@Tanth303: Welcome to the hive! It is quite possible to win without comboing if you go a more aggressive route. Check out Crux's agro list in the primer.
@Zoa069: Welcome to the hive! My list has no problem winning 1v1 or multiplayer. It runs all duals and fetches so it is not budget friendly at all. It is linked to in the primer. Edit: Here is a link so people don't have to go find it (namely me)
Now on to my post: What do you think the chances of seeing slivers now that we are going back to Dominaria?
I have found regen useful at times but it is not critical. I do currently run bloodclot and sedge, but I agree with Crux, if I could only pick one it would be Sedge. I don't like Crypt because of the targeting since Crystalline is one of my first tutor target.
I would definately run a Sylvan Library and then you should be set on card draw. If you run Dormant Sliver, Galerider (any one mana sliver), and Hibernation Sliver it is effectively 2 life to draw a card; build your own Greed! (This assumes you have a mana and haste slivers out)
I don't run any board wipes since I am not a fan of the games they create (talking about MLD, not wraths). Ghostflame and All is Dust are wasted slots imo but ymmv.
Hello everyone, long time lurker, first time poster. I've been playing commander for a couple months using ideas from here. I've liked slivers since Tempest and love the tribal feel. I am making adjustments based on what's happened in games so far. I'm running Descendants' Path with Mirri's Guile and some tutors to set it up. I will grant that it has yet to happen. When I have tutors, I'm looking for Manaweft Sliver or Crystalline Sliver to make sure I can get the Overlord out. Has anyone tried Call to the Kindred? Is it viable to set up something where in the upkeep, you're dropping slivers on to the board? My concern is the more cards needed to make something happen, the more fragile/less likely it is to set up. I am running Brainstorm and draw cards to assist with optimization. I was hoping someone had already gone down this rabbit hole and knew if this was feasible. I'd like to post a full list and get feedback but am not sure if this is the right thread to do it in.
I played with Descendants' Path and Call to the Kindred in an early iteration of my list and it worked ok. If it was working it is phenomenal but if you don't have a creature out they were lackluster to miserable; so be careful with that.
You definitely want some form of card draw but Brainstorm is not where you want to be. I think the person above me's suggestion is good.
I run three haste slivers so I have no need for the greaves as far as one board wipe and you are done then you are building the deck wrong. In a game this last Friday I survived a Wrath, Damnation, and Cyclonic Rift with no problems. It really just kept me from winning that turn.
Harmonic Sliver is uncuttable! When you are done destroying everything that isn't yours just bounce it to your hand or sac it to deal damage, draw a card, whatever...
I really wish it would let me post my updated list.
I would like to add the remaining fetches (Flooded Strand, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats) but I don't know what to cut for them. I also already feel like the deck has too many lands and would actually cut the non-green fetches entirely. But what would I add back instead?
As always any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.
@Zoa069: Welcome to the hive! My list has no problem winning 1v1 or multiplayer. It runs all duals and fetches so it is not budget friendly at all. It is linked to in the primer. Edit: Here is a link so people don't have to go find it (namely me)
Now on to my post: What do you think the chances of seeing slivers now that we are going back to Dominaria?
I have added Paradox Engine but I have yet to draw it. My guess is it will be a more expensive yet asymmetrical Intruder Alarm.
I don't run any board wipes since I am not a fan of the games they create (talking about MLD, not wraths). Ghostflame and All is Dust are wasted slots imo but ymmv.
I played with Descendants' Path and Call to the Kindred in an early iteration of my list and it worked ok. If it was working it is phenomenal but if you don't have a creature out they were lackluster to miserable; so be careful with that.
You definitely want some form of card draw but Brainstorm is not where you want to be. I think the person above me's suggestion is good.
