They’re modern legal cards. They’re cards I would like to get an include in modern brews i’m working on. They’re seemingly not only not used in any modern decks, but not in any decks in any format. For being modern legal cards I’d like to use in modern decks but have unusually high prices for cards unused in competitive decks in any format, I thought I might ask here why they’re holding the prices they are. Am I not allowed to ask? Have I breached unspoken rules?
These two cards are popular in EDH, and they do not get any reprint. Thus, the the price goes up.
Wish this answers to your question
Just wondering why The Scarab God is more than 40 dollars right now... is it because of Standard or a M odern deck is using it??
On the MTGStocks page it will actually tell you which decks are playing the card and in which format. Scrolling down has got to be easier than making a post here and then waiting on responses. also google
On that tip - what the hell is keeping Idyllic Tutor and Shared Animosity so high!? They’re not being used in ANYTHING, but their pricing is considerably higher than other not-being-played Shadowmoor-only rares.
These cards do almost nothing to Modern.
Thus their price tag is not a big issue here. Right?
Given that Field of Ruin is an uncommon, it's going to take a lot for it to get up to the $5 range (pre-release price is 50 cents). It will see play, but I don't think this is the next Path or Push.
You are absolutely right. I will be surprised if Field of Ruin is higher than $3.00 in the incoming year.
I'd expect the usage rate of Horizon Canopy to go up. It's a good card but not really essential, so a lot of people will make less expensive choices in their decks. If it comes down to say $30, people who didn't want to spend $100 or even $70 per card would be inclined to pick it up. I'd pay $120 for a playset.
This card will not drop to $30.
My assumption for the lower bar is $50
You should have at least a playset. If you want more for investment, it is up to you.
The current price should be acceptable.
I'm asking whether to ditch it, seeing as it rotates out in 3 weeks. No idea why I should have a playset.
Sorry I do not read your words carefully.
If you want to sell it, this is not a good time to do it because of the rotation. Better to keep them for another year in order to sell it with a better price tag.
Personally I would keep a playset for my Modern decks.
Relic of Progenitus is way better than Crook of Condemnation in terms of mana efficiency, which is critical in Modern.
You will not see Crook of Condemnation plays in Modern as long as Relic of Progenitus is legal
The fact the formats exist and people love playing them is more than enough proof that there's a number of people not interested in paying the price to play modern, but want a non-rotating format. The trouble is that everyone is stuck trying to find an answer to the problem of time and how to deal with wizards method of printing cards. The other problem is the speculator market and the lack of controls leading to buyouts and shady business.
If there is such a non-rotating constructed format that is can be played less expensive than Modern, it will hurt the bunsiess of Standard.
WOTC will not make Modern too cheap for such reason, and for the same reason, WOTC will not create (and push) a new cheaper non-rotating constructed format.
I'm not arguing to argue. You are saying they want to be able to print Modern cards in Standard. I'm saying they want to print 'Eternally Standard' level cards in Standard.
Your point is relevant to Standard, and a future format which doesnt exist. They want to be able to lean on Shock (then again look at the last Top 8 for Standard lol) and other lesser versions of Cards to have a set of staples they are comfortable with. No argument there from me.
The point we differ on, is that you think they want Modern level cards to reprint in Standard, when...thats pretty pointless if you have Masters sets you can literally load up with value, and print money with.
(Note to Mods: This is all relevant to Price, it is about the reprint paths Wizards chooses)
This part here.
Generic cards that can be skinned to whatever setting they are printing solves a lot of problems the company is having at the moment and has positive implications for modern.
Is right, up to the 'positive implications for modern'.
Print shock in every set from now till the end of time, its still not Bolt, and its still draft chaff as far as Modern is concerned, just like every other 'likely reprint' they would put in Standard.
Until they start putting Goyf, Bob, Noble, and the like into Standard sets you are just off target. They are talking about cards like Shock not Lightning Bolt, cards like Essence Scatter, not even Mana Leak.
We agree they want to have a catalog of reprint viable options. We disagree that those can or should be Modern relevant. They wont be, 99% of the time.
That's kind of why I'm thinking wizards might make a move to try and build a new non-rotating format. Also one big misunderstanding is what would really happen if they did do this. While I'm mentioning how they would go about ending modern if they intended to do it, it's far more likely they end legacy first and just go casual -> modern (replaces legacy) -> new non-rotating format -> standard, with priorities going from right to left. The format that is going to lose any hope of seeing strictly format specific reprints would be legacy.
