hate reviving dead topics, but i was wondering when Alex's ban was lifted, funny to see this. I mean Alex is a good friend of mine and all, but God damn is that not funny. Don't worry, he taught me the basics. I still manage to lose because unlike most other pros, I do not cheat.
I've played oath for like7-8 years.
your dudes should be good enough to not need haste. Also, you are running to many dudes.
crop rotation is unnecessary, and you'll occasionally get blown out because it is countered. your already running 6 off color sources, you don't need to fetch for white. 1-0 forests main is max. this isn't the kind of deck that wants to run bargain or twister. idilic tutor is cute and all but too expensive and its white. Your putting yourself in the "i tapped out and killed my self" possition a lot. I wouldn't play mystical tutor before vampiric tutor. Enlightened tutor is kinda meh for a 2 of. your definitely running too many - CA tutors. ancestral, drain, brainstorm, and fow alone are enough to justify merchant scroll.
Saying oath has to be out turn two is flat wrong you play the control game at them
Wow 8 years is quiet a while.
I dropped my creatures back down to three. I see your point when you talk about too many guys. I was testing the current version on Cockatrice. I kept getting Sphinx of the Steel Wind w/o Bargain TOO often. So I dropped Sphinx and Yawgmoth's Bargain for two Mind Sculptures as they'll give me more Brainstorming.
I also dropped my Underground Sea, Savannah and Plateau for another Island, Forest & Tropical Island. I know Ghost Quarters is still played in Vintage so I can grab me more land.
Timetwister is in namely because: I already HAVE a Timetwister. Why not use it if I already own one? But I can see why it's niche is hard to find as it COULD give my opponent some Force of Wills and as mine or side decked, I can understand TW's removal.
What's CA Tutor?
With your advice, I changed up the deck. Did I do better or did I do worst? I'm in the process of getting the lower cost cards, I just don't want to say buy a bunch of Enlightens but end up getting talked down to using one or two or shelling out for Mana Drains as they're NOT Legacy legal. So I do better this time or did I do worst?
Man that sucks. I'm able to test out my decks and I find out first that I didn't install Arabian Knights, NOW I got this? Is there any OTHER free program I can use?
So I want to make a fun deck for Vintage and I always did enjoy Forbidden Oath. I was talking with some people and I have a VAGUE (key word) idea of what it should look like that I make. I was thinking something like...
I haven't really thought about what should go in a side deck, as I want to get a main deck down first before I start thinking of something else. I was wondering if I could get some help on my first vintage deck. Thanks ya'll.
Edit 1: Made SOME of a side deck, it's NOT fantastic. I know it needs a lot of work.
Edit 2: Someone else made a good point. I forgot about Ghost Quarter. Added 2 basic lands over City of Bass and dropped Jace, the Mind Sculpture for Vampiric Tutor.
Edit 3: Thanks to MamaGrizzlyBear for the advice. I changed up the deck over all, removed MOST of the white and black and added more blue.
Edit 4: I CAN NOT BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT TIME WALK! I still need help with the side deck, but i want to concentrate on the Main Deck first. I have Strip Mine in for other Oath Decks and Tolarian Academy.
I'm thinking about Merchant Scroll/Mystic Tutor but I'm NOT sure if those would slow down the deck or speed it up.
Wow 8 years is quiet a while.
I dropped my creatures back down to three. I see your point when you talk about too many guys. I was testing the current version on Cockatrice. I kept getting Sphinx of the Steel Wind w/o Bargain TOO often. So I dropped Sphinx and Yawgmoth's Bargain for two Mind Sculptures as they'll give me more Brainstorming.
I also dropped my Underground Sea, Savannah and Plateau for another Island, Forest & Tropical Island. I know Ghost Quarters is still played in Vintage so I can grab me more land.
Timetwister is in namely because: I already HAVE a Timetwister. Why not use it if I already own one? But I can see why it's niche is hard to find as it COULD give my opponent some Force of Wills and as mine or side decked, I can understand TW's removal.
What's CA Tutor?
With your advice, I changed up the deck. Did I do better or did I do worst? I'm in the process of getting the lower cost cards, I just don't want to say buy a bunch of Enlightens but end up getting talked down to using one or two or shelling out for Mana Drains as they're NOT Legacy legal. So I do better this time or did I do worst?
1x Blightsteel Collosus
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
Instant 14
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Brainstorm
1x Crop Rotation
1x Vampiric Tutor
2x Enlightened Tutor
4x Force of Will
4x Spell Pierce
Sorceries 8
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Gaea's Blessing
1x Ponder
1x Preordain
1x Time Walk
1x Timetwister
1x Tinker
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Black Lotus
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Time Vault
1x Voltaic Key
Enchantments 6
1x Concordant Crossroad
1x Dragon's Breath
4x Oath of Druids
Planeswalker 3
1x Tezzeret the Seeker
2x Jace, the Mind Sculpture
Lands 16
1x Stripmine
1x Tolarian Academy
2x Forest
2x Island
2x Tropical Island
4x Misty Rainforest
4x Forbidden Orchard
1x Iona, the Shield of Emeria
1x It That Betrays
1x Island Sanctuary
1x Progenitus
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
2x Hunting Grounds
4x Surgical Extraction
4x Mana Drain
I haven't really thought about what should go in a side deck, as I want to get a main deck down first before I start thinking of something else. I was wondering if I could get some help on my first vintage deck. Thanks ya'll.
Edit 1: Made SOME of a side deck, it's NOT fantastic. I know it needs a lot of work.
Edit 2: Someone else made a good point. I forgot about Ghost Quarter. Added 2 basic lands over City of Bass and dropped Jace, the Mind Sculpture for Vampiric Tutor.
Edit 3: Thanks to MamaGrizzlyBear for the advice. I changed up the deck over all, removed MOST of the white and black and added more blue.
Edit 4: I CAN NOT BELIEVE I FORGOT ABOUT TIME WALK! I still need help with the side deck, but i want to concentrate on the Main Deck first. I have Strip Mine in for other Oath Decks and Tolarian Academy.