Looking at putting this deck together. I had one question though. Why does no one add in Iona/Unburial combo? After Putting the stock list together I had 6 flex spots left and could not figure out why a combo this powerful for the cost of 2 flex spots was not being added. Is it because a skilled storm player does not need this and is better served adding cards that add consistency to the combo rather then a plan b wincon?
These special expeditions will eventually not be special anymore and retailers wont open extra sealed finding them. This will cause standard to go up in price a little bit. They should have just done this when the future league indicated a high number of standard staples in a particular set. It's not ruined but I do think there has been extra money grabbing lately. We need time to enjoy sets instead of being thrown new product, after new product every month. Also it's kinda becoming a joke that the enemy fetches haven't been reprinted yet.
What are our options for dealing with enchantments? I couldn't find a colorless or red answer. Is splashing green our only option for dealing with them? If you splash green what options become available to goblins besides good enchantment hate?
The more I play with the Goblin Piledriver the less I like it. I mean He is ok but he only shines when your playing Merfolk or in a game where pro blue is relevant. As a 2 of in my deck I am thinking more and more that a Signal Pest would be more effective. I think the Piledriver may soon become purely a SB card in a heavy blue meta.
@ Dutchmen - I like the idea of the Contested War Zone I'm just scared of it being the only land in my opening hand. A one mountain hand is fine on the draw but a utility land is not.
@ Potroque - Thanks for your ideas on the SB. I think Electrickery should make it in there at least as Lingering Souls is very strong against my deck. Also I highly recommend Burning-Tree Emissary he adds so much explosion to the deck it's unreal. Turn 1 denizen turn two emissary into a reckless bushwhacker is very real and sets up a potential turn 3 kill. The green mana can be awkward sometimes but it's worth it for sure.
@ Potroque - It's not used because it has no effect on the battlefield. It's damage when your opponent is stable and can afford to take it and it's three cards and loose the turn otherwise. Most goblin decks don't want to loose the tempo for any value. Browbeat is a trap IMO.
Also I'm dusting this goblin deck off and taking it to an FNM. If anyone has any input that would be cool. I haven't played the deck or modern since oath came out. I know Goblin Guide is an upgrade over Tattermunge Maniac. I'll make that happen once they reprint him. I'm looking mainly for SB ideas and for any new idea that may have come about since I last played it.
Humans, collected company, and control ft. Jace is the meta. Or it was, will have to see what people do but I will stay on Eldrazi till they rotate in either case.
I like the explosiveness the mimic provides. The Mindbender is decent so far. My testing is limited and momo w humans is big at my shop. Endless One or more removal is actually better then Mindbender there I think. I use the vestige because my meta is very fast and I need bb turn 2 consistently. I'm not sure I even like Mirrorpool in this deck. I feel like not curving out because my fourth or fifth land is a tap land it would be too much unnecessary tempo loss. I think ruin of oran rief and blighted fen are both better anyway.
This is what i'll be testing out. Been on Eldrazi now since oath came out. I never MD hand disruption in my meta because humans was too big and the removal kills Jace before transforming anyway. I feel like the Distended Mindbender brings everything together for me. I think even a turn 5 Distended Mindbender off of a Bearer of Silence though not optimal will be good enough.
I have seen the artifact list. I liked it but in the end I decided goblins was better for a few reasons. 1) the abundant hate in the format for artifacts. 2) Both decks nut draws are a turn 3 kill. 3) goblin bomb gives goblins better reach. 4) over time goblins get better. I like signal pest though ill be trying him out in my list! I forgot he was a thing.
@mikelarruaba - Yes I noticed the burningtree wardriver dissynergy its one reason why I am only testing him.
@mparodi3391 - I think BW tokens is one of your toughest matchup. Lingering souls in general stinks for all the decks presented here.
After some testing with my playgroup I came up with this list. The main thing I have been struggling with is I don't know if Goblin Piledriver is better than Goblin Wardriver. The Wardriver seems perfect for this deck because of how wide we are going, however I feel against a larger field the Piledriver is stronger.
Budget 8 Whack deck. It was a goblin deck with a few more land and three Goblin Chieftain's in there but I seen the 8 whack video for playing on a budget this week and decided my goblin deck should be more like Kevin's so I cut a few lands and added the playset of burning-tree's. So far it's been great. It's very fast. Clearly a playset of Goblin Guide would make the deck stronger, but I think I'll wait on the reprint(*Cough, Cough*). So until then this is one of the decks I'm using for modern. Does anyone have any other ideas to improve the deck or anything I should be considering for the SB?
