Raystack helped me see that my deck was to far from the primers goals so I looked back and decided to retool it to fit it better and I actually went 3-1 last night.
A couple of notes. I don't have a playset of phyrexian obliterator yet but I plan on trying to pick some up when I find someone who has them or a shop near me that has them. (I bought the only one available.)
Round 1 Burn 2-0
Game 1 MVP - Obliterator (He couldn't kill it without destroying his board so he conceded)
Game 2 MVP - Wrench Mind (Played 2 back to back from turn 2 and 3 and then IoK him.)
Round 2 U/W control 2-1
Game 1 MVP - thoughtseize (took away 2 key counterspells But he had more wasn't able to cast my creatures)
Game 2 MVP - blood moon (Idk why he wasn't expecting blood moon but I took away his 2 counters turn 1 and 2 so unless he was able to top deck one he had no chance to counter my turn 3 blood moon. after this he pretty much gave up as drawing no basics means he has no plays)
Game 3 MVP - Rakdos return (He expected the blood moon this time fetching 3 basics off the get go. He was countering things left and right but I was able to land a turn 5 Olivia. After attacking on turn 6 I had no other plays as I only had a Rakdos's returns and 2 lands in hand and he only had 2 cards and plenty of mana open. At the end of my turn to my surprise he taps out for a sphinx's rev. My eyes light up like it was christmas morning. I let him draw his cards and game his life but at the beginning turn before untap I rakdos him for 4 negating the effects of sphinx. He plays a land and passes turn. He casts lingering souls at my attack phase I eat 2 of them with olivia and the other 2 double blocked me. He draws his card for turn looks up and extends the hand.)
Round 3 CoCo Elves 2-0
Game 1 MVP - Thoughtseize/inquisition (took away his early mana ramp)
Game 2 MVP - Bileblight (Killed his board and without his ezuri which I thoughtsiezed earlier)
Game 4 Infect 1-2
Game 1 MVP - Thoughtseize (Even with 2 thoughtsiezes he still killed me turn 3 with infect with using swiftspear and a bunch of phryexian spells and other stuff then top decks a tainted peak that I had no way of getting out of his hand.)
Game 2 MVP - Wrench Mind (again with multiple ways of turn 3 kills Its hard to fight this deck He had a Kiln fiend and swiftspear in hand along with a couple pump spells and lands. I took the kiln fiend because I didn't see any tainted peaks Turn 2 I Wrench mind him and pass. Turn 3 I play a bob for protection as I am already down to 13 from him pumping his swiftspear. At this point he has played 3 pump spells a creature and 2 lands I took 3 cards away from him so that leaves him with 2 cards that I do not know of. He passes turn to me. I get a land from bob and play a kologhan's command and attempt to kill swiftspear but he plays a spell to pump her but that also leaves him with no cards in hand as I make him discard his last card. I pass to him. He draws his card looks at it with discontent and passes the turn. I attempt to bolt his swiftspear he lets it resolve and I swing for 2. The rest of the game was me beating him with bob while destroying his hand. Eventually he concedes and we go to game 3.)
Game 3 MVP - Inquisition (He mulligans to 6 plays a swiftspear hits me for 1. I Inquisition him seeing that his hand is 4 pump spells I take the titan strength praying he doesn't get a tainted peak he top decks a land plays it and passes. At this point maybe I think I am in the clear so I play thoughtsieze into bob. I take away a bolt. He draws plays a land and passes again. I'm all out of discard at this point but I draw an olivia off bob take 4 go to 15 play the olivia and pass turn. At this point I think I have the game but he has been keeping his cards the past 2 turns and not playing anything. He draws goes to attack I double block to be safe. He plays temur battle rage muta growth titans strength the first strike kills both my guys and he deals 9 to my face... Good news is he has no cards left... Bad news is I have no creatures left I draw into land pass. He draws into a titans strength hits me for 5 I'm down to 1.... I draw and concede....)
None of those games did I ever see a Lilly which says that I want 1 more. I need to get at least 1 more Obliterator to see it more often but no one here has one for trade or for sale. Hyper aggro seems to be my downfall as they just tap out and play their hand and even if I do make them discard their top decks are usually gold to them. I'm still pretty new to the modern format only a couple months in so hopefully I can get a little better on this. I really like rakdos's return for late game matches against control. They don't see it coming and if you catch them off guard they could end up losing their whole hand.
I have only play tested the deck a few times about 75% of which were without the inquisitions. The other 25% of the time I have a 100% win record (again only a few games) I will hopefully post more results after this weekend as I need to get ready for a modern PPTQ next Saturday.
Played a few games this weekend Going to do some more testing tonight will report again but I figured I'd give an update.
