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  • posted a message on By Gnome Means
    I am going to use this.

    To win with Blaze counters.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Maro Twitter - More or Less
    If you want to be decidedly unfun, and argue there is no six for Baron Von Count's doom counter... why are you playing an Un set?

    Otherwise most interactions just mean that the number on the spell being cast no longer matches the number on Baron Von Count so the effect would just fizzle that time and the Baron Von Count player would have to try again later.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Maro Twitter - More or Less
    See, I wanna just respond to The Countdown is at One with this, make the subgame start everyone on 0 life and see how the person playing this handles that result.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Buzzing Whack-A-Doodle
    Quote from void_nothing »
    Well that's hard to evaluate, isn't it?
    11/10 if you're running Baron Von Count
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The Countdown Is at One - Yet Another Sub Game card, ManaLeak Spoiler
    It'll be fun to cast this in a multiplayer game while you have Baron Von Count at 1.

    "Now the two of us shall play a little sub-game..."
    "But there are three of us."
    "Right, silly me, I forgot." -Destroys the person who spoke up- "Where was I? Oh yes, the two of us shall play a little sub-game..."
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The Countdown Is at One - Yet Another Sub Game card, ManaLeak Spoiler
    New goal in life: Overload Mizzix's Mastery with this card in the bin. We find out if the rest of my spells kill everyone after this quick subgame of doooooooooooooooooooooooom!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Magic: the Amateuring spoilers
    New goal in life: Give Party Crasher Vigilance.

    YOU GET ATTACKED, AND YOU GET ATTACKED, AND YOU GET ATTACKED!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Three more spoilers (Marshall Sutcliffe twitter)
    Quote from RED_NED »
    Quote from Rakath »
    unsets are in no way designed to really be gotten by casual magic players


    You are right that dice are less convenient than coins, but UN sets are marketed SPECIFICALLY at the casual crowd.
    Apologies, that phrasing didn't separate concepts as well as I'd liked. I was a bit agitated at the phrase '20 sided coin' like that's a thing and it meant I didn't proofread myself as well.

    I usually use casual to mean infrequent players and 'kitchen table' to mean noncompetitive players. The two groups generally overlap, but I specifically was talking about the former (who aren't the audience for the more detailed jokes in unsets) while leaving out the latter (who would get the jokes and also be less... Spikey about their gameplay). But a kitchen table player that isn't casual often does have the dice, coins, little colored stones as counters, etc that is a full kit of magic tomfoolery, and would be more ready to just whip out a randomized D20 than someone who just came with the money to draft and maybe some sleeves.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Three more spoilers (Marshall Sutcliffe twitter)
    Quote from doomfish »
    Quote from Tekkactus »
    Quote from doomfish »
    Coin flipping is a well established part of black border Magic. I don't see how die rolling is so super special silver border territory. Unsets are supposed to be about things black border can't do, not just about things it doesn't do. Lame.


    I guess Chicken à la King and Elvish Impersonators aren't Un-cards either.

    This spoiler season is going to give me agita.
    MaRo has often said that he made mistakes with the first unsets, things didn't always work out. Those two cards are 9 years old. For example, The Cheese Stands Alone lost its status as an Un-card because there was no reason for it not to exist in black border, as Barren Glory shows. If coin-flipping can be done in black border, but isn't done often, because it's not making for good gameplay, then why put twenty-sided coin flipping into an Unset? It's just lazy.
    Now, I know this might be confusing, but... there are these things, strange creatures, called 'casual magic players' who show up to play magic, with a deck and maybe a piece of paper to keep their lifetotal (but most likely just their phone).

    I know, crazy, right?

    They don't carry a vast array of D6 to D20 and a randomized D20 with them to play Magic. Which can, at the barest of minimums, be played with a deck of (Magic) cards and nothing else. It is infinitely more likely they have some spare change in their pocket on happenstance, than they tripped, fell, and found a lost randomized D20 on the ground on the way to the card shoppe.

    This. Is why. Dice. Are. Unset. Approved.

    Since unsets are in no way designed to really be gotten by casual magic players (kinda in the same vein that Masters sets aren't designed to be worth it for casual magic players) they can do things that require you to have a bit more supplies. And maybe Wizards also hopes that Ye Olde Local Game Shoppe will provide some dice for play in case they get some casuals too. But it can't be a standard (hah, get it!?) thing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Contraption (partial spoiler)
    Some mechanical designs in Unsets are just, from the ground up, not meant for black border. But there's always a few outlier cards that are just weird enough to work. Forecast is just Infernal Spawn of Evil in... a color that's less useful to making an unconfrontable game clock. They want Contraptions to fit into that space, technically capable at legality but only if they decide to (like Conspiracies, which all had to be instantly banned due to a MtG back on them).

    With that information Contraptions are probably in a DFC slot or the Adcard slot.

    ...I still want them to make Frankie Peanuts a black borderable Commander/Conspiracy card.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Contraption (partial spoiler)
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Do we know how common the full art lands will be? Are they going to be one per pack? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
    Not really on topic with Contraptions, but the only other thing on the land sheet is Steamflogger.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Contraption (partial spoiler)
    Flask icon feels like a modified version of the guildwatermarks. It puts it on theme with a specific group (I'm guessing GW's faction) but doesn't limit it to that faction.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Sword-Point Diplomacy
    So let's just go format by format on this one:

    Limited/Sealed/Draft: ...You got 1 card per 1 mana carddraw. You run with it. Unless you got super lucky and have better carddraw, even then you still might want this. Because there are always players that see a T5-T6 bomb flip over and go 'I want nothing to do with that' and bolt themselves when if they thought about it, they could just dome your face for two turns and keep you away from that play.

    Standard - Control: If you're in Blue you can do better. You might be able to do better in green or black too. So you probably don't need it.

    Standard - Midrange: ...That's probably a no from me. It does speed you up (a difference from browbeat) but I don't think any of the choices will be as equal.

    Standard - Aggro: See here's where you might want this. The important step up from Browbeat isn't the damage. Well, not just the damage. it's the advancement of your deck. Because you're moving past 3 more cards, and they're probably not going to turn lands into lightning bolts, you're speeding up your aggro build no matter what. Even if they choose the generally optimal 'you draw all three cards.' (Generally optimal because Aggro decks are going to mostly be less damage per card than bolt, occasionally equal damage.) You win more than you lose on playing this, but it still isn't a good card in any other deck or format.

    Speaking of...

    Modern: No.

    Vintage/Legacy: Gross bitter laughter.

    Commander/Highlander: Definitely no.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on A change to the balance of lands in standard?
    Probably a bunch of factors lead to this change-up. The two that jump to mind is that we have Shard identity tribes in Ix (and Nicy B in Hour) both lead to a stronger need for Allied Fixing (since 2 Allied feed into a Shard manabase better than enemy lands). Also the change to Large-Large-Large-Large Set releases will make printing lands a little easier. But the change hasn't taken root yet.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Driven 2 Despair via ArsTechnika
    The big problem with it is just being two colors, but four mana for 'completely twist the balance of the table' seems pretty effective.

    It isn't Overrun which wins games but even a handful of creature keywords on board and this thing is brutal. Especially in formats that lack instant speed answers to 2+ attackers.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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