1 Sliver Overlord
Creatures: (31)
2 Acidic Sliver
3 Amoeboid Changeling
4 Basal Sliver
5 Blur Sliver
6 Clot Sliver
7 Crystalline Sliver
8 Darkheart Sliver
9 Dormant Sliver
10 Firewake Sliver
11 Galerider Sliver
12 Gemhide Sliver
13 Harmonic Sliver
14 Heart Sliver
15 Hibernation Sliver
16 Manaweft Sliver
17 Mnemonic Sliver
18 Necrotic Sliver
19 Psionic Sliver
20 Quick Sliver
21 Reflex Sliver
22 Root Sliver
23 Sedge Sliver
24 Shifting Sliver
25 Sliver Hivelord
26 Sliver Legion
27 Sliver Queen
28 Synapse Sliver
29 Thorncaster Sliver
30 Venom Sliver
31 Winged Sliver
Artifacts: (9)
32 Ashnod's Altar
33 Chromatic Lantern
34 Coalition Relic
35 Darksteel Ingot
36 Heartstone
37 Mox Diamond
38 Sensei's Divining Top
39 Sol Ring
40 Paradox Engine
41 Aphetto Dredging
42 Counterspell
43 Cultivate
44 Demonic Tutor
45 Dissolve
46 Distant Melody
47 Enlightened Tutor
48 Farseek
49 Harmonize
50 Patriarch's Bidding
51 Regrowth
52 Shard Convergence
53 Vampiric Tutor
54 Vindicate
55 Wordly Tutor
Enchantments: (6)
56 Aggravated Assault
57 Exploration
58 Mana Echoes
59 Sylvan Library
60 Training Grounds
61 Unnatural Selection
Lands: (38)
62 Ancient Ziggurat
63 Badlands
64 Bayou
65 Bloodstained Mire
66 Breeding Pool
67 Cavern of Souls
68 Command Tower
69 Exotic Orchard
70 Forest
71 Flooded Strand
72 Hinterland Harbor
73 Island
74 Mountain
75 Overgrown Tomb
76 Plains
77 Plateau
78 Polluted Delta
79 Reflecting Pool
80 Rootbound Crag
81 Savannah
82 Scalding Tarn
83 Scrubland
84 Sliver Hive
85 Stomping Ground
86 Sunpetal Grove
87 Swamp
88 Taiga
89 Temple Garden
90 Thran Quarry
91 Tropical Island
92 Tundra
93 Underground Sea
94 Verdant Catacombs
95 Volcanic Island
96 Volrath's Stronghold
97 Windswept Heath
98 Wooded Foothills
99 Woodland Cemetery
Harmonic Sliver is uncuttable! When you are done destroying everything that isn't yours just bounce it to your hand or sac it to deal damage, draw a card, whatever...
I really wish it would let me post my updated list.
1 Sliver Overlord
Creatures: (24)
2 Acidic Sliver
3 Amoeboid Changeling
4 Basal Sliver
5 Blur Sliver
6 Clot Sliver
7 Crystalline Sliver
8 Darkheart Sliver
9 Dormant Sliver
10 Firewake Sliver
11 Galerider Sliver
12 Gemhide Sliver
13 Harmonic Sliver
14 Heart Sliver
15 Hibernation Sliver
16 Manaweft Sliver
17 Mnemonic Sliver
18 Necrotic Sliver
19 Quick Sliver
20 Root Sliver
21 Sedge Sliver
22 Sliver Hivelord
23 Sliver Legion
24 Sliver Queen
25 Venom Sliver
Artifacts: (9)
26 Ashnod's Altar
27 Chromatic Lantern
28 Coalition Relic
29 Darksteel Ingot
30 Heartstone
31 Mox Diamond
32 Sensei's Divining Top
33 Sol Ring
34 Urza's Incubator
35 Aphetto Dredging
36 Bring to Light
37 Counterspell
38 Cultivate
39 Demonic Tutor
40 Disallow
41 Dissolve
42 Distant Melody
43 Enlightened Tutor
44 Farseek
45 Harmonize
46 Insidious Will
47 Mystical Tutor
48 Patriarch's Bidding
49 Shard Convergence
50 Vampiric Tutor
51 Vindicate
52 Wildest Dreams
53 Wordly Tutor
Enchantments: (9)
54 Aggravated Assault
55 Burgeoning
56 Cryptolith Rite
57 Exploration
58 Intruder Alarm
59 Mana Echoes
60 Sylvan Library
61 Training Grounds
62 Unnatural Selection
Lands: (38)
63 Ancient Ziggurat
64 Badlands
65 Bayou
66 Bloodstained Mire
67 Breeding Pool
68 Cavern of Souls
69 Command Tower
70 Exotic Orchard
71 Forest
72 Hinterland Harbor
73 Island
74 Misty Rainforest
75 Mountain
76 Overgrown Tomb
77 Plains
78 Plateau
79 Polluted Delta
80 Reflecting Pool
81 Rootbound Crag
82 Savannah
83 Scalding Tarn
84 Scrubland
85 Sliver Hive
86 Stomping Ground
87 Sunpetal Grove
88 Swamp
89 Taiga
90 Temple Garden
91 Thran Quarry
92 Tropical Island
93 Tundra
94 Underground Sea
95 Verdant Catacombs
96 Volcanic Island
97 Volrath's Stronghold
98 Windswept Heath
99 Wooded Foothills
100 Woodland Cemetery
I feel like I have too many lands, thoughts?