If they build a baseline set of reprintable cards that every player owns, they have a format that is price managed for non-rotating, but is engineered to not be very enduring so people will go play standard to get some new thrills. Basically, that new format will probably have rules like "only evergreen mechanics are legal" or along those lines to prevent mad synergy issues like with dredge or delve.
Thing is, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, needs to change.
Legacy? What support does it get as is? Legacy cards are more warping than Modern.
Modern. Nothing needs to change. The format THRIVES, and Wizards has doubled down on that with their backpedal on GP and PT Modern event counts.
Standard. Its...Standard. If one likes to play a limited number of archetypes, with weaker cards...its there.
Limited/Commander/Kitchen Table - Nothing needs to change, these players will and do play with stuff we would put in recycling bins and seemingly like that.
Not only is there no need that I can see for a new format, but what purpose would it serve Wizards? They would STILL want people playing Standard (or Limited if we are honest!) above all else.
Modern doesn't sell packs and neither would the new format directly do it, but if they can indirectly encourage people to spend more on packs they WILL do it. That is why they would start a new format from a financial perspective. Give people that affordable constructed format they can carefully maintain, but prevent from being too exciting and have too many synergies. Again, it's one route they can take, but there are others as well. I think that wizards will likely do it simply because they already see three things indicating that a middle of the road competitive format is needed to help keep players playing the game and keeping interest up: Pauper, budget modern, and frontier.
It's not about what the players think in the end. It's about what makes them money.
Modern makes them money. This is why WOTC pushes this format so hard.
Why do they need to create a new format (something like....budge Modern?) and replace Modern?
"...because they already see three things indicating that a middle of the road competitive format is needed to help keep players playing the game and keeping interest up: Pauper, budget modern, and frontier. "
Where do you see such kind of indictation? Source or link, please.
A friend and I were just looking up her prices last night since I told him that I saw a Judge Promo on FB being sold for $16 (actually was wrong; it was Defense of the Heart). He didn't believe me. He was right. I actually had not used mine much since Summer Bloom was banned, although I run 2 in Amulet Titan, which I don't play often.
I agree that it's probably a buyout, perhaps spurned by Todd Steven's Value Town deck.
After watching the SCG tournament from Twitch last week, I am impressed that Ramunap Excavator did a good job in Modern.
I was thinking that this is perhaps the way I should follow to improve my Knight company deck, as a result, I need some extra copies of Azusa, Lost but Seeking.
I ordered a playset of Azusa (judge promo) from SCG, 45$ each last Monday. Now it seems to me that there are other people thinking the same thing as me and drive the buyout.
These two cards are popular in EDH, and they do not get any reprint. Thus, the the price goes up.
Wish this answers to your question
These cards do almost nothing to Modern.
Thus their price tag is not a big issue here. Right?
You are absolutely right. I will be surprised if Field of Ruin is higher than $3.00 in the incoming year.
This card will not drop to $30.
My assumption for the lower bar is $50
BTW, I need a playset as well.
Sorry I do not read your words carefully.
If you want to sell it, this is not a good time to do it because of the rotation. Better to keep them for another year in order to sell it with a better price tag.
Personally I would keep a playset for my Modern decks.
You should have at least a playset. If you want more for investment, it is up to you.
The current price should be acceptable.
Which deck you are testing against? No bolt or push or path?
You can steal Inkmoth if this is Instant
Doubling Season is not Modern playable. Just too slow.
You will not see Crook of Condemnation plays in Modern as long as Relic of Progenitus is legal
If there is such a non-rotating constructed format that is can be played less expensive than Modern, it will hurt the bunsiess of Standard.
WOTC will not make Modern too cheap for such reason, and for the same reason, WOTC will not create (and push) a new cheaper non-rotating constructed format.
Wish it makes sense to you.
Modern makes them money. This is why WOTC pushes this format so hard.
Why do they need to create a new format (something like....budge Modern?) and replace Modern?
"...because they already see three things indicating that a middle of the road competitive format is needed to help keep players playing the game and keeping interest up: Pauper, budget modern, and frontier. "
Where do you see such kind of indictation? Source or link, please.
After watching the SCG tournament from Twitch last week, I am impressed that Ramunap Excavator did a good job in Modern.
I was thinking that this is perhaps the way I should follow to improve my Knight company deck, as a result, I need some extra copies of Azusa, Lost but Seeking.
I ordered a playset of Azusa (judge promo) from SCG, 45$ each last Monday. Now it seems to me that there are other people thinking the same thing as me and drive the buyout.