The deck list is simple, resembles mono black with confidants, rituals and discard spells. I wanted the 12 best infect creatures in the deck, sadly there is really only one great infect creature, Crusader. Icor rats is ok with unearth and plague stinger has flying. All 16 creatures are under 3cc so unearth seems solid behind using discard to pin point exile removal and counter spells. Invigorate and unspeakable sysmbol are the best two pump spells for the deck. I could be wrong about Invigorate but gaining 3 life for 4 counters is worth the splash alone. Sysmbol has that Hatred feel to it witch VS zoo is well… poor, but Dark Triumph or Rouse seem to be a ok replacement, plus triumph is more speed VS the control and combo field.
It’s a work in progress, maybe with New Phyrexia new cards will come and another infect creature like crusader…is that asking to much?
I look at the ***** as a humor thing. Its funny. haha lol. Its not to be taken heavy. I look at it like jannets nipple. I saw it asked WTF and then it exited my mind. Critics,jocks and immature people have no sense real humor. Make a joke about the *****, eveyone else is.
Watchmen was great. It could have been better no doubt. I do feel like I was reading the book most of the time but then Dr. Manhattan and his blue donkey dick came into frame. I felt like Ive seen more blue dick then smurfet. Reaaly come on. Its all a gaint ***** Plothole if you ask me. I wish to know for not knowing ways is that Billy cudrids real ***** or not. I dont know but I pet $10 on that its not.
I play at the Mirkwood cup here in Seattle a few days ago with this concept of a deck. Kolbolds and Ad Nauseam. The deck went 2-2 beofre I got to drunk to continue to play. The decks i did beat were Fish and U/B mana-drils but loss both times to Stax decks running Cahilce for ZEROOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Again this is my concept, jawas.
Sidenote: I call it jawas becasue I painted all my kobolds into jawas.
I didnt have a SB buit thgouth after getting pounded by stax, what about a transforming SB into a aggro like control with confidant, Negator and Null rod.
Im going to say a player, Gearhart. Yes David Gearhart. I got to met him a mouth ago on the chat line and he showed me a couple of tricks he has with hightide that r unseen to most ppl. Ive taken the pointers he has given me and added it to my personal hightide deck. Its not as fast as tendrils is but it can react and counter the turn 2 kill with going over right under its own combo.
Im saying Hightide pulls it off with gearhart holding the cup.
I think a lot of you guys are missing a big part of legacy. Its randomness. Madness won last year. Who the F saw that coming. No one is the answer. This format is ever changing every week and new and powerful decks come out. I'm guess a frimilar face will win but 3 of the other decks that top8 will probably be new to this format for once put off as dead.
I'm not predicting a winner but in going to say that most of you don't really have a idea on what decks can win and what decks cant win. THE cure, that deck really sucks BTW. Doesn't really stand a chance verse pro thres and combo decks and players.
I respect what you are saying, but I have to throw much of it out the window.
Goblins win by over loading your opponit with more then he can hanlde. I dont know if there is a lot of Standstill decks packing wraths and dammnations but over here there are a ton. Mogg gives you a andanvge over them if they wrath and if you are a smart goblin play, you will hold your warcheif and piledrivers back till they do. Mogg helps with that adding three points of damage(1 with body, 2 with driver).
Im not the kinda of guy that says **** out of his mouth, I know my goblins and to add Mogg Marashal in it had to be better then good, but great.
He his often my SB for combo decks and MBC decks as I rather have King, which I dont know why i wrote down as sharpshooter but I did, and I would rather have Therapy to deal with Plague.
I have tested over 100 games and faced more then 20 other goblin decks and 10 different archives including Threshold, MBC, Solar Flare(Stax), Red death etc. Mogg has time and time again proven himself worth the spot over something like Pyrokinese, sharpshoop and Kiki.
Lets try your view, they blow up Vial. No big deal really. you sit back a couple of turns, **** with his mana will playing smaller goblins like fanatic, marshal and matron then go for the kill.
yes, I admite at times I dont like him but 70/30 the advanges of him outweigh the cons.
Pros:
1. two for the price of one and sometimes 3
2. adds piledriver damage
3. Give SGC more amo for the Mirror
4. Kills a piledriver in the mirror with a troop standing
5. helps you rebuild after a mass removal spell
Con:
1. Has echo
2. Not a true two drop like piledriver
3. Without Vial/Lackey is a tricky hard cast
4.
As well as the splash, There is a **** ton of combo around and pending on the tourny im at and the people I know I will choice or not to choice to MD therapy. As it stands right now they are SB, but I feel like it needs to be done I will MD them.