1 Sliver Overlord
Creatures: (24)
2 Acidic Sliver
3 Amoeboid Changeling
4 Basal Sliver
5 Blur Sliver
6 Clot Sliver
7 Crystalline Sliver
8 Darkheart Sliver
9 Dormant Sliver
10 Firewake Sliver
11 Galerider Sliver
12 Gemhide Sliver
13 Harmonic Sliver
14 Heart Sliver
15 Hibernation Sliver
16 Manaweft Sliver
17 Mnemonic Sliver
18 Necrotic Sliver
19 Quick Sliver
20 Root Sliver
21 Sedge Sliver
22 Sliver Hivelord
23 Sliver Legion
24 Sliver Queen
25 Venom Sliver
Artifacts: (9)
26 Ashnod's Altar
27 Chromatic Lantern
28 Coalition Relic
29 Darksteel Ingot
30 Heartstone
31 Mox Diamond
32 Sensei's Divining Top
33 Sol Ring
34 Urza's Incubator
35 Aphetto Dredging
36 Bring to Light
37 Counterspell
38 Cultivate
39 Demonic Tutor
40 Disallow
41 Dissolve
42 Distant Melody
43 Enlightened Tutor
44 Farseek
45 Harmonize
46 Insidious Will
47 Mystical Tutor
48 Patriarch's Bidding
49 Shard Convergence
50 Vampiric Tutor
51 Vindicate
52 Wildest Dreams
53 Wordly Tutor
Enchantments: (9)
54 Aggravated Assault
55 Burgeoning
56 Cryptolith Rite
57 Exploration
58 Intruder Alarm
59 Mana Echoes
60 Sylvan Library
61 Training Grounds
62 Unnatural Selection
Lands: (38)
63 Ancient Ziggurat
64 Badlands
65 Bayou
66 Bloodstained Mire
67 Breeding Pool
68 Cavern of Souls
69 Command Tower
70 Exotic Orchard
71 Forest
72 Hinterland Harbor
73 Island
74 Misty Rainforest
75 Mountain
76 Overgrown Tomb
77 Plains
78 Plateau
79 Polluted Delta
80 Reflecting Pool
81 Rootbound Crag
82 Savannah
83 Scalding Tarn
84 Scrubland
85 Sliver Hive
86 Stomping Ground
87 Sunpetal Grove
88 Swamp
89 Taiga
90 Temple Garden
91 Thran Quarry
92 Tropical Island
93 Tundra
94 Underground Sea
95 Verdant Catacombs
96 Volcanic Island
97 Volrath's Stronghold
98 Windswept Heath
99 Wooded Foothills
100 Woodland Cemetery
I would like to add the remaining fetches (Flooded Strand, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats) but I don't know what to cut for them. I also already feel like the deck has too many lands and would actually cut the non-green fetches entirely. But what would I add back instead?
As always any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.