Round 1 - G/R Tron 2-0
Game 1
I kept what I thought was a god hand. 1 Thoughtseize 1 Inquisition 1 pack rat 1 Dark Confidant and 3 lands. Turn 1 I snatched his turn 1 play away so all he was able to do is land and pass. Turn 2 I played a Blood Crypt tapped and took away his ability to search for a land. After this i was setup to play dark confidant and control the game. He got Tron online turn 4 and Eye of Ugin turn 5 so he was able to start searching for answers but I was easily able to deal with Wurmcoil before it became an issue. My biggest problem was Oblivion stone as I had little artifact hate. However I was able to kill him before he cast his Karn.
Game 2
I side boarded in both blood moons and a Kologhan’s command taking out Lavamancer a lilly and Olivia. I have blood moon in opening hand with basic swamp a fetch. I figure by turn 3 I'll have my 3rd land. Turn 1 I thoughtsieze to make sure he has no enchantment hate. I see he has his only basic in his hand which makes me sad but it should still be fine. Turn 2 I play Dark Confidant to further my chances of getting a land. Turn 3 I get pinged for 3 getting a lilly and then draw into a land. I decide that playing the lilly first is better and wait till turn 4 to play the blood moon. At this point I am killing him with 2 damage each turn with dark confidant eventually getting pack rat which he concedes to finding that he has no way of stopping me from creating a rat each turn.
Round 2 - Some sort of CoCo Junk (Abzan for newer people) build 0-2
Game 1
I keep a 2 land hand but don't see another land till turn 5 at this point He has the game on lock.
Game 2
I keep an okay hand with 3 lands Thoughtseize away a kitchen finks but he proceeds to top deck like a champ bringing threat after threat. I Anger of the gods his board on turn 5 and play a rat and pass. He kills my rat and plays a rhino. Next 2 turns I draw land with little to no threats in hand.
Round 3 - Bye
I love this deck but it has a lot of work to do yet. I am thinking of adding beat sticks but not sure which one.
I have only play tested the deck a few times about 75% of which were without the inquisitions. The other 25% of the time I have a 100% win record (again only a few games) I will hopefully post more results after this weekend as I need to get ready for a modern PPTQ next Saturday.
Ah, so you took my luck. I opened my box last night, hoping to just pull average. Bitterblossom, Kozilek, Prime time. Meh. But the slap in the face was the one booster that just straight up didn't have a rare or better. 10 commons, 3 uncommons, 1 foil common. >:(
Yeah I had a pack like this but it had 4 uncommons (the one in the rare slot had a remand) but the foil was a crap rare
I can't understand why any modern players are upset. I mean these are free cards. All you need to do is spend a few hundred bucks on standard cards, maybe a few dozen hours playtesting, and you next couple of Friday nights, and whoila. Free modern staples. I can't believe wizards is so supportive of the modern community.
Or you can tell your LGS that you want modern FNM...
It's really hard to justify spending $35 (CDN) per draft to be pulling janky rares like Ant Queen when I was only spending $25 (CDN) per draft of MM1 to pull janky rares like Greater Gargadon. Especially when the prize support for the drafts at my LCS will only be 1 pack of MM2 per player as opposed to standard drafts that either have 1.5 or 2 packs per player. Hell, even the prize payout for MM1 was better than 1 pack per entrant.
So as a side note, I've got 4 boxes incoming from my LCS, and though there are loads of cards I do need for modern (I'm new to the format) I'm leery to open them...I know most of the mythics have solid value, but with my luck I'll pull a pair of Comet Storms per box lol!
The odds of getting that many comet storms is very very low. With 4 boxes (basically a case for this set) you should get some money cards and I think you would at least have a high chance at getting a tarmo... I have 2 boxes coming and I really don't want to open them now but I like opening packs.... I am very conflicted with this set due to the chance of only pulling $100 in cards from a 240 box...
Not overly attached to any card. I like the general theme of the deck (Sacrifice their board and win Mid to late game.
Cards I have been considering heavily are
Liliana, heretical Healer
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
4 Fleshbag marauder
3 Merciless Executioner
4 Catacomb Sifter
2 Bearer of silence
4 Elvish Visionary
Instant/Sorcery
1 murderous Cut
1 crux of fate
3 grasp of darkness
2 ruinous path
2 languish
3 read the bones
3 evolutionary Leap
Planeswalker
2 Ob Nixilis Reignited
Lands
4 Llanowar Wastes
4 Jungle Hollow
4 hissing Quagmire
1 evolving wild
6 swamp
4 forest
1 waste
3 Duress
1 Palace Siege
3 Flaying Tendrils
1 Feed the clan
2 Self-Inflicted Wound
3 Ultimate Price
A couple of notes. I don't have a playset of phyrexian obliterator yet but I plan on trying to pick some up when I find someone who has them or a shop near me that has them. (I bought the only one available.)
