I don't necessarily think it was bad play. I just think it was jerk play to make in a casual game. If we were playing in some kind of tournament setting I would have no issue.
To answer your questions (just because they tell a story), they were ramping fine, my deck does ramp hard when it gets to green (I had a skyshroud claim in my hand). His deck wasn't slow (he had artifact ramp out). He'd never used trickbind that way. He usually holds grudges against everyone. I don't think he thought he was being a jerk. He just likes to troll people in geneeral. We play semi regularly.
Assuming that you play regularly with this guy, and he knows your deck ramps hard, then I think he made the correct play. Keeping someone off a color is in fact good threat assessment (especially when that color is the ramp enabler). Don't get me wrong I would be upset about it if it happened to me. But I wouldn't hesitate to do it to someone else. Over all it was a bit of a jerk move and it severally screwed up your game plan; however I think it was the correct play.
Playing Riku turn one: BOP
Turn 2: sol ring, collective voyage
Turn 3: Riku Lighting grieves
Turn four Time warp copied.
After that no one got a turn again.
Regrowth the time warp, two more turns
Ewit back the time warp two more turns
Time stretch copied 4 turns, Hit Kiki kept copying ewit bouncing time stretch
Table scoop.
It is a combo deck that is supposed to be fast, don't get me wrong. But that was the nut draw followed by boss topdecks.
A block could not occur. Assuming you control a land, which you would need to flash in the viper. He has island walk and all your lands are islands so so no blocks
Braids, Cabal Minion My favorite creature ever!. She keeps the board clear and is just mean.
tooth and nail Nothing says oops I win better Except for maybe.....
Time stretch Have had the whole table scoop upon resolution.
Sun titan Welcome to value town. Such a great ETB effect, infinite combos, replaying fetch lands, he dose it all.
Wheel of Fortune Again value. Dump your hand, draw seven make your opponents discard the hand they have been sculpting.
Damnation It is a black wrath of god people. My favorite card ever printed.
Mulldrifter Value, evoking, blinking, copying, on a relevant flying body.
Sphinx of Uthuun How do you make fact or fiction better?
Step 1: Put it on a huge flyer as an ETB effect
Step 2: ???????
Step 3: Profit
Woodfall Primus Whats better then killing one annoying permanent, Killing two. Also plays well with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and a sac outlet.
Entomb Basically a 1CMC instant speed demonic tutor. Except it hits the yard. But you are playing black you want stuff there anyway. There is not much better then a turn one entomb to turn two reanimate (Insert nasty creature here)
I played Braids for years. The best way I found to abuse her was with steal spells. I ran almost every ones I could get my hands on. Then ran things like baby jace, prosperity, and howling mine, to ensure oppenets hands were kept stocked full of bombs. : )
Also no Ixidron He is amazing when the board gets to far out of hand, and acts a pseudo tuck when peoples generals are on board.
Reins of Power was also a house and was usually good for killing one opponent.
I do proxy high money cards I own. because some of them are in mint condition and I do not like to shuffle them. I am a card riffeler when cards are in my hands, so I'm always thumbing through them. And I simply do not want the wear on them. (I know I can double sleeve but that is a pain in the *** and is a discussion for a diffrent thread) Also I lend my decks out sometimes, and watching people shuffle them sometimes makes me cringe. These would include things like mana drain and moat. I make nice color proxies of them and keep the real cards safe in a box next to me while I play.
No one seems to mind this. Now would I do this for cards I do not own. No I would not. Would I love to own an imperial requiter for my Riku deck. Of course I would, but I wouldn't proxy it up. I also wouldn't judge someone for doing it in EDH.
Yes and no. Mostly no. I thought I have been completely. satisfied with a deck. Then find my self tuning, adding, subtracting, changing themes, ect.
My Damia deck is a perfect example. It started out as bug control. I was super happy with the build. Then it morphed into an all in graveyard, deck. I was happy. Now it has morphed into a deck that plays control, and wins through combo, while still abusing the yard. And I am still finding little things here and there. Like this week, someone put a challenge up to abuse hormad spawning bed. I already run all the cards, (except the bed) so I'm thinking about more tweaks.
