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Nov 30, 20152
Rai Kerensky posted a message on Card Tags and other Magic Rulings RulesPosted in: Magic Rulings -
Feb 19, 20215
Grixh posted a message on [STX] Commands, Mystical Archive, and the first look at Commander 2021Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Max Rebo »It's just another case of making special cards not special anymore now with "masterpieces" in every pack. Foils are meaningless. Showcase are basically meaningless, extended frame is meaningless, even boxtopper foil style or alternate alt is basically meaningless because collector packs. Too many things being special is actually nothing being special. Sad really.
Some people value things because they like them rather than because other people don't have them. -
Dec 22, 20202
ColossalDreadmaw posted a message on [KHM] Leak. Vorinclex, Monstrous riderPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Creedmoor »Excuse me... but what the hell is going on here??
This has to be fake, right?
Even if its fake, I like that art though. Wonder where that came from.
Sure but Maro hinted
• the introduction of a creature type that players have been wanting for years
• a card that allows you to kill someone with poison -
Nov 11, 202011
SimicNuggets posted a message on Kaldheim packagingPosted in: The Rumor Mill
They had to meet qualifications for leaky sneaky spoiler pics.Quote from Dontrike »What the crap happened to that packaging? -
Oct 29, 20203
wallycaine posted a message on [CUBE][CMD] - Court of GracePosted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
I think the issue is assuming that "sufficient blockers" = "ahead on board". If your opponent has a pair of 3/3's, and you've got 2 2/1's, you're definitely not "ahead on board"... but you do have enough blockers to hold onto the monarchy for a turn, and start outclassing their dudes with angels. There's going to be a lot of situations where this can turn one turn of chump blocking into a tide of advantage that keeps it from being relegated entirely to "win more".Quote from BlackWaltz3 »Not sure how my post which literally opens with discussion of the monarch mechanic is disregarding monarch?
My point was that this card is a bit of a win-more card. If you have sufficient blockers (which probably means you are already ahead on board) before you resolve this on turn 3-4, you will probably win having gotten 2 cards and a 4/4 angel for 2WW by the end of your next turn (in addition to your other spells) with further value to come for no additional investment. If you draw this later when behind on board or can't drop this on turn 3-4 without losing monarch, the spirit tokens don't make up for giving your opponent additional cards and they can't attack until two turns later meaning your opponent could net multiple cards before you reclaim monarch. In sum, if you're ahead on board this will often close out the game. If you're behind on board this isn't particularly good. I may test this yet, but as stated I have reservations.
I agree that Palace Jailer is extremely good. If I can get even a couple other cubeable monarch cards from this set or a future set, Jailer will go in along with those cards. I want at least a little interaction with Monarch though (besides stealing it via combat damage), I don't want Jailer to be the only cubeable card that grants this ability. -
Oct 15, 2020
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MrMoustacheMM posted a message on Potential upcoming set leaked for 2022Posted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Ernart »Quote from Ritokure »Calling it now: Lukka will be the villain of Kamigawa 2.0 and he'll be the one to bring Kaijus into the plane. No idea why he would do that, but then again it's Lukka. Dude couldn't even keep a consistent personality and motivation on a single set, nevermind a year.
Not entirely true, at least based on what MaRo told us. In their attempt to make Kamigawa accurate to Japanese myths and properly portray it in Magic lore, they "dug too deep" into Japanese mythology and showcased every part of the least resonant aspects of it.Quote from Ernart »It's not the plane aesthetic and atmosphere that failed Kamigawa. It was most of the printed cards being played was underwhelming and boring after mirrodin and before ravnica.
FALSE
Can you link an article were MARO said that and also were he claimed it was too accurate that cause the failure?
because that is impossible, I'm speaking of Game Design STANDPOINT?
It's not even too ACCURATE Japanese myths. It's not the Japanese myth that makes a card game fail it was how they delivered how they would play.
Your main point is the Kamigawa being the failure because of the Japanese Myth in it.
It's like Japanese mythology isn't compatible to MTG
Saying Kamigawa was too Accurate to Japanese myth that made it fail is a terrible analogy to game design specially when it's as flexible like MTG.
Are familiar with the other Japanese TCG back then.
TRUE!
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/21427203784/i-think-you-may-be-underestimating-your-audience-a
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/36328178334/can-we-not-see-a-return-to-kamigawa-to-do-the
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/36412404636/what-was-wrong-with-the-kamigawa-creative
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/36492003310/what-didnt-people-like-about-kamigawa-creative
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/77834619992/kamigawa-may-have-been-a-legitimate-design-flaw
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/111056883813/okay-so-youve-established-that-kamigawas
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/154559419028/i-can-see-where-people-who-dont-like-kamigawa
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/171535849908/do-you-believe-the-admittedly-bad-mechanics-of
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/175499625718/could-you-explain-what-a-lot-of-players-didnt
This only took me a few minutes to compile; there are many more posts on his blog where he elaborates. Some highlights include: non-resonant tropes and setting (as a comparison to newer top-down sets: too many Hundred-Handed Ones and Serpopards, not enough minotaurs and pyramids); confusing/hard-to-remember legendary creature names; spirits that didn't look like spirits. I'm sure there were many more. Fact is the setting was too esoteric to translate well for mass audiences. And yes, anime has become more popular over the last decade and a half, but not popular enough that the setting would work today, at least not without majorly overhauling the creative (which is what they seem to have done, assuming the original post is correct). -
Oct 15, 20202
SilvosRogueElemental posted a message on Potential upcoming set leaked for 2022Neon Dynasty doesn’t sound legit to me. Dynasty makes me think of China, not Japan. I also don’t think they would go cyberpunk. Kaladesh is already their technologically advanced plane and it was popular. I doubt they would want to step on the creative space of another plane like that. If cyberpunk is something they’re willing to do it seems like a natural progression of Kaladesh’s steampunk vibe, not Kamigawa’s spiritual, nature-based vibe.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
Oct 13, 20204
Tiro of Meletis posted a message on Commander Legends EBAY leaksThe requisite to being a leaker is a bad camera, distance, glare, and grainy exposure.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
Sep 18, 2020
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kp256 posted a message on Zada, Hedron Grinder + Primal CommandPosted in: Magic RulingsQuote from willdice »
Dromoka's Command - if you choose the second mode (targeting an opponent) and the third (targetinf Zada), it won't be copied because it's not a spell that "targets only Zada".