2 Dark confidant
2 Olivia Voldaren
2 phyrexian obliterator
Planeswalkers (3)
3 Liliana of the veil
Instant/Sorcery (28)
2 Blightning
3 Wrench Mind
3 Kologhan’s command
4 Thought seize
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Relic of progenitus
4 Lightning bolt
2 slaughter pact
2 terminate
1 Dread bore
1 Sword of light and shadow
6 Swamp
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
3 Blood Crypt
2 Dragonskull summit
1 Graven Cairns
2 Lavaclaw reaches
4 Bloodstained mire
2 Slaughter Games
2 Bile Blight
1 Blightning
4 blood moon
1 Kologhan’s command
1 dreadbore
1 shatterstorm
2 Combust
1 Rakdos returns
Round 1 Burn 2-0
Game 1 MVP - Obliterator (He couldn't kill it without destroying his board so he conceded)
Game 2 MVP - Wrench Mind (Played 2 back to back from turn 2 and 3 and then IoK him.)
Round 2 U/W control 2-1
Game 1 MVP - thoughtseize (took away 2 key counterspells But he had more wasn't able to cast my creatures)
Game 2 MVP - blood moon (Idk why he wasn't expecting blood moon but I took away his 2 counters turn 1 and 2 so unless he was able to top deck one he had no chance to counter my turn 3 blood moon. after this he pretty much gave up as drawing no basics means he has no plays)
Game 3 MVP - Rakdos return (He expected the blood moon this time fetching 3 basics off the get go. He was countering things left and right but I was able to land a turn 5 Olivia. After attacking on turn 6 I had no other plays as I only had a Rakdos's returns and 2 lands in hand and he only had 2 cards and plenty of mana open. At the end of my turn to my surprise he taps out for a sphinx's rev. My eyes light up like it was christmas morning. I let him draw his cards and game his life but at the beginning turn before untap I rakdos him for 4 negating the effects of sphinx. He plays a land and passes turn. He casts lingering souls at my attack phase I eat 2 of them with olivia and the other 2 double blocked me. He draws his card for turn looks up and extends the hand.)
Round 3 CoCo Elves 2-0
Game 1 MVP - Thoughtseize/inquisition (took away his early mana ramp)
Game 2 MVP - Bileblight (Killed his board and without his ezuri which I thoughtsiezed earlier)
Game 4 Infect 1-2
Game 1 MVP - Thoughtseize (Even with 2 thoughtsiezes he still killed me turn 3 with infect with using swiftspear and a bunch of phryexian spells and other stuff then top decks a tainted peak that I had no way of getting out of his hand.)
Game 2 MVP - Wrench Mind (again with multiple ways of turn 3 kills Its hard to fight this deck He had a Kiln fiend and swiftspear in hand along with a couple pump spells and lands. I took the kiln fiend because I didn't see any tainted peaks Turn 2 I Wrench mind him and pass. Turn 3 I play a bob for protection as I am already down to 13 from him pumping his swiftspear. At this point he has played 3 pump spells a creature and 2 lands I took 3 cards away from him so that leaves him with 2 cards that I do not know of. He passes turn to me. I get a land from bob and play a kologhan's command and attempt to kill swiftspear but he plays a spell to pump her but that also leaves him with no cards in hand as I make him discard his last card. I pass to him. He draws his card looks at it with discontent and passes the turn. I attempt to bolt his swiftspear he lets it resolve and I swing for 2. The rest of the game was me beating him with bob while destroying his hand. Eventually he concedes and we go to game 3.)
Game 3 MVP - Inquisition (He mulligans to 6 plays a swiftspear hits me for 1. I Inquisition him seeing that his hand is 4 pump spells I take the titan strength praying he doesn't get a tainted peak he top decks a land plays it and passes. At this point maybe I think I am in the clear so I play thoughtsieze into bob. I take away a bolt. He draws plays a land and passes again. I'm all out of discard at this point but I draw an olivia off bob take 4 go to 15 play the olivia and pass turn. At this point I think I have the game but he has been keeping his cards the past 2 turns and not playing anything. He draws goes to attack I double block to be safe. He plays temur battle rage muta growth titans strength the first strike kills both my guys and he deals 9 to my face... Good news is he has no cards left... Bad news is I have no creatures left I draw into land pass. He draws into a titans strength hits me for 5 I'm down to 1.... I draw and concede....)