Green is not a great splash. You can deal with Plauge but not Combo. The Cabal Therpays help you nail improt combo cards like Reset, Iggy and Freeze. Chailce for 0 hinders Iggy-Pop and for 2 or 1 verse High tide is game. A msot for all SB.
The marshall has become a great surprise verse the Mirror. I have three goblins to your one. Mogg Marshall when it comes down to it is one of the most effisent creatures in the deck along side Ringleader and SGC.
and Oh, DONT ***** ABOUT ECHO. Most of the time you Vial it or Lackey it in. rarly do I hard cast it unless its 4 or 5th turn.
I think its funny that your using Epochrasite in this deck. Im using it in a B/R mini Reanimater deck im trying out.
It seems to work well with Vail and other cards in hte deck. Like to see that this deck deck has come so far in such little time.
Keep up the good work!
Some day this deck will Top8 along side the big bad three.
The main problem with legacy is this right here. Everyone *****en about what is wrong and not looking for what is right. Forget about banning lackey, Vial, Wasteland Ect and unbanning Gush, Durid and replenish. Just live with it and move on.
To make legacy more intresting, WotC should make legacy playable on area with less than 100 players, which just isn't possible now, as there isn't enough good legacy cards in whole area to build good decks for 16 man tournament. Not to mention, legacy is very hard to acces for new players ATM, as you need lots of money rares, but WotC doesn't want to print anything good like them because A: They would break standard and B: That would break market value of them. Oh and C: WotC hates legacy.
Ok, a goblin deck that could win a GP or PT cost around $250 with the only big breakers being Wasteland at $8(36), Lackey at $6(24), Fetches at $10(60-80), Piledriver at $10(40) and the rest being around anouther $70. so in total that is $250. A standard deck from strach is $60-80 for duals, $30-$40 for pain lands, another $120-$150 for 8-16 case rares the deck needs and lets say $40 for the rest. Thats around $250- $310. Leacgy doesn't brake the bank.
Secound market value for most of the cards in legacy outside of the duals and fetchs is secound level. Cheap stuff. Legacy when it comes down to it with the total vaule of the cards it is the cheapest format. So don't go and say it will brake the bank. Cuase it never will.
And Legacy has more then enought decks and cards to play a 100 man tourny with +16 decks. It just requires a person like myself and Issy to show up with Vial Horror and beat all the Goblin ^$*@^ and guess what, most of legacy is people like me and Issy who think outside the box and like to play a different style that is not High Tide, Threshold and Goblins al the time.
My first real post in over 5 mouths.
I'm so happy right now.
The deck list is simple, resembles mono black with confidants, rituals and discard spells. I wanted the 12 best infect creatures in the deck, sadly there is really only one great infect creature, Crusader. Icor rats is ok with unearth and plague stinger has flying. All 16 creatures are under 3cc so unearth seems solid behind using discard to pin point exile removal and counter spells. Invigorate and unspeakable sysmbol are the best two pump spells for the deck. I could be wrong about Invigorate but gaining 3 life for 4 counters is worth the splash alone. Sysmbol has that Hatred feel to it witch VS zoo is well… poor, but Dark Triumph or Rouse seem to be a ok replacement, plus triumph is more speed VS the control and combo field.
It’s a work in progress, maybe with New Phyrexia new cards will come and another infect creature like crusader…is that asking to much?
-This is a joke not a rant.
Again this is my concept, jawas.
Sidenote: I call it jawas becasue I painted all my kobolds into jawas.
10 kobolds
4 chrome mox
1 black lutos
1 mox jet
1 lotus petal
1 mana vault
1 mana crypt
4 dark ritual
4 culling the weak
4 duress
4 cabal therapy
2 skullclamp
1 demonic tutor
1 diabolic intent
4 ad nauseam
1 yag's will
4 serum powder
2 tendrils of agony
4 Dark confidant
4 Phyrexian negator
1 Darkblast
2 null rod
2 Yixlid Jailer
2 Extripate
I didnt have a SB buit thgouth after getting pounded by stax, what about a transforming SB into a aggro like control with confidant, Negator and Null rod.
Way for making my day boys. Keep up the GREAAAAAAAAAAAT work!
Im saying Hightide pulls it off with gearhart holding the cup.
I'm not predicting a winner but in going to say that most of you don't really have a idea on what decks can win and what decks cant win. THE cure, that deck really sucks BTW. Doesn't really stand a chance verse pro thres and combo decks and players.
2 Grove of the Burnwillows
2 Keldon Megaliths
12 Mountain
4 Blood Knight
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Quirion Dryad
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Incinerate
4 Lash Out
4 Rift Bolt
4 Tarfire
4 Thunderblade Charge
3 Krosan Grip
3 Pithing Needle
3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Sudden Shock
3 Sulfur Elemental
The deck list has changed little but after my pairing of elves in the top8 I changed the SB a little.
