastbond and Strip Mine in play.
He starts by tapping and sacrificing the mine to hit my lone land, I respond by tapping relic to remove the mine from his graveyard since sacrificing it is part of the cost for his land destruction ability, can he respond by playing the mine out of his graveyard so that by the time my Relic ability resolves the mine is no longer a legal target in his graveyard?
I'm unsure of the timing on playing lands since they do not use the stack, I know typically one cannot respond to spell or ability by deciding to play a land even if it is their main phase and they elected to pass priority before playing their first land. But crucible/fastbond make the land playing nearly unlimited provided he has enough life and all he really needs is priority to play the land given the Fastbond Crucible combo. So I guess the question is on wether or not he gets priority after I put the relic ability on the stack and it resolves and if he is able to play a land at that time before the resolution.
I see this set as missed opportunities for quality and playable cards in a cool setting after a promising build up in story from Scars. Highly disappointed with the final spoiler.
The flame is completely justified for such a ridiculous statement. As far as humans should be concerned we achieved even sided conflict when the two major players of the Cold War became capable of destroying the world once over. Not that they could not do it hundreds of times now.
Compete in other ways, also National pride in war eventually leads to nationalism. Do not know how you decided that either the war or the nationalism was a good thing.
What good is your progress to us when we are all dead, I'm already extremely displeased that we have so many old men with their fingers on the button. I'm truly sorry if it's so unreasonable to not trust every politician who could blow us straight to hell.
I think there will def be a boost in 5C control but at the same time I think that WW/ or white control will come in and balance the meta game by containing 5C which should allow for other archetypes to sneak in and compete. Kind of like playing decks that beat the deck (White) which beats the top deck (5C). Just speculation for now though.
Hey Guys, I am interested in building the deck and I was wondering are there any viable builds that do not use Jitte it seems consistent in the deck but I am failing to recognize what puts it over the top in this deck vs. what it does in just about every creature deck.
Simply making bombs doesn't harm others either but we know what bombs are for, and we know what cigarettes do despite having a "calming" effect on addicts.
Cigarettes might not be bombs but to say its my life and what I do with it in terms of smoking is ridiculous since the smoking often affects children and families, and the fact is far too many believe that smoking being harmful is a hoax for what ever illogical reason.
Maybe you personally are a responsible smoker or people you know are but the bottom line is that far too many are not and they are harming others through a pointless and unhealthy activity.
Harm caused by smokers to others might be unintentional and completely removed from an intent to harm but it does exist.
Hi guys I'm considering building this deck but I am a little unclear on how the Blink card works, for example why does it not destroy tokens when you remove them from the game, how does it save managra if the creature leaves and renters play before mangaras ability resolves. (this may be due to the ruling i read when the creature leaves play and returns it is not the "same" creature) and I suppose this is also a means of saving him from spot removal as the target is invalid even though its him. Also for card draw I was considering Think twice. Good bad? And what about the new glittering wish could this help us in anyway or is it simply inefficient.
Hi guys, I keep slipping in and out of magic but the consistency I always play goblins. Decided to look into some new cards now and I'll post my list I feel its unfinished as I really do not know what to do here.
Land base is constantly changing so lets say 20 Lands.
Now I have
8 open slots.
Currently I've been testing Goblin Grenade and its a hit or miss. Either it wins it or it's a dead card. I like the flavor but from playing its hardly optimal. My other experiments have involved Overload and Shatterspree for artifact hate and Mogg war Marshal.
Im really still looking for artifact hate that isnt dead in my hand against decks that lack them and I came across Fury Charm, as I like to keep this mono red what are your opinions on this as it gives trample for the pile driver or takes out the artifact. I havent found a use for the last ability yet =). Opinions?
The Mogg War Marshal seems like he could make a good substitue for Mogg alarm with a Goblin Ringleader but I generally prefer to not run him as my deck tends to run other non goblins. I'm torn however as I really like the alternate cost on Alarm and Ive used it effectively on the third turn with a War Chief and Pile driver in play.
I cannot really make a case for the grenade I am very close to cutting it, and blood lust I have been desperately defending. It's come through for me numerous times but I just don't know.
So what do you guys make of the Grenade/Blood Lust inclusion and of the new War Marshal and Fury Charm?
