@Blinking Spirit: I had a counter argument setted up, but then I saw that you're a mod, and if I argue with you and the staff, that an easily bannable offence for what I was about to say. Unless I get permission to say such things without getting banned or warnings, I'll not say such things. It would be arguing with an on duty-police officer who just happens to be a flat earther; Not worth it.
Are you seriously refusing to debate someone participating in a thread in the debate forum just because they have "Moderator" under their name?
Kind of but not quite. I just re-joined a few days back; I'll rather not JUST get a warning right away for something that could be taken up as an offence. If I was here for a few months or years, knew the person, sure, I'll debate a mod. But I already went to forums (not this one, others) where arguing with the Mods is at best frowned upon, and could easily get you perma-banned. I barely know Spirit here, much less what he or the mods takes as offence. I could think myself making a clear and calm argument and get told off as "A jerk" due to not knowing something about the mod.
@Blinking Spirit: I had a counter argument setted up, but then I saw that you're a mod, and if I argue with you and the staff, that an easily bannable offence for what I was about to say. Unless I get permission to say such things without getting banned or warnings, I'll not say such things. It would be arguing with an on duty-police officer who just happens to be a flat earther; Not worth it.
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I will however talk about Old Gunpowder head: Friedrich Nietzsche. While I haven't been able to read Beyond Good and Evil to it fullest, I have read The Birth of Tragedy, Ecce Homo, Human, All Too Human, and On the Genealogy of Morals, and read up on the people that influenced him (William Shakespeare, Wolfgang Von Goethe, Schopenhauer, Baruch Spinoza, ect.). I read his works of Free Will, Ethics, Christianity, Art, Determinism, Science, ect. He is not my hero, but he not a person to be ignore either.
He was many things, to the point that almost no-one can be sure of what he WAS, but on things he wasn't; he not a mere 'Reverse Moralist'. He stated Christianity was not merely backwards, but flat out wrong on most accounts. He was a anti-moralist because he doubted and criticized ALL morals. All 'morals' were in his work, are just subjective values we or others had place on behaviors and things depending how they affected either the individual(The 'master morality', the creator of morals) or the community(The "herd's morality", the reaction to the master morality). Just because he hated 'The herd's' Morality doesn't mean he didn't criticize the 'Master's' Morality that caused it; only seen it as less of a problem compare to slave morality at the time and needing revaluation just as badly. Both were self-serving, Bias to wants, and do not help when figuring out if something was really 'good' or 'bad'/'evil'.
He also denounce anything that can be called "Absolute Truths". Truths (including moral truths), at least before he went insane, were at best subjective. He even criticizes his earlier works (Like the The Birth of Tragedy and Thus Spake Zarathustra) because of idealism of 'truth'.
This seems like fun. It should be called Hoardes EDH though, due to all the copies your going to have of a single card. This could make tribal decks pretty fun (and ridiculous.)
"What makes Christianity unappealing or unacceptable to you?"
Varied reason, but I get to the most pressing ones first. I'm not just going to 'spat' on 'minor' things for the sake of such. Nor am I going to get into the problems of Christianity that other plenty of other religions, beliefs, philosophies also have (Example: Minor inconsistency form one book to the other, that happens all the time.). Nor scientific evidence that makes the Bible's history likely wrong (That a whole other talk right there.). May I do these things one day? Maybe, but right now, I got other things to worry about then making a group that's about two billion strong angry.
1)Blind Faith: The first major problem is expecting a two thousand year old set of books (which itself was cobbled together form a lot of older books and scrolls), Created by a mix of Roman Senators and what would become the Catholic Church, would actually have all the right answers (Or even have the goal in mind of helping the common man.). This in itself is pretty questionable that people give up everything and just believe in something that was made by a wanton and chaotic compromise between Old roman and at the time new Christian values.
2) Major Moral Hypocrisy: Before you go about calling me a hypocrite as well, I said I wasn't going to take Minor inconsistency, like when two books put someones birthday at two different dates. What I mean is by a Major Hypocrisy is something underlining (and breaking) the whole message of the book. One example of this is Christianity calling itself a religion of peace while, while at the same time having "just wars" (Basically, this war is righteous because our enemy doesn't hold are faith.) Another is saying all people are 'equal but separate', The slogan of many racist and or sexist laws; a subversion of Equal Rights Laws. And lets not get started on the Christian/Abrahamic god moral whiplashs.
