MTG Salvation

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Cloudblazer made it in here. That's awesome. That means Fatal Push is in here at uncommon unless they're just missing the point.

Given the spoilers of this set. They not only missed the point, they drove by the point, made a u-turn, drove by the point again and rolled down the windows and had the family vacation flip off the point.

They then got to their destination, called the point, told the point that no one loves it and that it should kill itself because it's pointless.

Finally on the way home, they decided to stop by the point, burn it's house down, kill it's dog, and exhumed it's dead grandmother point to beat the point with her corpse.

Oh come on. I think exhuming it's dead grandmother is exaggerating just a smidgen. But up to that point, sure. This was entertaining though, you win.

As of this post all mythics are in and 4 rares left to go assuming 15 mythics and 53 rares.

I wonder how much the price will actually be impacted. Both original printings were common rarity.

Yeah, Cabal Coffers would have been my personal first choice for Torment. On the plus side we could still get Chainer's Edict.

If we have Counterspell at common, I could see Chainer's back at uncommon. I would think they would want more straight up black removal than just Murder.

I am going to make a nearly baseless claim and state that this version will be about $40 bucks in about 4 months.

After some Googling I am estimating that P3k had about 40000-50000 of each uncommon printed. In order to double this supply they will need to print 200,000+ booster boxes. That doesn't sound too unreasonable.

Hey look. A good value RED mythic rare.

Edit: Forgot to mention the red part...

The 25 is silver. The cards also have "u" list at the bottom indicating uncommon rarity.

Yeah, I guess I understand if you don't like off color fetches, but Strip mine and company are definitely needed at times. No one said you had to abuse it, but it gives you an out to others shenanigans.

Staxy cards usually like crucible. Pox, Death Cloud, Smallpox etc.

Also be careful with how many non swamps you include if you rely heavily on Cabal. You may be tutoring that one up frequently, but can't always count on Urborg.

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If this just turns out to be a cheap set of solid but not particularly expensive cards I'll be happy. Some good commons and uncommons like Counterspell and Fact or Fiction along with some average Jace-specific cards Oath of Jace and Jace's Erasure would be fine to me, as long as the art and foiling process make the cards exciting to look at.

The Valentine's Mini Announcement stated "Each Signature Spellbook will contain one premium foil and eight cards that fit with the Planeswalker's identity."

Certainly only sounds like one foil card.

Using Aether Revolt as the example...5-6 of each common would be expected, but of course variance.

Booster packs have 10-11 commons in them depending on tip cards, basic lands, foils etc. It may just be 10 at all...I'm actually not sure.

If you have 10 per pack and 36 packs in a box that is 360 commons divided by 70 commons is 5.1 average. Now I am fairly certain the commons are not randomized the same way as maybe rares are plus there is just expected deviation. You may get 3 of one and 9 of another.

As an aside, on a larger set like Kaladesh with 101 commons, you can expect an average of 3.6 of each common (360/101=3.56). This matches the numbers you mentioned.

All that said not sure why extra commons is a reason not to buy a booster box. I can list a bunch of other reasons not to, but this doesn't seem like it would ever be a consideration.

Good alternative (or addition) to Innocent Blood for different kinds of decks. Interesting comparison between the two. Cost, timing, and scalibility differences.

I totally didn't realize they reprinted Innocent Blood in Explorers of Ixalan till just now.

Edit: Also confused about it's legality until I remembered that Explorers is that weird board game and not the first set in the block...

So let's figure if you go through about 25 cards in your deck in a given game (starting 7, certain number of draws per turn plus additional draws or filtering) that is 25% so you should expect to see 1-2 metal craft cards on average.

In those same 25 cards you would need to see 3 artifacts to play and turn on metal craft. 100/25 = 4. 4x3 cards needed is 12. Make it 3x5 to cover some variance and you get 15 artifacts. Obviously this is extremely rough estimations but I think it should give a rough idea of what to shoot for.

The deck will dictate some of the assumptions. I figured 25 cards since you are including blue and will likely have at least some draw and filtering. If you want metalcraft turned on more quickly you will need to have more artifacts as well. If you are in competitive and fast games or slower longer games are also factors to consider.

Good synergy in Omnath, Locus of Rage where sometimes you want to turn your lands into Elementals so you can sacrifice them to lightning bolt the board and close out a game. The ultimate does this while giving you an equal number of 5/5s to go with it. With a haste effect out the ultimate is game ending a lot of times, but usually this will just be played to untap forests with a mana doubler out if possible.

Thought this thread skips vanilla/french vanilla creatures so there is actually something to discuss.

Always fun with a Doubling Season or Primal Vigor.