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  • posted a message on Merfolk
    I would look to incorporate Kopala in addition to Kira, not as a substitute. Its protection effect unfortunately isn't as good.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    To be honest, Riptide Pilferer doesn't seem like a bad card. It's a bit weak in terms of rate, but a disruptive effect like a discard on combat damage is interesting.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    You'll see a UW list every once in a great while - same with the UR one that splashes for Blood Moon. Now, we wait 6 more months to see it again. Grin
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Wow. It's been a while since a playmat inspired such an immediate "I WANT THAT" reaction from me.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Ive been speaking to some standard grinders and they are pretty doubtful that Merfolk will even be a deck in Standard - ppl have been testing on free online software and are not impressed..


    Not surprising - the Standard deck seems to be a few cards away in my eyes as well (namely because the interaction options look bad). Maybe by next set.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Keen observations. A CMC2 version of Weaver would definitely be something that I would playtest, since it gets around those pesky ETB effects that sometimes make Harbinger problematic. And a Shaper Apprentice with some sort of effect would also be up for testing.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Quote from Momsie »
    How good is Merfolk in the current meta with GDS, E-Tron and bg/x? I have been looking in this deck, but not sure if it is the right choice tho


    All of those matchups are varying degrees of good for us (with Grixis Shadow being the easiest and E-Tron being the closest). The ones that are tough are Affinity and Valakut.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Scrying is an attractive carrot, but I'm still going to lean toward Echoing Truth, namely because most of the cards I bounce with it aren't CMC2 or lower, and because of the ability to bounce all copies of a card (answers Empty the Warrens tokens/multiple Ensnaring Bridges or Ghostly Prisons cleanly). It would be very close if the scry 2 happened no matter what, though.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Surgical can definitely be considered as a graveyard hate piece. It has the advantage of never needing to be babysat using mana, and it has some nice synergies with cards that destroy lands or creatures. I'd say that Relic is something I'd be somewhat uncomfortable cutting from my sideboard altogether, but I can definitely see a meta where Relics 3-4 become a pair of Surgical Extractions instead.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    That's more along the lines of what I was hoping for. Now we need to get a version with a disruptive effect attached to it.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    I like the Spyglass more than I do Pithing Needle - peeking at the hand is pretty powerful stuff. I'm not sure how I'm going to sneak it into the 75, but I'll find a way to test it at some point.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Exactly. The burden of proof is on the G splash to prove that it's not yet another of the failed splash attempts we have seen over the years. What seems to have been lost in this argument is that mono-U Merfolk is a very successful deck, and thus a high bar for any potential variant to clear. As for "knowing better"... I wouldn't say that, but I do have experience and Magic history on my side. A no-frills aggro deck with a bit of card advantage has never been successful - you either need to interact or you need to be blazing-fast in order to be successful. In Modern, blazing-fast means being capable of the occasional Turn 3 kill if left unimpeded. Merfolk simply isn't capable of that, so it has to interact.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    Quote from Ashiok »
    Your skepticism (and rogarth's): I'm actually a bit saddened to see how repellent some people from this thread are to the idea of testing new cards and new possibilities. The absolute disregard that I received from some of the members here because I was trying to make the deck better is just astonishing and disappointing. Especially given the certainty that some people have that cards that we never played before just are not going to be good. Remember that Master of Waves and Harbinger, cards that are so incredibly beloved at the moment, were also question marks in regards to their competitive viability in our deck. It is super ironical that people can't see that this might happen again with Ixalan Merfolk just because they have a green mana symbol on the casting cost. The splash might not work. In that case, we lose absolutely nothing, the deck just stay as is. If it works, we have much to gain to make the deck better, and maybe even tier 1. That's all that I have to say, besides thanking you again for this back and forth.


    Gonna level with you, bud - I truly, honestly do not care if you got miffed by my dismissiveness. My goal for this thread is to make sure that people make informed decisions about their Merfolk decks, and that they play the best possible version of the deck. I have ample reason to believe that the splashes are sub-optimal, and I have explained why. I had reason to believe your deck had construction flaws, and I explained why. Doing so is not only for your benefit, but for the benefit of newer players that might not be able to tell the difference between an experimental, untested list, and the tried-and-true variant that has taken down Grand Prix and generally been one of Modern's more successful decks. Don't like that? Prove me wrong. You always have that option. Results will always change my mind (as they did on Clique, Copter, Rejection, and countless other cards). Right now, your deck is better than it was when you first posted it, and that's what I care about.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    I advise against siding in Pierce vs. Shadow, personally. It was disappointing in the matchup when I had it in the main, precisely because their spells are all so efficient. Their removal is also usually at instant speed, so Dispel is mostly just better in that matchup. I wouldn't use Shadow as a frame of reference for Negate vs. Pierce, as I don't recommend siding either card in.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Merfolk
    The Master is fantastic at recovering from sweepers - it's 4 power at the absolute minimum, and it can pump Vaults and produce extra tokens if you have Seas out. I've won many a game against control decks using that as my follow-up. And to be honest, I would say the reason why we crush Burn and Shadow is BECAUSE of the Master - it's not win-more, it's helping us win. Until we get something actively better against the matchups in question (or as good while providing points elsewhere), he's the default. Hopefully we do - I'd love an on-tribe Spell Queller, even if I had to splash for it.
    Posted in: Tier 2 (Modern)
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