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I would take the scourges out, and possibly relic as well. Scourge is only good against Grixis Control from that list, so maybe you could move it to the sideboard if you really wanted to keep it. You definitely want a 4th Anger of the Gods and 4th Blood Moon. I might even get a 4th Simian spirit guide, since turn2 bloodmoon just destroys nearly half the decks. You could even go up to 5 sweepers. And go up to 4 Skreds, there are tons of creatures in your meta.

You can even consider a couple of Ensnaring Bridge

Not just Skred. Red is general is a color that goes out of its way to avoid touching enchantment (Decree of annihilation, Obliterate)


If it becomes a real, persisting problem you might consider Ugin in the side to exile their entire face


I said this on discord already, but I'm going to put Godo back in the deck with Helm of the Hosts when it drops. 1 card infinite pls.

No way gr tron is close to 40:60. Maybe before ulamog and world breaker. There are like 5 GR tron players at my local, and so i prettu much play against it every week. Shok, Pie and a whole bunch of other mtgo grinders report a 25-30% winrate against the deck.

Its true that Merfolk arent as bad as it used to be, but its still unfavorable. I haven't played against it in a long time, but dismembers, and spatials did improve the matchup by a lot.

Dredge is the same as affinity, and burn. Very coinflippy and there so many variables that are out of your control.


My point is that the deck gets gatekept by a lot of decks that aren't that uncommon.

p.s
The deck can also have outside the game issues that don't make it GP friendly such as going to time, opponent slow rolling, not scooping to slaverlock, fatigue due to long games with not much time between rounds, etc

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Or, does it seem like the deck is inconsistent because we have anecdotal evidence coming from an overly verbal and inexperienced base of players?

Take this with a pinch of sugar, but this statement sums up the last 20 pages or so perfectly. The platinum angel argument is good proof of ancedotal evidence. The deck is incredibly consistent, bad hands and draws happen to every deck. Burn dies brutally when it floods or gets mana screwed, but it's still one of the most consistent decks.

Sometimes you must take a step back in order to take two forward, but some of the advice popping up are detrimental to the deck and the big grinders either aren't here anymore or are tires of repeating themselves over and over.

blood sun turns off Koth ultimate

fabricate doesnt leave a body and batterskull dies to kcommand, push, and isn't big enough to stop the formats big creatures like tasigur, angler, tks smasher and goyf

Somebody alter a shrine of burning rage into a Christmas tree and kill someone with it pls

guys we're the same tier as Jund now



we did it everybody

22 or 23 is correct if you're playing Mind stones and relics to help you dig in. If you're running 25 lands + mind stones, nearly half your deck is lands and that is definitely wrong. I don't even run 25 lands when im not running mana rocks. A reason why 22 might be "correct" right now might be because our manabase is less vulnerable now due to K-command not being as prevalent.

On Kevin Mackie: I wouldn't take advice about Skred from him, despite him winning a GP with it. His list is clearly adonis2k's list (There was no "standard" decklist at the time, nobody ran the same things) and is supposed to run 23 lands. Mackie ran one less for some reason and it seemed like he changed his mind afterwards. We watched his matches and he was clearly not experienced with the deck, taking sub-optimal lines and not knowing how some of his cards worked (Chandra, Scourge, etc). He didn't know how Ricochet trap worked against counterspells and sat there for 5 minutes trying to figure it out when his opponent called judge on him. His top8 matchups were extremely favorable. 5 of them being unlosable (3 Infect, Jeskai Control, and Dredge), one favored because of land destruction and blood moon (titanshift), and the grixis matchup which was also slightly favored. He also said in the interview that the deck was weak to control decks, but in reality we absolutely crushed those matchups (aside from blue tron).

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Yes, X is 0 but scry 2 is better than nothing and Repeal on a Chalice or token can be relevant. This mostly doesn't matter however as you will be hitting Spatial, Thirst, Supreme Will, Remand, ... almost always. Spell Burst cannot be bought back.

Spell Swindle seems unplayable in every way.

Spell Burst CAN be bought back because gearhulk's exile is not on resolution like flashback but a replacement effect for it hitting the graveyard.

I made Day 2 of GP Toronto with Skred!

I've been having some decent success on my local scene with the following list. I attended three FNMs in a range of 15-20 participants, and I went 2-2 (with bye), 5-0 and 3-0-1.



All in all, I get some free wins off of Blood Moon here and there, but I also win because opponents don't know what the deck does. I expect for my local meta to figure it out soon, but I wanted to point that this deck is really decent even without finding and/or landing a Blood Moon. The dragon package with Koth is too much for many a deck to handle as it dodges bolt and decay almost completely, and I had a few wins because of sb Batterskull sealing the deal, and 8/8 vigilance flying with lifelink is good, to say the least. Tron, Ad Naus and Burn are and will stay a bad match-up, but I'm lucky enough there is not much of the listed in my metagame. I may be in a Bolt, path and small creature heavy meta, so again, this could cloud my judgment, yet I believe this deck has some legs. I also used Boros Reckoners as a 2-of but changed it to a playset of Stormbreath Dragons, whom I used only two beforehand.

I'm playing this deck since early December (with minor tweaks like Simian Spirit Guides/Mind Stone, Reckoner/Dragons, Land/Sheets, three/four mb sweepers), attended four tournaments, and it posts a 84% match winrate (16-3) and 72% games winrate (33-13), albeit I have yet to face any tron (but did beat naya burn). My loses came to Ad Naus, Temur Twin, and a Rakdos Burn homebrew. I know it's a small sample, but it's way better than what I did with my previous modern decks (like goblins and various tempo decks). I have yet to try a version with Ugin or Wurmcoil tho, as well as the "lock" version. What do you guys think, is it a fluke, an unaware local meta, or am I just riding a hot streak? Also, any similar lists around? Feedback appreciated.

As someone who used to play UWR control in modern Dragonlord Dromoka isn't even close to good vs them, it just lets them trade 1 for 1 with you easily.


one path to exile and it leaves behind no value at all. it's decent for burn I guess but they also play paths post board, and unless your at 1 life you will rarely lose to burn after playing a titan, of course it has happened to me but yeah, i think dromoka is terribad. dies easily while leaving behind 0 value