3)Black and White outlook: Christians, no matter how 'good' they are, have this idea stuck in their head that 'Bad' men only do 'bad' thing, while 'Good' men can only do 'good' things. This is problematic due too all the times that really bad men do good things and really good men do bad things. I could list really, really, horrifying men doing good things for there people, but to not invoke godwin law and sound like I that I like them (I don't), I list times that good people do some really Horrifying things.
Andrew Jackson- 7th president of United states: Hero of the battle of New Orleans, Served the biggest piece of cheese till that time, and stopped the national debt, A georgian bada**, and created the trail of tears
António Egas Moniz-Neurologist and politician: Informally, a 'wunderkind'. Inventor of Cerebral angiography (basically, a X ray scan of a brain's blood vessels) and was given the Nobel Peace Prize for Co-creating Lobotomy
An fictional and form MTG lore would be Uzra, for the longest time he might have been MTG first hero, but many of things are at best questionable and if it weren't the Phyrexians, we would call him a Villain.
There's a reason why Fredrick Nietzsche said "Beyond good and evil" and it wasn't because he was some sad libertarian teenage. He said that because he notice 'Good' people do 'bad' things all the time and 'Bad' people do 'good' things. Some say things like 'necessary evil', 'Net good' or 'it for the greater good', but is it really? Also the fact that one person good is another bad, and vise versa.
That stated, I see an animalistic urge to be irrational in humans. And I mean ALL Humans, Me, you, our friends, families, enemies, ect. We call ourselves rational, but when you look at another humans choices, there almost anything but; we even have a hard time proving other exist as 'sleeves'. And before you go all solipsism and state 'I'm the real and rational self', there many already like this, and trust me, they aren't; and seeing how we as humans are made out of the mostly the same matter, it almost more unlikely than there being a god that you or me are either. What this means about meaning? I do not know and only you can answer that for yourself.
It seems however that joining the biggest mass of people, no matter how insane their beliefs, seems to be a trait in humans.
GREETING THERE, PROFFESSIONAL IZZET COMMANDO HERE, AT YOUR SERVICE!
Anyway, in other news, I was looking into making a MTG Tactical game. Now I know there been a MTG tactics and MTG: arena of the planeswalkers; but I was looking into making something that either uses actual cards (Ex: Tannhauser, field ops) or at least a MTG tactics: 2.0. Where would the proper forum to talk about this project?
Where did you get this info? I know MARO has a hate-on for Lorwyn for some absurd reason, but pretty well everyone i talked to enjoys the set.
MARO is weird like that. Another disliked block of his was Guildpact; Considered by most as one of the greats Blocks ever made, Mark said it wasn't his best due to the number of unpopular mechanics, going on to call some mechanics 'mistakes'(Like Dredge and Haunt).
Greeting, I made this account awhile back and looking to get into major forum use. Want to change my user nickname to 'Izzet-Commando' or some variation thereof. Thanks in advance.
Kind of but not quite. I just re-joined a few days back; I'll rather not JUST get a warning right away for something that could be taken up as an offence. If I was here for a few months or years, knew the person, sure, I'll debate a mod. But I already went to forums (not this one, others) where arguing with the Mods is at best frowned upon, and could easily get you perma-banned. I barely know Spirit here, much less what he or the mods takes as offence. I could think myself making a clear and calm argument and get told off as "A jerk" due to not knowing something about the mod.
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I will however talk about Old Gunpowder head: Friedrich Nietzsche. While I haven't been able to read Beyond Good and Evil to it fullest, I have read The Birth of Tragedy, Ecce Homo, Human, All Too Human, and On the Genealogy of Morals, and read up on the people that influenced him (William Shakespeare, Wolfgang Von Goethe, Schopenhauer, Baruch Spinoza, ect.). I read his works of Free Will, Ethics, Christianity, Art, Determinism, Science, ect. He is not my hero, but he not a person to be ignore either.