The most complete deck I have is Riku. It has been a painstaking process, to get the deck to this point. I can't think of any real changes I would make. But they still keep printing new cards and I still keep finding ways to put new cards in. Even though each cut is painful to make at this point.
And in my progen 5 color good stuff-home of misfit legends, I leave 5 floating slots in the deck, that i rotate cards in and out to keep it feeling fresh.
This is a deck builders format, and I love deck building. So no never satisfied.
One more question you are only running 4 basic lands. Dose your deck simply fold to a turn 2 or 3 blood moon? Also why no entomb. I added it to my Damina deck and have never looked back. Also carful study is pretty good.
I understand rewind being free, until it gets countered. I would rather see rewind be forbid. Also run it in my list. Of course mine is more reanimateor based. With an online Damia the discarding isn't really a draw back.
I love arcane denial, I get that it provides ca to your opponent. But two mana 1u for a hard counter is so solid. I'm guessing FoW and mana drain are not options? My real problem is Damia is a dump your had general. So four open mana is a lot to leave open for a counter. I think spell crumple is better.
My real problem is that I hate 4 cmc counter spells
A few things jump out at me about this list. First it is the definition of bug good stuff. Not that there is anything wrong with GS decks. Secondly I don't see a point in playing hypnotic Spector in group edh. I would rather see that be necropotence or sac elder. I'm not a huge fan of rewind here. I would rather see that be arcane denial. In three color, (I know you have an outstanding mana base) the difference between 1u and 2uu is huge. Leaving two mana open is much les of a tell, then four. Of course I would rather it be mana drain, but I feel like a jerk recommending a high money card. But this is not a budget deck.
Your only running 3 dedicated reanimation spells, with all the draw discard spells you run I feel that is not enough.
Ramp is good, and I notice a lack of it.
What is bitter blossom doing for you? I don't see a lot of ways your gaining advantage from the tokens. Of course bb is amazing I would rather it be more ramp
Other then that it looks like a good Damina controol build.
(Disclaimer~ I may or may not have tried this and be biased, and it may or many not have been a little under-powered for my group. Also it may or may not have been ridiculously fun and got me some goofy ass plays before I may or may not have taken it down):
Now you have a sweet bursty storm deck with complicated interactions, short explosive and varied turns, that consistently empties and refills its hand as you try to get your janky 3/1 johnny armies going.
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Alternatively I challenge you to make your group fear the power of homarid spawning bed. I have no idea how you care to do it, only that the card is due for some serious loving, and it might take a spike and a johnny in an underdeveloped meta to make it so!
Challenge accepted!
The spawning bed has potential to be broken. If it was black or green it would see legacy play. If it made merfolk tokens it would see legacy play.
I can see it being played in UBX stax control deck. As the center peice of a deck, I think it falls short but, it has a lot of potential. I'm wondering if you can set up some kind of weird recur loop with it. Involving ashnonds alter, Syphinx of uthin, and nim death mantel. You would have to find some way to make blue mana.
SO use Phyrexian Altar. With the deathmantel attached to the syphinx, pay 3 for the spawning bed activation, make 7 tokens, sack 4 to equip death mantel, and the other three floating to sack again, getting infinite fact or fictions, and any blue creature that costs 8 or more makes infinite mana and infinite tokens. And that is just off the top of my head. With Filigree angle it is infinite life, and infinite tokens. Sadly I think there are easier ways to do the above mentioned things, but yeah if I sat and played around with it. I am sure I could find some even more busted things to do.
Assuming that you play regularly with this guy, and he knows your deck ramps hard, then I think he made the correct play. Keeping someone off a color is in fact good threat assessment (especially when that color is the ramp enabler). Don't get me wrong I would be upset about it if it happened to me. But I wouldn't hesitate to do it to someone else. Over all it was a bit of a jerk move and it severally screwed up your game plan; however I think it was the correct play.
Turn 2: sol ring, collective voyage
Turn 3: Riku Lighting grieves
Turn four Time warp copied.
After that no one got a turn again.
Regrowth the time warp, two more turns
Ewit back the time warp two more turns
Time stretch copied 4 turns, Hit Kiki kept copying ewit bouncing time stretch
Table scoop.