If you choose the third mode (targeting Zada) and the fourth (also targeting Zada), then the Command will be copied for each of your other creatures. Each copy also has the third and fourth modes selected, both targeting the same creature.
The fourth mode targets both creatures. -
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5ColorsEDH posted a message on [M21] Nine livesPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from TearingEons »Cool card design, but it's the art that does it for me. I love that it's just a house cat staring into the heavens with eight cat legends staring back at it. The art has Ajani, his brother Jazal, Kemba, Kaheera, Jareth Leonin Titan, but I can't make out the other three. Prob Balan and Mirri too. That's a pretty fun way to do cameos haha
I see this
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Correct.
Yes. The emblem works even after Tibalt has left the battlefield, and sees that Tibalt has exiled itself, allowing you to recast Tibalt.
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The new mechanic cares only about how many spells the active player casts. Spells cast by other players during your turn don't count either way.
And, as already said, being night or day is a "trait" of the game itself. The old mechanic is tracked by each card individually.
Let's say it's my turn, I cast a Village Ironsmith and pass.
During the opponent's turn, neither them nor I cast any spells. I have a Shock in hand, but I don't cast it because I want the werewolf to transform.
Now, it's my turn again. During the upkeep the Ironsmith transforms into Ironfang. Then, during my main phase I cast Breakneck Rider. He doesn't enter as Neck Breaker. And I still won't cast Shock, because then it would be a second spell and my Ironfang would return to Ironsmith!
Now let's use the new cards.
During my turn, I cast a Kessig Naturalist. It is the first card to care about night/day this game, so it becomes day. I then pass.
During the opponent's turn, they don't cast any spells. I cast a Play with Fire on them safely.
Now, it's my turn again, and it becomes night. Naturalist immediately transforms into its nightbound side. I then cast a Harvesttide Infiltrator, and it does enter the battlefield on its nightbound side!
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Progenitus has a static ability with a replacement effect ("if X would happen, Y happens instead"). It applies at the moment Progenitus would be put on the graveyard: it goes to the library instead. This means Progenitus is not, at any point, actually on the graveyard. So it was not a creature card that was "put into a graveyard this way" for Selection.
Kozilek, on the other hand, has a regular triggered ability that uses the stack ("when X happens, Y also happens"). This means Kozilek first do goes onto the graveyard, then its ability triggers. The ability can't even be put on the stack while Necromantic Selection is still resolving, so Kozilek is still on the graveyard and can be selected and returned to the battlefield. The player still gets to shuffle whatever else is on their graveyard when the ability resolves later, though.
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Beth can't cast Cyclonic Rift overloaded.
It does not.
Oveloaded Cyclonic Rift is still a Mana Value 2 spell.
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A creature that is put on the battlefield attacking is attacking, but it never attacked. You can't activate Boast abilities of creatures Alesha put on the battlefield.
Reference: Kaldheim release notes
If a creature with a boast ability is put onto the battlefield attacking, it was never declared as an attacker. Its boast ability can't be activated that turn.
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It is not part of your deck,
400.11. An object is outside the game if it isn't in any of the game's zones. Outside the game is not a zone.
400.11a. Cards in a player's sideboard are outside the game. See rule 100.4.
400.11b. Some effects bring cards into a game from outside of it. Those cards remain in the game until it ends.
Once the game ends, Kaheera is not part of the game anymore. The actions your performed during that game, such as bringing cards from outside the game to it, don't carry over to the second game.
While not playing a game, what you have is a list of cards that form your deck, and another list of cards that form your sideboard (including Kaheera). But as you are between games in a match, you can use the sideboard to modify the deck, so you may put Kaheera in your deck if you want to.
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Mimic Vat's activated ability sets up a delayed triggered ability that triggers at the beginning of the next end step after the activated ability has resolved. It does use the stack.
So, when the end step begins, the delayed trigger to exile the Trynn-copy, and Trynn-copy's own token-creating ability, both trigger. You can put them on the stack in any order you want. You can also activate Silvar's ability in response to those triggers, sacrificing Trynn.
No matter the order they resolve, all abilities will resolve. Even if Trynn has been exiled or sacrificed, her ability is already on the stack, so the 1/1 token is still created.
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This isn't true for keyword abilities. Multiple keywords in a single line are still multiple separated abilities, not a single one.
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Each instance of Cascade is a separated object on the stack. When one resolves and casts a card that also has Cascade, this new instance of Cascade goes on the stack above the 8 CMC spell and the remaining original Apex Devastatpr cascades.