He was many things, to the point that almost no-one can be sure of what he WAS, but on things he wasn't; he not a mere 'Reverse Moralist'. He stated Christianity was not merely backwards, but flat out wrong on most accounts. He was a anti-moralist because he doubted and criticized ALL morals. All 'morals' were in his work, are just subjective values we or others had place on behaviors and things depending how they affected either the individual(The 'master morality', the creator of morals) or the community(The "herd's morality", the reaction to the master morality). Just because he hated 'The herd's' Morality doesn't mean he didn't criticize the 'Master's' Morality that caused it; only seen it as less of a problem compare to slave morality at the time and needing revaluation just as badly. Both were self-serving, Bias to wants, and do not help when figuring out if something was really 'good' or 'bad'/'evil'.
He also denounce anything that can be called "Absolute Truths". Truths (including moral truths), at least before he went insane, were at best subjective. He even criticizes his earlier works (Like the The Birth of Tragedy and Thus Spake Zarathustra) because of idealism of 'truth'.
Varied reason, but I get to the most pressing ones first. I'm not just going to 'spat' on 'minor' things for the sake of such. Nor am I going to get into the problems of Christianity that other plenty of other religions, beliefs, philosophies also have (Example: Minor inconsistency form one book to the other, that happens all the time.). Nor scientific evidence that makes the Bible's history likely wrong (That a whole other talk right there.). May I do these things one day? Maybe, but right now, I got other things to worry about then making a group that's about two billion strong angry.
1)Blind Faith: The first major problem is expecting a two thousand year old set of books (which itself was cobbled together form a lot of older books and scrolls), Created by a mix of Roman Senators and what would become the Catholic Church, would actually have all the right answers (Or even have the goal in mind of helping the common man.). This in itself is pretty questionable that people give up everything and just believe in something that was made by a wanton and chaotic compromise between Old roman and at the time new Christian values.
2) Major Moral Hypocrisy: Before you go about calling me a hypocrite as well, I said I wasn't going to take Minor inconsistency, like when two books put someones birthday at two different dates. What I mean is by a Major Hypocrisy is something underlining (and breaking) the whole message of the book. One example of this is Christianity calling itself a religion of peace while, while at the same time having "just wars" (Basically, this war is righteous because our enemy doesn't hold are faith.) Another is saying all people are 'equal but separate', The slogan of many racist and or sexist laws; a subversion of Equal Rights Laws. And lets not get started on the Christian/Abrahamic god moral whiplashs.
3)Black and White outlook: Christians, no matter how 'good' they are, have this idea stuck in their head that 'Bad' men only do 'bad' thing, while 'Good' men can only do 'good' things. This is problematic due too all the times that really bad men do good things and really good men do bad things. I could list really, really, horrifying men doing good things for there people, but to not invoke godwin law and sound like I that I like them (I don't), I list times that good people do some really Horrifying things.
There's a reason why Fredrick Nietzsche said "Beyond good and evil" and it wasn't because he was some sad libertarian teenage. He said that because he notice 'Good' people do 'bad' things all the time and 'Bad' people do 'good' things. Some say things like 'necessary evil', 'Net good' or 'it for the greater good', but is it really? Also the fact that one person good is another bad, and vise versa.
That stated, I see an animalistic urge to be irrational in humans. And I mean ALL Humans, Me, you, our friends, families, enemies, ect. We call ourselves rational, but when you look at another humans choices, there almost anything but; we even have a hard time proving other exist as 'sleeves'. And before you go all solipsism and state 'I'm the real and rational self', there many already like this, and trust me, they aren't; and seeing how we as humans are made out of the mostly the same matter, it almost more unlikely than there being a god that you or me are either. What this means about meaning? I do not know and only you can answer that for yourself.
It seems however that joining the biggest mass of people, no matter how insane their beliefs, seems to be a trait in humans.
GREETING THERE, PROFFESSIONAL IZZET COMMANDO HERE, AT YOUR SERVICE!
Anyway, in other news, I was looking into making a MTG Tactical game. Now I know there been a MTG tactics and MTG: arena of the planeswalkers; but I was looking into making something that either uses actual cards (Ex: Tannhauser, field ops) or at least a MTG tactics: 2.0. Where would the proper forum to talk about this project?
Thanks mate, now time to crash into the introductory pages.
MARO is weird like that. Another disliked block of his was Guildpact; Considered by most as one of the greats Blocks ever made, Mark said it wasn't his best due to the number of unpopular mechanics, going on to call some mechanics 'mistakes'(Like Dredge and Haunt).