It seems its on its own RW in modern is just kiki-jiki and resto getting value out of cards like blade splicer, bellringer and wall of omens. And you either run the Twin or Blood Moon gimmick to make it strong enough to fight tier 1 decks.
Im looking to pick up the deck but whats the strongest variant?
Twin version?
Blood moon version? I feel like Id never get to play my white cards if I had bloodmoon on the field.
Twin AND Bloodmoon in a deck?
Im going to ask this question to both MBControl and MBDevotion/Aggro players. What do you think of Spiteful Returned in the deck?
A guy recommended it to me as tech and I was thinking of replacing bloodghast or some bloodghasts for it. Is it too slow for modern?
I feel like I'm overlooking something for it and see it through rose-tinted glasses. In other words, discourage me to use this card and give me reasons why its bad
Oh thank you! Yes that made more sense and helped alot Without the geths, Id have 2 Dash hopes and 2 grasp of darkness for spell removal. Do you think thats enough?
Thanks Ricosaur! Yea Im going to drop Griselbrand. Is 3 Gary too many or cloggy?
Also I didnt understand what you meant in the last sentence, did you mean increase Lilly and drop Geths? What did you mean its better for card value and devotion?
This is my first post on this site so I wasn't sure if I was supposed to post this as an entirely new thread or in an existing one with a name similar to the concept of mine.
As you can guess, my deck is also Mono Black Aggro/Midrange, with devotion as a mechanic used. I posted my list on reddit to get some advice and I was directed here for better discussion ^^ Here is my list for starters.
4x Bloodghast
4x Geralf's Messenger
3x Gatekeeper of Malakir
2x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Griselbrand
I guess Ill go through some of the choices:
The creatures themselves are pretty similar to the ones seen in this thread. Only one I'm iffy about is Griselbrand. He seems to be there for no real reason, has anyone playing him in this deck ever actually cast him? Also has anyone tried any less than 3 or 4 of Gray Merchant? Ive just started playing 2 and can't decide if I should switch it up to 3.
As for spells, I opted to take out 2 victim of the night for 2 Dash hopes. Some new tech! I felt like go for the throat and smother (my two other removal spells) didn't offer as much coverage. Dash hopes seems to be great and adds a 'blue control' aspect to the deck. I added grasp of darkness instead of dismember since often times you'll want to pay dismember with life and with Arena/Bitterblossom/Thoughtseize Id be paying too much life. Finally we have Geth's verdict. Out of the 4 removal spells Victim/Geth/Grasp/Dash, Im still unsure what the best number of removal spells to put in each deck is and which ones to choose.
I think bitterblossom gets its own lil section since I feel its the wildcard of this deck. While everything else seems pretty standard, Im really not sold on bitterblossom. Its been performing....fine but other than that nothing special. For that I took it down from 3 to 2. Only thing I can say is with this deck, both you and your opponent will be losing life fast and your goal is to make them lose their life faster and bitterblossom does help with its tokens.
If anyones tested it or has anything to say about the card in this deck I'd love to know.
Finally, quick question of the lands. Is that many swamps really needed? Im still not used to deck ratios but I was under the impression 16 swamps with 2 urbogs and 3 nykthos was already more than anyone would ever need.
Possible additions to the deck to think about
- Spiteful Returned. Normally you'd just play it as enchantment and attack so they lose 2 life.
- Tribute to Hunger. a 3cmc geth's except you gain life. Might offset the intense life loss for the pilot in this deck
http://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/29wdxd/white_moon/
and when searching for something similar I found this thread.
It seems its on its own RW in modern is just kiki-jiki and resto getting value out of cards like blade splicer, bellringer and wall of omens. And you either run the Twin or Blood Moon gimmick to make it strong enough to fight tier 1 decks.
Im looking to pick up the deck but whats the strongest variant?
Twin version?
Blood moon version? I feel like Id never get to play my white cards if I had bloodmoon on the field.
Twin AND Bloodmoon in a deck?
Mutilate
Dismember
Grasp of Darkness
Bile Blight
This could be the next card to put in
A guy recommended it to me as tech and I was thinking of replacing bloodghast or some bloodghasts for it. Is it too slow for modern?
I feel like I'm overlooking something for it and see it through rose-tinted glasses. In other words, discourage me to use this card and give me reasons why its bad
Also what is your opinion on bitterblossom?
Also I didnt understand what you meant in the last sentence, did you mean increase Lilly and drop Geths? What did you mean its better for card value and devotion?
As you can guess, my deck is also Mono Black Aggro/Midrange, with devotion as a mechanic used. I posted my list on reddit to get some advice and I was directed here for better discussion ^^ Here is my list for starters.
4x Bloodghast
4x Geralf's Messenger
3x Gatekeeper of Malakir
2x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Griselbrand
3x Thoughtseize
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Grasp of Darkness
2x Geth's Verdict
2x Dash Hopes
3x Phyrexian Arena
2x Bitterblossom
2x Liliana
2x Urborg
18x Swamp
3x Nykthos, Shrine of Nyx
I guess Ill go through some of the choices:
The creatures themselves are pretty similar to the ones seen in this thread. Only one I'm iffy about is Griselbrand. He seems to be there for no real reason, has anyone playing him in this deck ever actually cast him? Also has anyone tried any less than 3 or 4 of Gray Merchant? Ive just started playing 2 and can't decide if I should switch it up to 3.
As for spells, I opted to take out 2 victim of the night for 2 Dash hopes. Some new tech! I felt like go for the throat and smother (my two other removal spells) didn't offer as much coverage. Dash hopes seems to be great and adds a 'blue control' aspect to the deck. I added grasp of darkness instead of dismember since often times you'll want to pay dismember with life and with Arena/Bitterblossom/Thoughtseize Id be paying too much life. Finally we have Geth's verdict. Out of the 4 removal spells Victim/Geth/Grasp/Dash, Im still unsure what the best number of removal spells to put in each deck is and which ones to choose.
I think bitterblossom gets its own lil section since I feel its the wildcard of this deck. While everything else seems pretty standard, Im really not sold on bitterblossom. Its been performing....fine but other than that nothing special. For that I took it down from 3 to 2. Only thing I can say is with this deck, both you and your opponent will be losing life fast and your goal is to make them lose their life faster and bitterblossom does help with its tokens.
If anyones tested it or has anything to say about the card in this deck I'd love to know.
Finally, quick question of the lands. Is that many swamps really needed? Im still not used to deck ratios but I was under the impression 16 swamps with 2 urbogs and 3 nykthos was already more than anyone would ever need.
Possible additions to the deck to think about
- Spiteful Returned. Normally you'd just play it as enchantment and attack so they lose 2 life.
- Tribute to Hunger. a 3cmc geth's except you gain life. Might offset the intense life loss for the pilot in this deck
Thanks for reading!