Well Jaya is sick, not broken but a rly good card. The angel for certain decks is obscene. I dont understand why so many ppl dont like it but I think its cuz you guys see aggro and weenie in the new format as being a tempo beat down, quick (ie Zoo or Gruul). But weenie can be played in diff ways. Back when ud take the board and then Armageddon or sumtimes drop Wrath to start up cuz u had such efficient creatures to reset while ur opponents invested mana in large or flashy abilitis. AND HOLY **** Look how efficient that angel is on the reset for a board. You may not see it now but that Angel is a GOOD card and Id be pleased opening it anytime.
Hi guys Havent posted in a while you may remember me from NO stick thread. Many thnx for all advice there worked like a charm =). BUt now Im PLaying TNN and Have some problems.
This time I know the meta unfortunately its shaped by vengeance. Meaning ppl are playing two decks that beat My TNN over and over despite the fact they are degenerate in the format.
Originally I only had problems with Scepter, but subbing out Moment's peace for naturalize tipped the favor to me. My Build was identical to Goodman's.
Using Trisk/Vampire. THEN showed up someone with a new deck, no major archetype not for Ext anyway. Basicly its all about untargetable permanents and creatures aggro. It beat me and several ppl took it up to repeat the event. So I had to scrap the Trisk/Vampire and Not heeding your advice from way back in the thread I decided to play the Kiki-Hussar combo and just block the untargetable creatures over and over until I beat them down (The deck ran worship so the game went on for a while till I got Slaver and forced em into a full attack so I could block and kill em) this scenario was repeated several times and they also ran Jungle barriers so I couldnt make all their creatures attack. (O Stone solved that).
Then a wonderous Burn display killed my Kiki and stopped the Hussar combo (wonderous cuz he had 1 card in hand, I had no more Moments Peace and the board wus stacked, so I went for the Kill) His 1 card was a Shock. Then when ppl saw that alot of BDW showed up and 2 Zoo conversions from standard and a bunch of Fires Builds. Thus I found out what was said before about Kiki-Hussar.
I dont expect this will be the meta in tourney's if its even ext. But I cant make it there If i dont get past these guys. I cant play Hussar-Kiki for reasons you know full well and I cant play Trisk/Vampire due to all the untargetable decks. Also I dont want Vampire or Hussar (I hate thier hand clogging ability with a passion)
The deck now stands exactly Like Goodman's minus 1 Talisman of Unity.
I need three creatures preferably finishers. MY thoughts were 1 Extra titan (lotsa basic multicolour around). and 2 Duplicants or maybe 2 Angels or Angel/Abunas. I would playtest these before posting but I cant beacuse if I do where I intend to actually play they will just adjust their decks to beat whatever I come up with and the only other people I can play dont have Ext decks so I would have to play vs casual vintage or standard and thats not the kind of results I can put to use for productive strategy adjustment.
I dint mean some great union of nations doing whats right, the whole situation is too volatile and could have reprecussions world wide. Out of personal interest whether acting under the UN banner or a formed coalition the superpowers should impose their will on the conflict and subdue it rather then take sides, this isnt about ideal solutions where no one gets hurt its about making them stop now before its too late. It is my personal opinion and I doubt many will agree that this has gone on long enuff and should be stopped no matter the costs now, as the conseqeunce for allowing it to continue and the need to stop it later will cost us all alot more in the not too distant future.
Also for my opponent can I use the Clique to just see their hand and if I do not choose anything, will they get to draw a card?
Or am I not allowed to choose nothing when after I've picked a target with cards in hand and have seen that hand?
Thanks very much for any insight.
Basically situation would play out in their main phase as my opponent is not foolish enough to pop his strip mine at any other time. He has Crucible of Worlds, Fastbond and Strip Mine in play.
He starts by tapping and sacrificing the mine to hit my lone land, I respond by tapping relic to remove the mine from his graveyard since sacrificing it is part of the cost for his land destruction ability, can he respond by playing the mine out of his graveyard so that by the time my Relic ability resolves the mine is no longer a legal target in his graveyard?
I'm unsure of the timing on playing lands since they do not use the stack, I know typically one cannot respond to spell or ability by deciding to play a land even if it is their main phase and they elected to pass priority before playing their first land. But crucible/fastbond make the land playing nearly unlimited provided he has enough life and all he really needs is priority to play the land given the Fastbond Crucible combo. So I guess the question is on wether or not he gets priority after I put the relic ability on the stack and it resolves and if he is able to play a land at that time before the resolution.