4 Toolcraft Exemplar
4 Vault Skirge
4 Kor Duelist
2 Leonin Shikari
4 Puresteel Paladin
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
Equipment
4 Bonesplitter
3 Basilisk Collar
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Steelshaper's Gift
Instant
4 Path to Exile
Land
20 Plains
2 Mirran Crusader
1 Leonin Shikari
3 Rest in Peace
3 Kor Firewalker
2 Runed Halo
1 Loxodon Warhammer
3 Kataki, War's Wage
Really was just wondering if there is a deck like this floating around that has put up results. If not any ideas on making this one better?
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 Goblin Guide
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Vault Skirge
4 Signal Pest
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
4 Kuldotha Rebirth
1 Devastating Summons
Enchantment
4 Ensoul Artifact
Land
1 Contested War Zone
4 Darksteel Citadel
2 Mountain
4 Steam Vents
4 Sulfur Falls
4 Shivan Reef
@ Dutchmen - I like the idea of the Contested War Zone I'm just scared of it being the only land in my opening hand. A one mountain hand is fine on the draw but a utility land is not.
@ Potroque - Thanks for your ideas on the SB. I think Electrickery should make it in there at least as Lingering Souls is very strong against my deck. Also I highly recommend Burning-Tree Emissary he adds so much explosion to the deck it's unreal. Turn 1 denizen turn two emissary into a reckless bushwhacker is very real and sets up a potential turn 3 kill. The green mana can be awkward sometimes but it's worth it for sure.
Also I'm dusting this goblin deck off and taking it to an FNM. If anyone has any input that would be cool. I haven't played the deck or modern since oath came out. I know Goblin Guide is an upgrade over Tattermunge Maniac. I'll make that happen once they reprint him. I'm looking mainly for SB ideas and for any new idea that may have come about since I last played it.
4 Foundry Street Denizen
3 Mogg Fanatic
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
2 Goblin Piledriver
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Lightning Bolt
Sorcery
4 Goblin Grenade
1 Devastating Summons
Land
18 Mountain
4 Smash to Smithereens
3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Goblin Piledriver
2 Magmatic Chasm
3 Skullcrack
2 Dismember
4 Bearer of Silence
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher
4 Distended Mindbender
2 Endless One
Instant
4 Grasp of Darkness
2 Ultimate Price
2 Spatial Contortion
2 Ruinous Path
Land
10 Swamp
3 Llanowar Wastes
3 Caves of Koilos
4 Crumbling Vestige
2 Blighted Fen
2 Ruins of Oran-Rief
3 Warping Wail
4 Duress
3 Transgress the Mind
2 Spatial Contortion
2 Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 Ruinous Path
This is what i'll be testing out. Been on Eldrazi now since oath came out. I never MD hand disruption in my meta because humans was too big and the removal kills Jace before transforming anyway. I feel like the Distended Mindbender brings everything together for me. I think even a turn 5 Distended Mindbender off of a Bearer of Silence though not optimal will be good enough.
@mikelarruaba - Yes I noticed the burningtree wardriver dissynergy its one reason why I am only testing him.
@mparodi3391 - I think BW tokens is one of your toughest matchup. Lingering souls in general stinks for all the decks presented here.
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Legion Loyalist
3 Mogg Fanatic
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Mogg War Marshal
2 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Grenade
1 Devastating Summons
Instant
4 Lightning Bolt
Land
18 Mountain
4 Smash to Smithereens
3 Tormod's Crypt
1 Goblin Piledriver
3 Magmatic Chasm
2 Skullcrack
2 Dismember
After some testing with my playgroup I came up with this list. The main thing I have been struggling with is I don't know if Goblin Piledriver is better than Goblin Wardriver. The Wardriver seems perfect for this deck because of how wide we are going, however I feel against a larger field the Piledriver is stronger.
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Legion Loyalist
2 Goblin Arsonist
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Reckless Bushwhacker
4 Lightning Bolt
Sorcery
4 Goblin Grenade
Land
18 Mountain
4 Smash to Smithereens
3 Dragon's Claw
3 Searing Blood
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Goblin Rabblemaster
Budget 8 Whack deck. It was a goblin deck with a few more land and three Goblin Chieftain's in there but I seen the 8 whack video for playing on a budget this week and decided my goblin deck should be more like Kevin's so I cut a few lands and added the playset of burning-tree's. So far it's been great. It's very fast. Clearly a playset of Goblin Guide would make the deck stronger, but I think I'll wait on the reprint(*Cough, Cough*). So until then this is one of the decks I'm using for modern. Does anyone have any other ideas to improve the deck or anything I should be considering for the SB?