4 Karplusan Forest
2 Keldon Megaliths
12 Mountain
4 Blood Knight
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Quirion Dryad
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Incinerate
4 Lash Out
4 Rift Bolt
4 Tarfire
4 Thunderblade Charge
2 Krosan Grip
2 Pithing Needle
4 Sulfuric blast
4 Sudden Shock
3 Sulfur Elemental
Goblins win by over loading your opponit with more then he can hanlde. I dont know if there is a lot of Standstill decks packing wraths and dammnations but over here there are a ton. Mogg gives you a andanvge over them if they wrath and if you are a smart goblin play, you will hold your warcheif and piledrivers back till they do. Mogg helps with that adding three points of damage(1 with body, 2 with driver).
Im not the kinda of guy that says **** out of his mouth, I know my goblins and to add Mogg Marashal in it had to be better then good, but great.
He his often my SB for combo decks and MBC decks as I rather have King, which I dont know why i wrote down as sharpshooter but I did, and I would rather have Therapy to deal with Plague.
I have tested over 100 games and faced more then 20 other goblin decks and 10 different archives including Threshold, MBC, Solar Flare(Stax), Red death etc. Mogg has time and time again proven himself worth the spot over something like Pyrokinese, sharpshoop and Kiki.
Lets try your view, they blow up Vial. No big deal really. you sit back a couple of turns, **** with his mana will playing smaller goblins like fanatic, marshal and matron then go for the kill.
yes, I admite at times I dont like him but 70/30 the advanges of him outweigh the cons.
Pros:
1. two for the price of one and sometimes 3
2. adds piledriver damage
3. Give SGC more amo for the Mirror
4. Kills a piledriver in the mirror with a troop standing
5. helps you rebuild after a mass removal spell
Con:
1. Has echo
2. Not a true two drop like piledriver
3. Without Vial/Lackey is a tricky hard cast
4.
As well as the splash, There is a **** ton of combo around and pending on the tourny im at and the people I know I will choice or not to choice to MD therapy. As it stands right now they are SB, but I feel like it needs to be done I will MD them.
3 Wooded Foothills
2 Badlands
4 Wasteland
4 Rishadan Port
6 Mountain
4 Goblin Lackey
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Mogg War Marshall (NEEDS TO BE ADDED)
4 Goblin Warcheif
4 Goblin Marton
4 Goblin Ringleader
3 Segie-Gang
3 Gemplam Incinerator
4 Chailce ov the Void
3 Cabal Therapy
2 Pithing Needle
4 Pyrokinesis
1 Goblin Sharpshoor
1 Goblin Tinker
Green is not a great splash. You can deal with Plauge but not Combo. The Cabal Therpays help you nail improt combo cards like Reset, Iggy and Freeze. Chailce for 0 hinders Iggy-Pop and for 2 or 1 verse High tide is game. A msot for all SB.
The marshall has become a great surprise verse the Mirror. I have three goblins to your one. Mogg Marshall when it comes down to it is one of the most effisent creatures in the deck along side Ringleader and SGC.
and Oh, DONT ***** ABOUT ECHO. Most of the time you Vial it or Lackey it in. rarly do I hard cast it unless its 4 or 5th turn.
I think its funny that your using Epochrasite in this deck. Im using it in a B/R mini Reanimater deck im trying out.
It seems to work well with Vail and other cards in hte deck. Like to see that this deck deck has come so far in such little time.
Keep up the good work!
Some day this deck will Top8 along side the big bad three.
Later
I'm looking for 3 to 4 people in the greater Seattle aera to start a testing group for decks and idea's of all different formats.
PM me if you want to join or have any questions.
Ok, a goblin deck that could win a GP or PT cost around $250 with the only big breakers being Wasteland at $8(36), Lackey at $6(24), Fetches at $10(60-80), Piledriver at $10(40) and the rest being around anouther $70. so in total that is $250. A standard deck from strach is $60-80 for duals, $30-$40 for pain lands, another $120-$150 for 8-16 case rares the deck needs and lets say $40 for the rest. Thats around $250- $310. Leacgy doesn't brake the bank.
Secound market value for most of the cards in legacy outside of the duals and fetchs is secound level. Cheap stuff. Legacy when it comes down to it with the total vaule of the cards it is the cheapest format. So don't go and say it will brake the bank. Cuase it never will.
And Legacy has more then enought decks and cards to play a 100 man tourny with +16 decks. It just requires a person like myself and Issy to show up with Vial Horror and beat all the Goblin ^$*@^ and guess what, most of legacy is people like me and Issy who think outside the box and like to play a different style that is not High Tide, Threshold and Goblins al the time.
My first real post in over 5 mouths.
I'm so happy right now.