None of those games did I ever see a Lilly which says that I want 1 more. I need to get at least 1 more Obliterator to see it more often but no one here has one for trade or for sale. Hyper aggro seems to be my downfall as they just tap out and play their hand and even if I do make them discard their top decks are usually gold to them. I'm still pretty new to the modern format only a couple months in so hopefully I can get a little better on this. I really like rakdos's return for late game matches against control. They don't see it coming and if you catch them off guard they could end up losing their whole hand.
Played a few games this weekend Going to do some more testing tonight will report again but I figured I'd give an update.
Round 1 - G/R Tron 2-0
Game 1
I kept what I thought was a god hand. 1 Thoughtseize 1 Inquisition 1 pack rat 1 Dark Confidant and 3 lands. Turn 1 I snatched his turn 1 play away so all he was able to do is land and pass. Turn 2 I played a Blood Crypt tapped and took away his ability to search for a land. After this i was setup to play dark confidant and control the game. He got Tron online turn 4 and Eye of Ugin turn 5 so he was able to start searching for answers but I was easily able to deal with Wurmcoil before it became an issue. My biggest problem was Oblivion stone as I had little artifact hate. However I was able to kill him before he cast his Karn.
Game 2
I side boarded in both blood moons and a Kologhan’s command taking out Lavamancer a lilly and Olivia. I have blood moon in opening hand with basic swamp a fetch. I figure by turn 3 I'll have my 3rd land. Turn 1 I thoughtsieze to make sure he has no enchantment hate. I see he has his only basic in his hand which makes me sad but it should still be fine. Turn 2 I play Dark Confidant to further my chances of getting a land. Turn 3 I get pinged for 3 getting a lilly and then draw into a land. I decide that playing the lilly first is better and wait till turn 4 to play the blood moon. At this point I am killing him with 2 damage each turn with dark confidant eventually getting pack rat which he concedes to finding that he has no way of stopping me from creating a rat each turn.
Round 2 - Some sort of CoCo Junk (Abzan for newer people) build 0-2
Game 1
I keep a 2 land hand but don't see another land till turn 5 at this point He has the game on lock.
Game 2
I keep an okay hand with 3 lands Thoughtseize away a kitchen finks but he proceeds to top deck like a champ bringing threat after threat. I Anger of the gods his board on turn 5 and play a rat and pass. He kills my rat and plays a rhino. Next 2 turns I draw land with little to no threats in hand.
Round 3 - Bye
I love this deck but it has a lot of work to do yet. I am thinking of adding beat sticks but not sure which one.
I got most of the idea from a starcity article but added some things of my own.
2 Dark confidant
4 pack rat
2 prophetic flamespeaker
1 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Grim lavamancer
1 Olivia Voldaren
1 Chandra Pyromancer
3 Liliana of the veil
2 Kologhan’s command
4 Thought seize
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Relic of progenitus
4 Lightning bolt
2 slaughter pact
2 terminate
1 Dread bore
1 Sword of light and shadow
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
3 Blood Crypt
1 Dragonskull summit
1 Graven Cairns
2 Lavaclaw reaches
4 Bloodstained mire
2 polluted delta
2 mutavault
2 Anger of the gods
2 Blightning
2 blood moon
1 Kologhan’s command
1 Chandra Pyromancer
1 Olivia Voldaren
1 dreadbore
2 Vampire Nighthawk
1 shatterstorm
2 Combust
I have only play tested the deck a few times about 75% of which were without the inquisitions. The other 25% of the time I have a 100% win record (again only a few games) I will hopefully post more results after this weekend as I need to get ready for a modern PPTQ next Saturday.
So if the 2 must use cards are lilly and snappy what lists work with those?
I guess I should of worded it as "what deck fits these cards" but thank you for being that guy
Is there a midrange deck that uses these 3 cards or should I go control? If so what colors are best for these 3 cards?
Just coming off playing storm didn't really like playing Solitaire.
Yeah I had a pack like this but it had 4 uncommons (the one in the rare slot had a remand) but the foil was a crap rare
Or you can tell your LGS that you want modern FNM...
We do modern at least twice a month...
I just wanted to get into modern and play something other than storm...
The odds of getting that many comet storms is very very low. With 4 boxes (basically a case for this set) you should get some money cards and I think you would at least have a high chance at getting a tarmo... I have 2 boxes coming and I really don't want to open them now but I like opening packs.... I am very conflicted with this set due to the chance of only pulling $100 in cards from a 240 box...
Yeah but you get at least 80% of what you paid for back and its fun..
Sure this will be fun but you could end up with Less then $100 in cards at an MSRP of 239.99 thats less than 50%