It is a combo deck that is supposed to be fast, don't get me wrong. But that was the nut draw followed by boss topdecks.
A block could not occur. Assuming you control a land, which you would need to flash in the viper. He has island walk and all your lands are islands so so no blocks
tooth and nail Nothing says oops I win better Except for maybe.....
Time stretch Have had the whole table scoop upon resolution.
Sun titan Welcome to value town. Such a great ETB effect, infinite combos, replaying fetch lands, he dose it all.
Wheel of Fortune Again value. Dump your hand, draw seven make your opponents discard the hand they have been sculpting.
Damnation It is a black wrath of god people. My favorite card ever printed.
Mulldrifter Value, evoking, blinking, copying, on a relevant flying body.
Sphinx of Uthuun How do you make fact or fiction better?
Step 1: Put it on a huge flyer as an ETB effect
Step 2: ???????
Step 3: Profit
Woodfall Primus Whats better then killing one annoying permanent, Killing two. Also plays well with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and a sac outlet.
Entomb Basically a 1CMC instant speed demonic tutor. Except it hits the yard. But you are playing black you want stuff there anyway. There is not much better then a turn one entomb to turn two reanimate (Insert nasty creature here)
is a house in my five color deck
Also no Ixidron He is amazing when the board gets to far out of hand, and acts a pseudo tuck when peoples generals are on board.
Reins of Power was also a house and was usually good for killing one opponent.
No one seems to mind this. Now would I do this for cards I do not own. No I would not. Would I love to own an imperial requiter for my Riku deck. Of course I would, but I wouldn't proxy it up. I also wouldn't judge someone for doing it in EDH.
My Damia deck is a perfect example. It started out as bug control. I was super happy with the build. Then it morphed into an all in graveyard, deck. I was happy. Now it has morphed into a deck that plays control, and wins through combo, while still abusing the yard. And I am still finding little things here and there. Like this week, someone put a challenge up to abuse hormad spawning bed. I already run all the cards, (except the bed) so I'm thinking about more tweaks.
The most complete deck I have is Riku. It has been a painstaking process, to get the deck to this point. I can't think of any real changes I would make. But they still keep printing new cards and I still keep finding ways to put new cards in. Even though each cut is painful to make at this point.
And in my progen 5 color good stuff-home of misfit legends, I leave 5 floating slots in the deck, that i rotate cards in and out to keep it feeling fresh.
This is a deck builders format, and I love deck building. So no never satisfied.
I understand rewind being free, until it gets countered. I would rather see rewind be forbid. Also run it in my list. Of course mine is more reanimateor based. With an online Damia the discarding isn't really a draw back.
I love arcane denial, I get that it provides ca to your opponent. But two mana 1u for a hard counter is so solid. I'm guessing FoW and mana drain are not options? My real problem is Damia is a dump your had general. So four open mana is a lot to leave open for a counter. I think spell crumple is better.
My real problem is that I hate 4 cmc counter spells
Mox
Your only running 3 dedicated reanimation spells, with all the draw discard spells you run I feel that is not enough.
Ramp is good, and I notice a lack of it.
What is bitter blossom doing for you? I don't see a lot of ways your gaining advantage from the tokens. Of course bb is amazing I would rather it be more ramp
Other then that it looks like a good Damina controol build.
Happy building
Mox
Challenge accepted!
The spawning bed has potential to be broken. If it was black or green it would see legacy play. If it made merfolk tokens it would see legacy play.
I can see it being played in UBX stax control deck. As the center peice of a deck, I think it falls short but, it has a lot of potential. I'm wondering if you can set up some kind of weird recur loop with it. Involving ashnonds alter, Syphinx of uthin, and nim death mantel. You would have to find some way to make blue mana.
SO use Phyrexian Altar. With the deathmantel attached to the syphinx, pay 3 for the spawning bed activation, make 7 tokens, sack 4 to equip death mantel, and the other three floating to sack again, getting infinite fact or fictions, and any blue creature that costs 8 or more makes infinite mana and infinite tokens. And that is just off the top of my head. With Filigree angle it is infinite life, and infinite tokens. Sadly I think there are easier ways to do the above mentioned things, but yeah if I sat and played around with it. I am sure I could find some even more busted things to do.