The flame is completely justified for such a ridiculous statement. As far as humans should be concerned we achieved even sided conflict when the two major players of the Cold War became capable of destroying the world once over. Not that they could not do it hundreds of times now.
Compete in other ways, also National pride in war eventually leads to nationalism. Do not know how you decided that either the war or the nationalism was a good thing.
What good is your progress to us when we are all dead, I'm already extremely displeased that we have so many old men with their fingers on the button. I'm truly sorry if it's so unreasonable to not trust every politician who could blow us straight to hell.
Cigarettes might not be bombs but to say its my life and what I do with it in terms of smoking is ridiculous since the smoking often affects children and families, and the fact is far too many believe that smoking being harmful is a hoax for what ever illogical reason.
Maybe you personally are a responsible smoker or people you know are but the bottom line is that far too many are not and they are harming others through a pointless and unhealthy activity.
Harm caused by smokers to others might be unintentional and completely removed from an intent to harm but it does exist.
I run something like this.
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Warchief
3 Gempalm Incinerator
3 Mogg Alarm
3 Blood Lust
3 Pyrokinesis
2 Goblin King
2 Siege-gang Commander
Land base is constantly changing so lets say 20 Lands.
Now I have
8 open slots.
Currently I've been testing Goblin Grenade and its a hit or miss. Either it wins it or it's a dead card. I like the flavor but from playing its hardly optimal. My other experiments have involved Overload and Shatterspree for artifact hate and Mogg war Marshal.
Im really still looking for artifact hate that isnt dead in my hand against decks that lack them and I came across Fury Charm, as I like to keep this mono red what are your opinions on this as it gives trample for the pile driver or takes out the artifact. I havent found a use for the last ability yet =). Opinions?
The Mogg War Marshal seems like he could make a good substitue for Mogg alarm with a Goblin Ringleader but I generally prefer to not run him as my deck tends to run other non goblins. I'm torn however as I really like the alternate cost on Alarm and Ive used it effectively on the third turn with a War Chief and Pile driver in play.
I cannot really make a case for the grenade I am very close to cutting it, and blood lust I have been desperately defending. It's come through for me numerous times but I just don't know.
So what do you guys make of the Grenade/Blood Lust inclusion and of the new War Marshal and Fury Charm?
This time I know the meta unfortunately its shaped by vengeance. Meaning ppl are playing two decks that beat My TNN over and over despite the fact they are degenerate in the format.
Originally I only had problems with Scepter, but subbing out Moment's peace for naturalize tipped the favor to me. My Build was identical to Goodman's.
Using Trisk/Vampire. THEN showed up someone with a new deck, no major archetype not for Ext anyway. Basicly its all about untargetable permanents and creatures aggro. It beat me and several ppl took it up to repeat the event. So I had to scrap the Trisk/Vampire and Not heeding your advice from way back in the thread I decided to play the Kiki-Hussar combo and just block the untargetable creatures over and over until I beat them down (The deck ran worship so the game went on for a while till I got Slaver and forced em into a full attack so I could block and kill em) this scenario was repeated several times and they also ran Jungle barriers so I couldnt make all their creatures attack. (O Stone solved that).
Then a wonderous Burn display killed my Kiki and stopped the Hussar combo (wonderous cuz he had 1 card in hand, I had no more Moments Peace and the board wus stacked, so I went for the Kill) His 1 card was a Shock. Then when ppl saw that alot of BDW showed up and 2 Zoo conversions from standard and a bunch of Fires Builds. Thus I found out what was said before about Kiki-Hussar.
I dont expect this will be the meta in tourney's if its even ext. But I cant make it there If i dont get past these guys. I cant play Hussar-Kiki for reasons you know full well and I cant play Trisk/Vampire due to all the untargetable decks. Also I dont want Vampire or Hussar (I hate thier hand clogging ability with a passion)
The deck now stands exactly Like Goodman's minus 1 Talisman of Unity.
I need three creatures preferably finishers. MY thoughts were 1 Extra titan (lotsa basic multicolour around). and 2 Duplicants or maybe 2 Angels or Angel/Abunas. I would playtest these before posting but I cant beacuse if I do where I intend to actually play they will just adjust their decks to beat whatever I come up with and the only other people I can play dont have Ext decks so I would have to play vs casual vintage or standard and thats not the kind of results I can put to use for productive strategy adjustment.